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Old August 2nd, 2013, 05:31 AM
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Default Will Obama meet with Putin at Summit?

To me this is a no brainer, but I believe Obama will meet with Putin and not lose face. I don't know why the White House would even consider this as a response to the Snowden amnesty in Russia.
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To me this is a no brainer, but I believe Obama will meet with Putin and not lose face. I don't know why the White House would even consider this as a response to the Snowden amnesty in Russia.
Obama has to maintain his image as a world leader willing to meet with any other leader. If he doesn't meet with Putin, people around the world will wonder about his integrity.
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If he meets with Putin he will be criticized.

If he does not meet with Putin he will be criticized.

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In my opinion he should focus on the problems affecting this country and forget about relations with foreign nations.
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In my opinion he should focus on the problems affecting this country and forget about relations with foreign nations.
My sentiments are the same.

Let the other countries do what they want in their own borders, make the USA more self sufficient and a better place to live.
Keep our military strong and ready but stationed over here and not all over the globe.

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It was announced this morning that Obama has cancelled his meeting with Putin. He will attend the summit in Russia, but it is unknown if they will have a meeting at that time.

I disagree with some of you who say that Obama should stick with our matters, and not be bothered with other countries. It is very important that the communication be left open. Our farmers are a good example, as they send tons of things like wheat to Russia.

Not talking is childish. It reminds me of my former school kids. They didn't get along, until they sat down and talked the differences out. Most of the time, they became friends, or at least understood each others needs.

I do understand the problem. It is very difficult to put two roosters in the same hen house.
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If I was President, I would not meet with Putin.

We should not have to cater in to world leaders that won't cooperate with us.
Yes we sell the farm products but if we didn't they would have a problem.

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No they wouldn't. They could buy from China.

The meeting of the minds has a name. It is called Diplomacy.
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You know this food thing is driving me up a tree. I see these starving people and than I also see pictures of warehouses filled with rice. What is going on?

Obama is showing he is macho and will stand up to Putin because of Snowden. Americans cheer, right on Mr. Obama you're telling him straight from the shoulder. Meanwhile when Obama gets to Russia. He and Putin will meet in a secret rendezvous and make up. Then on the group photo Putin will be smiling and Obama will give his nonsmile.
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AS for the food, it is just way to much Gov control, not just with the US but other governments.

We really don't know what is going on behind closed doors with Snowdon.

The facts that we do know is, he made an agreement with Putin, to not disclose any more info, if he wanted to stay there. (Putin is ex KGB)

Is it possible that the US doesn't want him to come back, which would cause a trial, which would disclose more info?

Is this a front that the two leaders are presenting, so the world thinks they are not talking?

Remember before the election, Obama was caught on tape telling the Soviet official to tell Putin he could do more after he was elected again?

Of course if they are somehow working on world peace, then all the power to them.

We just simply don't know what is going on.
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"Washington is now looking at the greatest counterintelligence failure since the Rosenbergs betrayed nuclear know-how to Stalin some 60 years ago. Now the Russians have Mr. Snowden's hard disks to unearth more U.S. secrets than could be stolen by a battalion of spies.

Why did Vladimir Putin thumb his nose at the U.S. in the Snowden affair? Because he could

President Vladimir Putin has it in his hands to endlessly embarrass the U.S. by releasing choice bits and pieces from the Snowden trove, or to threaten to do so to keep Washington on its best behav*ior. After this slap, "extremely disappointed" is the diplomatic equivalent of pouting—unbecoming to a great power.

Why did Mr, Putin decide to thumb his nose at the U.S. after playing cat-and-mouse for six weeks? Easy—because he could. He has taken the measure of Barack Obama, concluding that there isn't much there there, to paraphrase the president on the State Department's emails about Benghazi."



Abstracted from Exploiting Obama's Foreign Policy Retreat" by Josef Joffe appeared in the Monday August 5, 2013 issue of the Wall Street Journal.


Personally, I think that you will see a less animated and less smiling President Obama at the summit while Putin will gloat and lord it over him.
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Is it possible that the US doesn't want him to come back, which would cause a trial, which would disclose more info?
Yes, it's very possible.

Also it will be a good lesson for Snowden to have to live and work in Russia.

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Obama has cancelled meeting with Putin. Great. How do you communicate when you say I don't want to talk with you. To the other leaders in the world have to be saying its theatrics but they are also saying he really looks beligerant. Someone in his administration has told Obama he has to look tough not like that peanut famer named Carter. Nothing is going to come of this positioning, but Obama handlers are saying they have made their point without risking anything. Meanwhile Putin says the invitation is still out there.

Obama will sit with his friends at the G20 while his subordinates in state and defense department do the contact work with Russian counterparts. But what happens if US needs Russian help in Mideast problems? Could be Putin will pout or send more weapons to keep Assad in power and the experts are saying if the rebels win the terrorists win and take all the chemical weapons.

This last scare from the terrorists has shown the vulnerability of the US to a threat. I hope the drones start to knock off some of the leaders of the local Alqueda groups that are still out there.
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[QUOTE=devilsadvocate;1481817]

Obama will sit with his friends at the G20 while his subordinates in state and defense department do the contact work with Russian counterparts. But what happens if US needs Russian help in Mideast problems? Could be Putin will pout or send more weapons to keep Assad in power and the experts are saying if the rebels win the terrorists win and take all the chemical weapons.

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The US is never going to get Russian help in any part of the world.

The Middle East will always be a mess and turmoil over there will be constant.
The US needs to get out of there.

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[QUOTE=Manuel;1481835][QUOTE=devilsadvocate;1481817]

Obama will sit with his friends at the G20 while his subordinates in state and defense department do the contact work with Russian counterparts. But what happens if US needs Russian help in Mideast problems? Could be Putin will pout or send more weapons to keep Assad in power and the experts are saying if the rebels win the terrorists win and take all the chemical weapons.

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The US is never going to get Russian help in any part of the world.

The Middle East will always be a mess and turmoil over there will be constant.
The US needs to get out of there.

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"Washington is now looking at the greatest counterintelligence failure since the Rosenbergs betrayed nuclear know-how to Stalin some 60 years ago. Now the Russians have Mr. Snowden's hard disks to unearth more U.S. secrets than could be stolen by a battalion of spies.

Why did Vladimir Putin thumb his nose at the U.S. in the Snowden affair? Because he could

President Vladimir Putin has it in his hands to endlessly embarrass the U.S. by releasing choice bits and pieces from the Snowden trove, or to threaten to do so to keep Washington on its best behav*ior. After this slap, "extremely disappointed" is the diplomatic equivalent of pouting—unbecoming to a great power.

Why did Mr, Putin decide to thumb his nose at the U.S. after playing cat-and-mouse for six weeks? Easy—because he could. He has taken the measure of Barack Obama, concluding that there isn't much there there, to paraphrase the president on the State Department's emails about Benghazi."



Abstracted from Exploiting Obama's Foreign Policy Retreat" by Josef Joffe appeared in the Monday August 5, 2013 issue of the Wall Street Journal.


Personally, I think that you will see a less animated and less smiling President Obama at the summit while Putin will gloat and lord it over him.
They went to their death proclaiming that they were innocent .I believe they were set up.

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Old August 25th, 2013, 01:54 PM
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With the crisis in Syria and Egypt heating up to fireball strength Obama is going to have to meet with Putin to even keep a semblance of trying to find political solutions to these problems.
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Default Obama will show he is not a peacemaker nobel prize winner if he doesn't meet Putin

Obama should put away his pride and ego and meet with Putin to negotiate a Syria settlement without using cruise missiles attacks. He should be stripped of the Nobel peace prize if he resorts to death and destruction weapons. War weary doesn't need anymore shock and wonder demonstrations.
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