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johnthed0g December 23rd, 2011 08:56 AM

Epic..
 
Just watching a TV show/Ad about this ship....it looks to me that the bathroom is sort of open plan as part of the cabin & the toilet/WC has a frosted glass door, is this right??

Trip December 23rd, 2011 09:17 AM

Yes, the sink is in the cabin, and, the toilet/shower a seperate frosted enclosure. If you do a search here, you will find some spirited discussions, before the ship came out about this subject.

I had no issues on my Epic cruise, and, I don't expect any in March either.

johnthed0g December 23rd, 2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 1406665)
Yes, the sink is in the cabin, and, the toilet/shower a seperate frosted enclosure. If you do a search here, you will find some spirited discussions, before the ship came out about this subject.

I had no issues on my Epic cruise, and, I don't expect any in March either.

Yes I seem to recall things being said, but the shower & basin actually in the cabin & a glass toilet door?? Maybe I am being sensitive here but not everyone wants to be exposed like that, some want a degree of privacy. Surely the room gets damp?
Just searched, found Paul's review of the bathrooms..I think the idea is completely ridiculous, we will certainly NEVER go on this ship. What worries me is what on earth would happen if someone who felt like we do? didn't know & then opened the cabin door to see the equivalent of a Roman open washroom area?

fun2cruiz December 23rd, 2011 01:23 PM

Given that the only people in the stateroom would generally be the passengers occupying the stateroom, I see no problemo. Stateroom attendant, room service, etc. will knock before entering as would any other staff member, needing access to the stateroom for some reason.And you do have a do not disturb tag that can be hung outside door, and locks on entrance door that will deter staff from entering, and presumably respecting your privacy !

Certainly wouldn't make me take that ship off my "Sailing List" for something like this.

johnthed0g December 23rd, 2011 01:42 PM

Sorry just don't get it at all, apart from personal privacy issues, if there is no basin/sink in the toilet then surely germs can be spread? So have I got this right? to use the shower you need to get undressed in the cabin, then after you have used the shower you have to go back in the cabin to dry & get dressed do make up? To use the toilet you are in a glass cabinet not separated from the main cabin? I don't know about building regulations but I suspect these cabins would be illegal on land for housing. I am astonished.

fun2cruiz December 23rd, 2011 02:36 PM

I feel confident that what NCL has done regarding their staterooms/bathrooms, etc. meet all the requirements for a cruise vessel.

It's not your cup of tea and thats ok, but the ship is selling well (and holding the usual higher pricing for a new ship as expected) and has had many good reviews and minimal negative comments about the bathrooms in staterooms.

Trip December 23rd, 2011 02:41 PM

John, just the wash basin is, outside of the "bathroom". When you walk in the cabin, you would not see a roman bath:) The john, and shower are enclosed.

johnthed0g December 23rd, 2011 03:04 PM

Doesn't the shower just open into the cabin & the toilet has no washing facilities? You have to get dressed, undressed etc in the cabin, the toilet only has a glass door which isn't air or sound proof?

Trip December 23rd, 2011 03:15 PM

I was in a handicappped cabin, so the shower was quites spacious...you just walk a few steps to the sink, in the cabin, and srcub a dub dub:)

The shower was big enough to undress...not sure how the regular cabin encloser was for size.

lusitanica January 4th, 2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by johnthed0g (Post 1406698)
Doesn't the shower just open into the cabin & the toilet has no washing facilities? You have to get dressed, undressed etc in the cabin, the toilet only has a glass door which isn't air or sound proof?

Norwegian Epic Uncovered video will probably answer your questions.
They made cabins too narrow (to get more cabins on the Epic). There is simply no room for a "human" bathroom in the cabin.

iamdogsmom January 19th, 2012 03:32 AM

It is my understanding there is a drape that you can close to section off the sink and shower areas from the sleeping portion of the cabin. I'll know for sure after March 17th....will let ya'll know when I get back.

johnthed0g January 19th, 2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by iamdogsmom (Post 1410635)
It is my understanding there is a drape that you can close to section off the sink and shower areas from the sleeping portion of the cabin. I'll know for sure after March 17th....will let ya'll know when I get back.

Thanks, I will look forward to finding out how people get on with the arrangements.

Trip January 19th, 2012 09:01 AM

Iamdogsmom, You will be on with our group! Maybe we can say hi!

johnthed0g January 19th, 2012 09:23 AM

The ship may be selling well but do people realise they are virtually in an open plan bathroom, have any comments been made?

Mike M January 19th, 2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 1406699)
I was in a handicappped cabin, so the shower was quites spacious...you just walk a few steps to the sink, in the cabin, and srcub a dub dub:)

The shower was big enough to undress...not sure how the regular cabin encloser was for size.

Trip,

Your cabin was not the "normal" balcony cabin. It was a HC cabin and was the size of an Aft Penthouse cabin. That is what the cabin directly above is.

I think you would have had a different opinion if you had been in a standard balcony cabin. :D

Take care,
Mike

Trip January 19th, 2012 02:08 PM

Believe me, I agree, the wave headboard alone seems to have taken up precious floor space....I can't wrap my mind around around why they thought all these designs were a good idea,and not a design flaw???? The cabin could have parked a 57 chevy:)

lusitanica January 20th, 2012 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamdogsmom (Post 1410635)
It is my understanding there is a drape that you can close to section off the sink and shower areas from the sleeping portion of the cabin. I'll know for sure after March 17th....will let ya'll know when I get back.

Yes and no.
Yes, there is a drape that does not help much.
No, it cannot section off the sink from the sleeping portion of the cabin.
With or without the drape:
- one has to enter the cabin through the "bathroom"
- there is no handwash in the toilet
- there is no sound insulation
- balcony studio is sold as balcony stateroom

graphicguy January 21st, 2012 05:51 PM

We had a balcony cabin. It had a huge shower. Both myself and my GF could fit. Wash basin was fine. Someone could shower while the other could use the sink or commode. We really liked the layout. Epic is sailing full, at premium fares, so I'm thinking NCL likes the results.

johnthed0g January 21st, 2012 06:03 PM

It strikes me that not everyone wants to be using the toilet while someone is getting changed/using the shower. No basin to wash hands in the toilet?

Trip January 21st, 2012 06:08 PM

Outside the toilet, right there, is the sink. Right or wrong in your mind, it allows double duty [pun] when needed.:)

johnthed0g January 21st, 2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 1411129)
Outside the toilet, right there, is the sink. Right or wrong in your mind, it allows double duty [pun] when needed.:)

"In my mind" ....on a ship where people are paranoid about infections & handwashing you use the toilet then you have to open a door etc...as you say OUTSIDE is the sink, it's like something out of the ark not an ultra modern ship.


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