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Old April 11th, 2007, 09:57 AM
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There's an article being discussed over on another cruise board stating that NCLA is temporarily re-assigning the Pride of Hawaii to the regular NCL line and will be positioning the ship in Europe for the summer of 2008.

That will leave only two NCL/NCLA ships operating in Hawaii -- the Pride of Aloha and Pride of America. They're offering a $50 OBC for rebooking on any NCL or NCLA ship, and a full refund for anyone who chooses to cancel.

Just a heads up in case anyone has future cruises booked on the POH.
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There's an article being discussed over on another cruise board stating that NCLA is temporarily re-assigning the Pride of Hawaii to the regular NCL line and will be positioning the ship in Europe for the summer of 2008.

That will leave only two NCL/NCLA ships operating in Hawaii -- the Pride of Aloha and Pride of America. They're offering a $50 OBC for rebooking on any NCL or NCLA ship, and a full refund for anyone who chooses to cancel.

Just a heads up in case anyone has future cruises booked on the POH.
thanks for the info; I haven't even gotten an email or fax on that yet. NMnita 8)
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Our gang had decided to do our next April cruise on PoH. I got my last cruise compete quote in today and was planning to book later this week.

Back to the drawing board.

I wonder what itinerary the Hawaii will be doing in europe. Could we be lucky enough for NCL to add a British Isles? Well . . . a girl can hope
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This is not a rumor nor is it temporary. See story below.

Perennial underdog Norwegian Cruise Lines has pinned much of its hopes in recent years on a massive buildup in Hawaii, where it aimed to dominate the market with a fleet of fancy new ships. But right from the beginning there were troubles -- most notably service snafus that became the talk of the cruise world. And now it appears the ambitious effort is unraveling.

In a middle-of-the-night announcement, Norwegian said that due to substantial losses it will pull the much-ballyhooed flagship of its Hawaii operation, the 2,224-passenger Pride of Hawaii, out of the market in February, 2008. The move comes just four months after Norwegian announced it would pull another ship, the Norwegian Sun, from the Hawaii market in October and tinker with the itinerary pf a third Hawaii-based ship, the 2,002-passenger Pride of Aloha.

The changes will leave just two Norwegian ships in Hawaii full time, Pride of Aloha and the 2,146-passenger Pride of America.

The Pride of Hawaii move is a shocker. Launched in the islands with much fanfare just last May, the ship was purpose-built for Hawaii cruising (it even has tropical Hawaiian flowers painted across its hull) and designed as the crown jewel of Norwegian's three-year-old effort in the islands. Like other Norwegian ships assigned to the line's Hawaii-focused NCL America subsidiary, it is flagged in the U.S. and carries a mostly American crew to comply with arcane rules governing cruises that stop only in U.S. ports.

What do the ship redeployments mean for Hawaii-bound cruisers? Prices for Hawaii cruises have been dropping the past year -- a bonanza for vacationers looking for a deal. But with fewer ships in the market, and supply and demand more in balance, that trend could reverse (at least, that's the hope at Norwegian). In short: If you're looking for a deal, go soon, before the moves take place and there's still a glut of ships in the market.

As for those passengers who already have booked on the Pride of Hawaii for February, 2008 and beyond: You'll get a full refund if you want it. Or, if you rebook on another NCL America ship by May 1, 2007, the line is offering a $50 per cabin on-board credit.
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Our gang had decided to do our next April cruise on PoH. I got my last cruise compete quote in today and was planning to book later this week.

Back to the drawing board.

I wonder what itinerary the Hawaii will be doing in europe. Could we be lucky enough for NCL to add a British Isles? Well . . . a girl can hope
Magnolia, when we did the Jewel we left out of Dover and did Cork. It was absolutely awesome, just because. In fact it was an awesome itinerary period. I wish they would do another norhern Atlantic crossing. We did have a couple of yucky days, but not even as bad as on HAL last November. The entire vacation that year (2 years ago) was the best of our lives. We still talk about it all the time. I am happy to see one ship leave Hawaii. I thought 3 might be overdoing in a bit. I now wonder if they will go down to only one ship or pull out all together. I hope they don't call it quits. I do know, along with the salaries they have to pay, the other overhead and the loss of revenue from no casionos on board is taking its toll. NMnita
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I wonder what they are planning to do with all those employees. They cannot shift them to the international ships, that will make them a target to the other employees and managers jeolous of American wages.

I feel they will be laid off. The union all employees belong to is a completely spineless entity, and will do anything NCL asks. That is why they coverted the maritime school in Maryland to the Pride of Piney Point.

I feel bad for my former co-workers. Call me rat, but at least I knew a sinking ship when I was on it.
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I also beleive she will be renamed- as for your comments mizzougypsy you will well know that the terrible attitude of the USA staff on these ships has much to do with why there are so many complaints, sure 3 ships serving a few small islands was a big ask and when the staff dont put in and treat the paying passengers like they are lucky to be served at all then you and your past workers reap what you sow and there is no need to blame NCL for anything as they beleived in the first place that USA staffing wouldnt be such a big problem as it turned out to be, after all, thats why NO OTHER cruise line gave USA cruise staff a chance to be part of new ships and industry, I am all with NCL on this one, just goes to show attitude and wanting to work less than anyone else of their like on other ships does much damage in this service industry-
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we had Josh as abutler and although we had some issues on our cruise on the Pride Of America it was fixed for us. it is not like you have a bunch of surly misbegotten crew members you have a few who are lazy but noone is mean or disrespectful.
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I spoke to a Customer Service rep from NCL's Majestic. She said that the American staff was a big disappointment, because of the lack of work ethics.

These young people will be let go, at the end. Can you imagine the service level on the last cruise!!!!

My son used to be a supervisor at a Vermont ski resort. They gave up on Americans, and had special permission to use foreign young people for the limited ski season. The Americans only wanted the free skiing! He would hire about 150 young people from South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa.

They were paid a limited amount of money here in Vermont, and the balance was transferred to their bank accounts in their home countries.
If they messed up, their special visa was cancelled, and they were immediately sent out of the USA. If they did well, they would have job the following year!

The Crown has been sold and will go to UK. The staff will be transferred to other NCL ships, so none will lose their jobs.

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personaly i cut my teeth cruising on home lines so an italian restaraunt staff, greek crew, and english hotel staff is what i like. but the times change and we have to change with it.
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I also beleive she will be renamed- as for your comments mizzougypsy you will well know that the terrible attitude of the USA staff on these ships has much to do with why there are so many complaints, sure 3 ships serving a few small islands was a big ask and when the staff dont put in and treat the paying passengers like they are lucky to be served at all then you and your past workers reap what you sow and there is no need to blame NCL for anything as they beleived in the first place that USA staffing wouldnt be such a big problem as it turned out to be, after all, thats why NO OTHER cruise line gave USA cruise staff a chance to be part of new ships and industry, I am all with NCL on this one, just goes to show attitude and wanting to work less than anyone else of their like on other ships does much damage in this service industry-
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I just got off the POH 2 weeks ago and found the crew to be thoughtful, friendly and hard working. Yes they are young and inexperienced but remember that one dosen't become a polished service worker overnight. When POH first sailed they had a lot of young crew members who were just in it for the "vacation" these people were "let go" and those who wanted to make a career were kept on. They are hard working and learning. These people (not all of them young mind you, we met food servers in thier 40's) are being offered jobs on the re-flagged Jade.
NCL oversaturated the market for 7 day Hawaii cruises, that, and not being allowed casinos forced this business decision.
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