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We are debating between the Norwegian Bermuda cruise out of Boston or the Carnival Cruise to the Eastern Carribean out of New York.. I want Carnival but my husband wants Norwegian.. neither of us have cruised before, so this will be a first for our family. I was watching some youtube videos of Carnival cruises.. the waiters sing and dance in the dining room (love it !) and they play games and do line dancing on the pool deck (love it!).. do Norwegian Cruises have this much fun too? What fun would we be in for if we cruised with Norwegian?
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My choice would be the Eastern Caribbean on Carnival. Each cruise has it's own personality but the Caribbean is always a favorite. You will find deck parties on NCL (weather permiting) but no singing waiters.
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We are debating between the Norwegian Bermuda cruise out of Boston or the Carnival Cruise to the Eastern Carribean out of New York.. I want Carnival but my husband wants Norwegian.. neither of us have cruised before, so this will be a first for our family. I was watching some youtube videos of Carnival cruises.. the waiters sing and dance in the dining room (love it !) and they play games and do line dancing on the pool deck (love it!).. do Norwegian Cruises have this much fun too? What fun would we be in for if we cruised with Norwegian?
No, many lines have stopped the dining room frolics..It used to a big thing, but as years went by people realized it actually interferred with the whole dining experience. If you think this is something that would appeal to you, go for Carnival. If you want a more relaxed experience with excellent friendly service and more dining choices go with NCL. Either way you will have a good time. To me cruising is an entire experience and not just singing waiters, to others these are the activities that they enjoy...

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There are not singing waiters on NCL. They used to have one or two "dining room shows" each cruise but with Freestyle they no longer do. I personally like the that it is no longer part of the dining experience. I am not a big fan of it but many cruisers do love it.

Please don't rule out NCL because of the lack of singing waiters. Add $100 to your cruise budget, experience all of the alternative restaurants and you will have a great time.

Then again, you won't make a bad choice if you go with Carnival. I head out on the Carnival Pride in just over a month.

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Just so we have an idea of what to expect..what *fun* things does the Norwegian crew do? Are there games on the lido deck? Is there a talent night? line dancing?
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People are different and like different things, that´s why there are more than one kind of cruiseline!

I prefer that the crew do their job and for me that means that a waiter shall serve food and not sing and dance!

I avoid any restaurant where the waiters sing and dance, at sea and on shore!

Linedancing on the deck is not for me either!

What you saw in the carnivalvideos you won´t see on NCL so if that´s important, choose Carnival!
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NCL's entertainment is excellent. With the advent of Freestyle 2.0 they have retooled their entertainment as well, with some of the shows being held twice during the cruise, in case you were dining and missed one.

They have a pool side bar-b-q, that's a deck party, after almost every port visit.

There's a mix of choices in what they call NCL U, which includes martini mixing, tequila wasting (watch out), and beer tastings. They also have several fun events including interactive seminars with the Second City Comedy Troupe.

A bit hit in the Spinnaker Lounges is their big White Hot Night Party, and there's also a Monte Carlo party in the casino one night.

LOTS of entertainment options, if you choose to partake. No way to get bored if you're looking for fun.
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NCL's entertainment is excellent. With the advent of Freestyle 2.0 they have retooled their entertainment as well, with some of the shows being held twice during the cruise, in case you were dining and missed one.

They have a pool side bar-b-q, that's a deck party, after almost every port visit.

There's a mix of choices in what they call NCL U, which includes martini mixing, tequila wasting (watch out), and beer tastings. They also have several fun events including interactive seminars with the Second City Comedy Troupe.

A bit hit in the Spinnaker Lounges is their big White Hot Night Party, and there's also a Monte Carlo party in the casino one night.

LOTS of entertainment options, if you choose to partake. No way to get bored if you're looking for fun.
I do like the sounds of these.. I think we will have a lot of fun.. I was just worried that a lot of our time on NCL would be spent dwiddling our thumbs looking for something to do.. but this does tell us we will have plenty to do..

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Just so we have an idea of what to expect..what *fun* things does the Norwegian crew do? Are there games on the lido deck? Is there a talent night? line dancing?
the crew does do a show, usually the last night and yes, there is a talent show on sone ships but not all. Remember, what you are seeing on TV is not reflective of all Carnival ships, but from what you are saying, I think you are looking for a party atmosphere. If your idea of a great cruise in dancing waiters, lots of pool games, etc Carnival would be a better line for you.

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The attraction for me with Carnival is that it is a pretty darned consistant product. I generally know the product I am buying, what they offer and the fact that not too much changes. I have grown to appreciate that. They have a darned good kids program too and that has also been very consistant over the years. I have no major complaints with Carnival other than they were slipping for a while on maintenance of their older ship, but several have gone into drydock for renovations since then. I trust that has been cared for.

NCL is all about variety. I like the number of eating venues I can choose from and have been known to get spoiled rotten by some of the staff. Many of NCL's staff have stuck with me and we have sailed with a few of the same folks a couple of times. Some passengers knock the freestyle aspect by saying they will miss having the same table/waitstaff every night. Because we like a lot of the speciality dining options, by the end of our last 14 day cruise, most of the staff at the restaurants knew us by name, I have to say from that aspect it was far from impersonal. as a matter of fact one MaitreD knew we had some issues one evening and provided us with priority seating because of a problem that another department had caused which would have likely resulted in us having a very late dinner or missing it completely.

NCL can really spoil you if you are booked in some of the nicer staterooms (or they have assigned you VIP status ) and in those cases you really do feel spoiled... I have at times found their kids program to offer much less than Carnival, on some ships I would gauge it as equal, even though NCL's facilities are nicer. But it is all about the staff. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't with NCL's kids program it just depends.

But you really can't lose. You will have a great time on either line. I would recommend any of the newer NCL ships if you do choose NCL. With Carnival I would just ensure the ship is newer or has drydocked in the past year.
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The attraction for me with Carnival is that it is a pretty darned consistant product. I generally know the product I am buying, what they offer and the fact that not too much changes. I have grown to appreciate that. They have a darned good kids program too and that has also been very consistant over the years. I have no major complaints with Carnival other than they were slipping for a while on maintenance of their older ship, but several have gone into drydock for renovations since then. I trust that has been cared for.

NCL is all about variety. I like the number of eating venues I can choose from and have been known to get spoiled rotten by some of the staff. Many of NCL's staff have stuck with me and we have sailed with a few of the same folks a couple of times. Some passengers knock the freestyle aspect by saying they will miss having the same table/waitstaff every night. Because we like a lot of the speciality dining options, by the end of our last 14 day cruise, most of the staff at the restaurants knew us by name, I have to say from that aspect it was far from impersonal. as a matter of fact one MaitreD knew we had some issues one evening and provided us with priority seating because of a problem that another department had caused which would have likely resulted in us having a very late dinner or missing it completely.

NCL can really spoil you if you are booked in some of the nicer staterooms (or they have assigned you VIP status ) and in those cases you really do feel spoiled... I have at times found their kids program to offer much less than Carnival, on some ships I would gauge it as equal, even though NCL's facilities are nicer. But it is all about the staff. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't with NCL's kids program it just depends.

But you really can't lose. You will have a great time on either line. I would recommend any of the newer NCL ships if you do choose NCL. With Carnival I would just ensure the ship is newer or has drydocked in the past year.
With us, the departure port is the main starting point.. we want to drive to the port and save on airfare that way.. so we're limited to either Boston (NCL Spirit to Bermuda ) or Manhattan (Carnival Miracle to Carribean) do you know anything about either of these ships? I wish airfares were not so high.. I"d be willing to fly to any departure port if I could get the right airfares.. I've been scanning JetBlue, Air Canada, WestJet and for just about anything out of this area (eastern Canada).. but the airfares are like $550+ upwards for each of us. .and we're a family of four so we figure driving ($180 gas) and parking($210) would be a lot cheaper than flying..
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With us, the departure port is the main starting point.. we want to drive to the port and save on airfare that way.. so we're limited to either Boston (NCL Spirit to Bermuda ) or Manhattan (Carnival Miracle to Carribean)
I havent sailed the Spirit, but frankly most reports I've had on it are not very flattering, and I understand the cabins are small. If those are your choices, I think I'd stick with the Miracle.
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mosiegirl, NCL also have many choices from New York so you can choose a newer NCL ship from New York if you prefer that.
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Eric, Kuki is right on the money about the Spirit. We have sailed her twice and from the standpoint of a family of four you would be wise to either consider two staterooms or opt for the Miracle, which offers larger and much more variety in stateroom availability.

I actually like the Spirit, it has lots of eating venues, terrific kid's facilities. It is unique and has a terrific crew. But it has one HUGE weakness, it has a limited number of quad staterooms and most of those are extremely tiny inside cabins. If I recall there were also a handful of porthole cabins, but not many, and they too were tiny. If you can get your hands on a deck plan, there are a couple of larger inside quads on some of the lower decks, if they haven't been booked yet. For the past year the Spirit has been experiencing engine problems and has operated at reduced speeds causing lots of itinerary changes. That should be fixed though when it goes into drydock next month. The price is usually very attractive on the Spirit. We did a 14 day repo on her this Spring and had a ball, for four of us it was about $2400, sometimes on her New York Spring Break sailings they run a "kids free" promo.

I do like the ship, we've had a lot of good times on her, but the cabins are awfully small. and the Miracle's cabin will seem almost palacial in comparison.
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On older ship can be nice too, we loved the Norwegian Wind, but if someone prefer a newer ship, NCL has that option from New York.

Older ships are often nice but they have one big weekness, they aren´t built for Freestyle! NCLs newer ship are perfect for that with lots of restaurants.
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Eric that is true, we went ahead and booked an aft mini suite on the Jewel for a repo next fall from NYC. it is a similar itinerary in reverse to what we did this spring on the Spirit, but we will have the benefit of a much nicer cabin and the newer ship.

For an "older" ship the Spirit actually handles freestyle very well. It does lack space sometimes for the entertainment it offers. the bars are pretty small and they'll stick some guy playing keyboard in a small area and it just doesn't work too well. We had a meet and greet in Henry's Pub and our group was spilling out into the Atrium, because there wasn't nearly enough room. But as usual, the good outweighs the bad and I am sure you'll have a great time no matter what you decide.
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Oh one last thing if any of you take part in the Martini Clinic ("how to get drunk very quickly for $15 and meet fun and fascinating people"") please be sure not to attend this function on an empty stomach...

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Oh one last thing if any of you take part in the Martini Clinic ("how to get drunk very quickly for $15 and meet fun and fascinating people"") please be sure not to attend this function on an empty stomach...

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good point, in fact next time we do the clinic I think we will split it which they allow. DD and I finished, headed to our cabin and almost slept through dinner. We are not lightweight drinkers either...We did meet really neat people, all strangers when we got there, 1 hour later we were all drunkin friends..
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Toooo funny ! I'll have to keep that in mind
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I just returned from a trip on the Dream to Bermuda (Boston to Bermuda) from 10-06 through 10-12. This was my 5th NCL crusie and honestly the worst.

First let me say, Bermuda was fun and I had a blast with my friends and family (there were 4 of us). But, many issues with the ship this time, and I have never experienced this before.

Buffets constantly running out of cups, silver ware. Coffee bar out of flavored syrups, broken blenders (no frozen coffee drinks for me!). Most of main dining room food was great!

Staff: my room stewrad was rude to me! I cam ein to my room before he was done cleaning (he was not in there) and told me he was only finished if the door was closed (it was open when I cam ein, it looked complted!) I never met my other steward.

Denny Anderson (crusie director) was a dud! Sorry he was...I usually love the crusie directors. No sail away party, no games by the pool, no contests, no arts/crafts, no lectures etc.

I was BORED this cruise. I actually went to sepak with the crusie consultant about some of my concers, as I typically book my next crusie on board. He told me he was not qualified to answer my questions and I shoul talk to the cruise director! This did not make me happy.

As I ahve said, this was my 5th NCL crusie and I usually love them, not so sure now. Maybe it is time for a new line.

I did send a 2 page typed letter to customer relations with the specifics.
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We took the Norwegian Dream to Canada in September and loved it. So, to each his own. We found it fun because alot of the people on board were much older and I think they were cold and stayed inside, so we had the deck bars to ourselves most the time. Met some great people, had great service and really loved seeing Nova Scotia. I'd go on the Bermuda trip, mostly because I love love love Bermuda and I think Norwegian is just fine for me. Love the different restaurants, as well. The staff is terrific too. We were VIP's and were treated that way.
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I just returned from a trip on the Dream to Bermuda (Boston to Bermuda) from 10-06 through 10-12. This was my 5th NCL crusie and honestly the worst.

First let me say, Bermuda was fun and I had a blast with my friends and family (there were 4 of us). But, many issues with the ship this time, and I have never experienced this before.

Buffets constantly running out of cups, silver ware. Coffee bar out of flavored syrups, broken blenders (no frozen coffee drinks for me!). Most of main dining room food was great!

Staff: my room stewrad was rude to me! I cam ein to my room before he was done cleaning (he was not in there) and told me he was only finished if the door was closed (it was open when I cam ein, it looked complted!) I never met my other steward.

Denny Anderson (crusie director) was a dud! Sorry he was...I usually love the crusie directors. No sail away party, no games by the pool, no contests, no arts/crafts, no lectures etc.

I was BORED this cruise. I actually went to sepak with the crusie consultant about some of my concers, as I typically book my next crusie on board. He told me he was not qualified to answer my questions and I shoul talk to the cruise director! This did not make me happy.

As I ahve said, this was my 5th NCL crusie and I usually love them, not so sure now. Maybe it is time for a new line.

I did send a 2 page typed letter to customer relations with the specifics.
Not knowing your age or background it is hard to judge why you didn't have a good time but remember a couple of things: 1-you picked an older ship not freestyle friendly and this time of year the demorgraphics are very different, with older people who don't care and fun and games as much sailing. One more thing to consider, the more we do anything the more the "awe factor" wears off.

Your cabin steward was rude, the cruise consultant couldn't help you, the CD was a dud and you choose to write a 2 page letter might indicate an attitude concern to many.

As someone who has been on both sides of the issues (worked customer service and have done my share of letter writing), 2 pages will probably end up in what we used to call, the round box...

Don't give up on NCL but do a little more homework so you will know what kind of ship you have chosen. Good luck next time.

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Susie it is nice when you get the VIP treatment. I like that too It can really make a cruise a very special experience. The services provided are a real treat.

I must say I would be turned off by a room steward who was curt or trying to deny me acces to my own cabin.

In my experience a "dud" Cruise Director does not affect the overall outcome of my cruising experience, but a great one certainly does add to my enjoyment. I have had two that have been memorable, one was John Heald, because I like the man and he really entertained us while onboard the Liberty. The other was Ray...darn I can't remember his last name, he is on the newest NCL ship right now I think. I saw him on the Travel Channel the other day and I recalled our own experiences with him on the Spirit this past March. He did a great job as a CD and he really had a couple of difficult, delicate situations (other than his usual duties) to deal with during this 2 week cruise, and he did a fantastic job.

The shortages at the buffet and coffee bar are a pain, and I have encountered a similar situation on RCCL Enchantment a few years back. But thankfully I have not yet encountered this on NCL, and hope I don't.

This ship, sailing and crew was obviously not a good match for you. It looks like you may need to do more research looking for your next cruise to ensure you find a better match for your own personal likes/dislikes and a crew that is offering excellent service skills. I will say that most of your issues should have been dealt with while you were on board and I do agree the onboard Cruise consultant is not the proper person to deal with your issues, however he should have done more to ensure your issues were brought to the attention of the proper department heads. I have utter contempt for most of the onboard cruise consultants and have found them to be nightmares to deal with, I am not sure why they are even on board, since they no longer book cruises on board, they rarely even stock catalogues, One in particular name John Dale on the Pearl created a huge mess with our Cruise Rewards, had to go all the way up to Crane Gladding's office to fix it, then they cancelled the darned cruise lol.

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White Hot Party Night? What the HELL did I miss eh?????????????????????
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see Kuki's above post for Oct 13 @ 11:30
I don't remember the White Hot Night for our 2 previous NCL cruises. Thought this might be something new to go prepared for. Sound like an opportunity we wouldn't want to miss. Can we possibly get more info. from Kuki?
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