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Old May 18th, 2014, 09:57 AM
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Our passports have expired and we thinking about going with the Cards since we only travel out of the country now on cruises.

My question is simple. Since the Passport Cards say travel is limited to land and sea what happens if you have a medical emergency and have to be airlifted back home?

Has anyone had this happen, or does anyone know if someone has had problems returning to the states in a situation like this?

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Yes, I had a friend who broke her leg on cruise. We were going from St. Thomas to St. Maartan; they flew her home out of St. Maartan on commercial airline. So I assume she needed passport and not card.
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Old May 18th, 2014, 11:46 AM
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Just get the passport.

If you were medically evacuated it is "possible" that not having a passport could delay your return. If you were critically ill and needed to be transported, by air, from a foreign country to the U.S. they may allow it without delay. However, there could be a delay to get state department approval.

Why chance it? Spend the extra money and just get the passport. Passport cards are for people who travel, by land, between Mexico - U.S. and Canada - U.S.

If you're going to cruise. Have a passport.

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Old May 18th, 2014, 12:38 PM
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Also, just because some cruises currently allow the use of passport cards doesn't mean they always will. The U.S. rules could change and require a passport book for all cruises. And, any other country could suddenly require cruise ship passengers to have a full passport to enter their territory. You just never know in today's world.

Lets review the words from the Customs and Border Protection website:

"The passport card can be used at U.S. land and sea ports of entry when arriving from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda. The card may not be used to travel by air. Also, some Caribbean nations will not accept the passport card for entry into their country, so you may be required to have the more traditional passport book to visit those nations on a cruise."


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Old May 18th, 2014, 01:15 PM
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Thanks for the responses. I guess we'll just get the passports renewed. Only thing though, at our age we may not get another 10 years passport use.
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Sure you will. Have faith and enjoy
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Oh, I agree, just get the passports and be safe..
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Australia allows seniors to have a 5 year passport!
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Follow up: Just spoke to the post office passport folks and they said that CBP (Customs and Border Patrol) informed them that they recommend a passport book for ALL travel outside the US where there's even a chance you might have to fly back.

Passport cards would take a lot of additional work (did not specify but I'm assuming the Consulate or Embassy would have to get involved).
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Thanks for posting that, Lawtoncruise. I will also say that if the cost wasn't so high for a full passport, they might have more people getting them. I often tell everyone the usual things, that if you look at the cost over 10 years it's just a few bucks a year, it's the best ID you can have, blah blah blah. That doesn't make a family of four feel good when they look at paying for four passports.

But, it is what it is, and apparently the high fees are funding most of the passport office operations. It would be nice if after a certain age you got a break in the price, or an option for a passport valid for 5 years. In the UK a passport is free if you were born before 9/2/1929. Not sure why that date was chosen.
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Finally able to get an answer that settles the question. Just got this from Customs and Border Patrol:

Thank you for contacting the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) INFO Center.

Please be advised the cards will work for you if an emergency arises. You will not be able to use a commercial carrier but the circumstances are different when you are airlifted by emergency responders.

Thank you again for contacting the CBP INFO Center.

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I would get the passport. I had a friend who broke her leg onboard the ship. They put her on a Delta flight out of St. Martaan; if she had a card, they couldn't do that.
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I am pretty sure the cards are meant for people who cross land borders on a regular basis - day workers, for example.

It is not very comforting to know the passport card will work "if you are medevac'd (that will cost $100,000 anyway) - but not a commercial carrier.

I suspect 99.99999% of all medical emergencies where people fly all the way home to the US involve commercial carriers, not medevac (unless they have great travel insurance, of course).
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An older gentlemen I know was on a cruise a couple years ago and had some heart issues that required him to leave the ship in St. Thomas and be admitted to a hospital there. He then had to fly home commercial several days later when his condition allowed his return to his home in Florida. Of course he has had a passport continuously for about 60 years so he had no problems flying back.
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Dave the scenario you just posted, mirrored ours exactly.
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What is exactly the difference in price between the "card" and the passport? It is worth it not to just have a passport?
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$110 for the book. $30 for the card.
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