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I think she looks pretty good - this was known as the ugliest ship in creation while she was being built, but in this picture she doesn't look too bad.

http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/mem...gian-epic.html
This is a link to a full gallery of Epic pictures

Maybe it's just the angle, but she doesn't look so out of balance now.
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She actually looks a lot like the Vista-class: Spirit, Eurodam, CostaAtlantica, Cunard Queen Victoria...
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maybe its my vidid imagination but the whole bow area reminds me of a head of a duck...either way in my opinion its not a very pretty look..too boxy..looks like boxes all stacked up on top of each other...
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Not a big fan so far but after you are on board it doesn't matter.
Will reserve final judgement until I see her in person October 30th.
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I wonder how she rides. She actually looks to be fairly well balanced since the Garden Villa area is actually set farther back than it looks when you add in the long bow.
It does look like there is a fair amount of wind resistance, however.

Garden villa is fairly forward, but they did that to have a long, uninterrupted deck area.

It will be very interesting to be on this ship and to get a feel for her. You really have no idea how it feels to cruise on Oasis unless you give it a try, and I suspect Epic will be the same way.

That is why I booked the firsat cruise - so I can report directly to you, our readers.
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Old June 15th, 2010, 12:56 PM
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http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/mem...gian-epic.html

I just posted an album of Epic pictures.
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I'm sure it's a lovely ship inside, but in all honesty and due respect, I think from the outside it's the ugliest cruise ship I've ever seen.
The huge square " box " like structure on the front makes it look top heavy and just too boxy--add to that the fact that from behind, with the aft section just dropping straight down , that also adds to the boxy look.
But, I'm sure it's a lovely ship inside, which is what matters.
I think it would be interesting to see and hear what the local people say when they see that thing approaching from the horizon!
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Old June 15th, 2010, 01:59 PM
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The funny thing about this is that we have seen very few pictues of the interior, although I am sure it is largely finished.

The exact same thing happened with Oasis - there were NO pictures of the interior until it hit Ft lauderdale.

But with Oasis I really had no clue what the ship actually looked like on the outside until I saw it in person - and it was far boxier than I expected.

With Epic - we have seen it a lot from the outside, which is probably its "worst side" more than most ships.

It is odd to stack up the stern like a Manhatten skyscraper, and to have that long forward bow with nothing on it. Many modern ships start building decks straight up from the tip of the bow and have no lower forward deck at all. It's kind of a waste of really valuable real estate - what if the bow had been built up at an angle from the tip and the Garden Villa suites were in the same place, but they had empty deck-space (same deck) in front of them - it would not look so front-heavy even though it would actually be heavier.

Except for the obvious wind resistance of the box on top, I am sure the ship is more balanced than it looks - those suites are farther back than they appear, it is just that there is nothing in front of them.
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Looks like a classy container ship. I live across from port, will get to look at it every few days.
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Looks to me like the very top of the ship is wearing sunglasses! 8)
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The sort of, stacked look at the front, reminds me of the Queen Mary..

Quite honestly, it's been quite while since beautiful ships have been built. To give the sea going public all the bells and whistles they been accustomed to, the profile of the ships has changed..the saving grace is once we get on the ship..who cares I can't wait to see her in October!
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It still looks "stern heavy" to me. And it does look like a duck! As several people have said, it really doesn't matter once you're onboard .

Once onboard, I don't "get" why they've put the shower, toilet and sink in three different places in the cabin. I guess if you have many people in one cabin it makes sense, but for two, no... .

I do think the single cabins are a wonderful idea! They're incredibly small, but look comfortable for one person.

And what Trip said!
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Now, this is also an Ugly ship. Can you guess what it is? It has been known as "The shopping Cart" and my personal name for it, "Tennessee Tuxedo."
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yup....the uggo Grand/Golden, etc....hated that shopping cart look, what were they thinking..oy!
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I don't get the "duck" reference for Epic, but I always thought Grand Princess looked like a duck.
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>>I think she looks pretty good -

I think Epic is one of the most interesting ships.
As for me I like its original shape very much !!!

Epic looks different !
That is a point.

I like it really very much - it looks as an ugly crazy duck .
An I like that !

But I'm NOT sure it's a lovely/interesting ship inside too.
There is a lot of small rooms there (that is OK !) but I am not sure there is
enought light incide.

Till now I saw only some pretty nice drawn pictures but reality
could be not so fine.
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Where's the duck? I don't see it!!!

Do I need to say the magic word? (that's a Groucho reference for those of you too young to get it).
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As is often the case the ship looks better in photographs or in person than the original artist and computer drawings. The stack above the bridge doesn't look half as bad to me as it did previously.

I'd forgotten about how homely the Grand class Princess ships are.
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But this pic, from my friend Peter Knego's site, Maritime Matters, makes it look something - I don't know what. I suggested Legos with tinkertoys on top:

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Anyway - I amore interested in how the inside looks and so far we have not seen that many pictures. Rest assured then when I get aboard we will have plenty more pictures to see.
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I read one report from the current media cruise where many are panning the new split bathroom layout. NCL already plans to replace the cabin sinks and install more lighting at them.

There is a lego look to it. Probably from so much white along the sides.
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I think the bathrooms are actually something of a deal-breaker for some people.

I think you actually have to live in the stateroom for a few days to decide if they are good or bad. As Linda says, it depends on how soundproof the toitie is (it matters ).

I also wonder if the shower is private enough. A lot of friends & family sail together who have no interest in sharing even vague frosted glass outlines of their bodies with other family members. So the curtain helps, but the entrance is an issue.

I guess at some point we will be compiling a "what were they thinking" list.
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The more I see the finished pictures the more I like the ship. The top still looks misplaced but getting used to it... Can't wait to hear how the cruise and the cabins are...
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I think the bathrooms are actually something of a deal-breaker for some people.

I think you actually have to live in the stateroom for a few days to decide if they are good or bad. As Linda says, it depends on how soundproof the toitie is (it matters ).

I also wonder if the shower is private enough. A lot of friends & family sail together who have no interest in sharing even vague frosted glass outlines of their bodies with other family members. So the curtain helps, but the entrance is an issue.

I guess at some point we will be compiling a "what were they thinking" list.
The exterior look of the ship really doesn't matter too much to me. I really don't take much pride or show much disdain for a ship that doesn't look "pretty" in the water. What matters is the inside and what's going on inside.

I think generally, from that aspect, Epic will be a winner in many ways.

I got to see a mock-up of the cabins during a shipyard visit for the keel-laying, and I (along with some other press there) loved the look of "New Wave cabins", but questioned the very idea of the set up of the "washroom" areas.

At the time we were told it wasn't necessarily the final product, so thought they would try and change them, but as it turns out, they appear very similar to the originals. And, yes, I think that may prove to be a mistake.

It won't likely make much difference to couples sailing together, but families, friends, or just cabin match mates, may not care for the set up at all, and it could indeed be a deal breaker for them.
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It resembles Donald Duck wearing a hat.
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