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Old February 15th, 2014, 12:00 PM
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Default New Syrian War solution: Saudi Arabians supply anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons to

Saudi Arabia is to supply Syrian rebels with anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons from warehouses in Jordan and border near Turkey.

Now supposedly the Obama administration has declared that no way are the rebels to get the antiaircraft weapons because they could be used against civilian aircraft by rebels or terrorists.

Could the Obama administration have given the Saudis tacit approval to do this? Concurrently, the Obama administration is giving money to the rebels to pay their salaries and you can be sure the administration is positive not a penny of this money is getting into the hands of terrorists, right?

Have you ever wondered how the Saudis keep the terrorist from putting bombs in their domestic planes. Could the Saudi Arabians be paying off the terrorists for peace in the air?

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Old February 22nd, 2014, 05:24 AM
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Default New prince promises no missiles will end up in radicals hands

Saudi Arabia sidelined its veteran intelligence chief and replaced him with another prince well regarded by U.S. officials. The new prince still wants to supply missiles to rebels but he is going to assure US that if the West supplies missiles to Syria rebels they wouldnot end up in radicals hands

(This sounds like a familiar story that Afghans told US that supplied missiles would not get into hands of Taliban. )

February 20, 2014 WSJ

Americans for three years re*fused to approve the proposed Saudi transfer of antiaircraft ar*tillery and other heavy weapons to rebels, citing the presence in insurgent ranks of al Qaeda-in-fluenced fighters who could get their hands on the arms. Saudi officials have complained bit*terly about the U.S. constraints.

The Saudis now plan to pro*vide rebels with shoulder-fired missiles, or manpads, that can bring down jets and antitank missiles, an Arab diplomat and several opposition figures said recently. If the transfer takes place, it would be the first time rebels have such powerful weap*ons in any significant quantity.

Prince Mohammed, as a lead*ing counterterror figure globally, is in a position to assuage Amer*ican fears that if/the West sup*plies weapons, they will wind up in the possession of radicals, said Mustafa Alani, a security analyst with the Gulf Research Center who is close to Saudi se*curity and intelligence circles.

"The Americans have to change then: policy, and Prince Mohammed is the right person to take this mission....He's the one who can calm their worries," Mr. Alani said.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 08:20 AM
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Default Missiles for insurgents? What else can President Obama offer the Saudis.

Same old issue again with new twist. The Saudis are going to push Obama for shoulder fired missiles for Syrian insurgents. This time the Saudis will argue the Russians are not a factor anymore in this struggle, and US should ( if they aren't already doing it through CIA) supply missiles to the insurgents. Will Obama make a deal with the Saudis? Will the tensions escalate as the war hawks and Pentagon see an opportunity to ratchet up the war drums by recommending air strikes in Syria to pull attention away from Ukraine. Probably nothing will happen even if Putin makes another land grab because of NATO disfunction and lack of leadership. Watch next week when Obama comes back to his nest in the White House and brags about the Obamacare signups, but not one mention about the number of older Americans and the lack of young people signups - and the number added through state Medicaid programs. and more deadline changes. He will also brag about his meeting with Pope Francis and how he and the Pope were in agreement on selected issues which favor Obama's policies.
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So many problems!!! Oh my!!!

I am a retired senior citizen and I am enjoying this stage in our lives.
My thank you goes out to people like prince for doing the worrying for me.

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It's a serious issue. The brutal fact is that some problems have no good answers. When rebels confront a tyrant, the knee-jerk reaction is to say "great!" Trouble is, the rebels are often tyrannical themselves. Especially today. Especially in the Middle East. Giving shoulder-fired weapons to anybody scares me, and when we give them to an outfit with no established and tested command and control, and who may have mercenary motives, it's even scarier.

The good news (so far) is that the president has resisted the pressure from the warmongers in Congress to go headlong into Syria. And it is good to see that we no longer treat Saudi Arabia with unchallenged deference as we have ever since Pappy Bush fell under their thrall (and their money). We should remember where 9/11 came from and why Dubyuh gave them a pass and invaded another country.
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