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Old April 11th, 2014, 12:33 AM
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It has come to my attention that there is a movement afoot in the great state of Louisiana to make the Bible the State Book. And not just any Bible, the King James version.

It has also come to my attention that Louisiana has once again placed as 49th out of 50 states in the latest survey of educational achievement in grades K-12.

So, church and state considerations aside, I would suggest that the state legislators of the Pelican State might want to choose a less challenging translation. A quick look at amazon reveals that if you buy both the Bible for Dummies and the Complete Idiot's Guide to the Bible, you get free shipping.
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The Bible used to be standard reading in all schools.
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What time period was this

By living in Louisiana, I am Blessed to have a front row seat to the insanity...if any version of The Bible is adopted, we would have to call for a special statewide election for new leadership...our elected officials should be very careful what they wish for

There is a reason too keep the two apart...history has shown time and again the hypocrisy when you mix the two...

It appears there is a double standard in application of The Bible in Louisiana....if you are a certain newly elected married Congressman and get caught kissing your married staffer, you are told to resign by your party leaders (should it not be left to the people that elected you in the first place)... if you are a certain US Senator and admitted to paying professionals you have your party's support to run for Gov.

Louisiana has a long history of things like this...hard to believe but true...one could not make this up
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Truck Cruiser....hypocrisy runs deep for both politcal parties in Louisiana (as for the Country as a whole).......the difference is Democrats usually don't run on the platform of the Bible, Family Values and the Founding Fathers of the Constitution.(in Louisiana we accepted deeply flawed Democrats...Edwin Edwards come to mind)...Republicans make it the foundation of their platform (the higher moral ground), which makes their hypocrisy when exposed even more disgusting when they critize Democrats (think Bobby Jindal)
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The Bible used to be standard reading in all schools.

It sure was. Every morning, and the Lord's prayer too. Do you reckon that if we brought that back, the kids would learn better? Because what I remember is that, even though I was active in my church, those three minutes were mostly spent wondering what was for lunch.
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Another reason Louisiana has been crossed off of my "Places to Retire" list.

This initiative does not have enough support (at this time) to make it into law but the thought just scares the heck out of me. Religion does not belong in public schools. Unless it is the academic study and comparisons of religion.

I am completely in favor of people wanting their children to have a faith based education but I will not pay for it nor will I allow public schools to lack funding in order for people to send their children to faith based schools via a voucher program. You want it. Pay for it.

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Mike, I concur....when our infamous Gov Jindal introduced school choice "vouchers" for poor parents to have a choice enrolling their child into a public or charter school with a better performance, one of the charter schools that was approved was a Muslim school....met all the requirements, did not try to "hide" who they were....once the State Assembly discovered this, they revoked the Charter School by saying it's vouchers could only be used at "Christian" Academies (which is code for....)

It is illegal to divert public tax dollars to support private religous schools, ..why would I pay taxes to be used to support a private school that would not admit my Child because of his Color or my Religous beliefs...there is a huge well funded out of State media program that paints a false narrative of this debate...Charters and private academies were refusing or limiting admission with children with Special Needs...once the media exposed this, suddenly there was a "revision" of policy on the part of the State...in New Orleans there are only a few high performing schools, with limited slots for vouchers, that every parent who has a child enrolled in a low performing school is fighting for a spot, while quietly in the western part of the State, vouchers are being utilized to make the public schools even more segragated then they already are

The US Justice Department is monitoring the State's voucher program much to the chagrin of Gov Jindal

My Son was already in College when I moved here...if he was just starting school, I would have never transferred...Parents in Louisiana are just now waking up to the fact they may have been sold a bill of goods, post Katrina, about rebuilding a school system that was already one of the worse in the Nation

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Another reason Louisiana has been crossed off of my "Places to Retire" list. ..

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I certainly agree with that statement. Religion is a personal thing and no state, city or federal government force that on anybody.


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Manuel...if you and your lovely young bride ever cruise out of New Orleans I will take you to "Duck Dynasty"Country where religion,politics and duck hunting merge
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Manuel...if you and your lovely young bride ever cruise out of New Orleans I will take you to "Duck Dynasty"Country where religion,politics and duck hunting merge

We have been to New Orleans and we enjoyed our experience. We might go again some time but I will stay away from politics or religion.

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You are absolutely right Venice! I have said for years that these politicians don't care about abortion at all. If they did, then when the GOP ran all 3 houses at the same time, they could of passed a bill recognizing a child in the womb as a "person" thus granting a baby rights under the 5th amendment of the Bill of Rights. "No person shall be deprived of life or liberty without due process of law" Most, not all, of politicians are only Christians as long as they can get you to vote for them.
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Most, not all, of politicians are only Christians as long as they can get you to vote for them.

Or maybe many of them are not your "flavor" of Christian. Oh, wait, I forgot. According to you there's only one possible interpretation. . .

Why does every Christian think he holds five aces when in fact there are thousands of Christian sects, each with a different hand?
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Or maybe many of them are not your "flavor" of Christian. Oh, wait, I forgot. According to you there's only one possible interpretation. . .

Why does every Christian think he holds five aces when in fact there are thousands of Christian sects, each with a different hand?

I do believe that Truck Cruiser was referring to the fact that most politicians claim to be "Christians" until something happens that shows they aren't. It is non-specific to denomination or group they belong to.

You see a lot of the "two faced" variety in politics.

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Why does a politician have to be a Christian.

I don't believe that religion should mix with politics.

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Manuel & Mike.....I agree with both of you...the louder a politician professes that they are a "Christian" the greater the "Hypocrisy" between what they "say" and what they "in fact" do...both major political parties are guilty of it, one party in particular has elevated it to a "sweet science"

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I do believe that Truck Cruiser was referring to the fact that most politicians claim to be "Christians" until something happens that shows they aren't. It is non-specific to denomination or group they belong to.

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Ah, but there's the rub, Mike. Because with so many Christians so anxious to have government invade our bedrooms (while keeping government out of the rest of our lives), legislate based on their version of Christianity (abortion, etc.), and condemn others based on their particular view of scripture, it quickly becomes a question of which kind of Christian we're talking about. Sure, broadly, I suppose most of us deplore the kind of hypocrisy we see in Louisiana today, but in so many cases these matters are not resolved among the various Christian sects. Yet the most ardent followers of those sects believe they have the true answer.

Christians have killed Christians and others for centuries over these disagreements.

Frazier Glenn Miller, after killing three Christians he thought were Jews yesterday, is quoted as saying, "If Jews can have a nation, why can't we have a white Christian nation?" Whether we think so or not, he considers himself to be an upright Christian doing the Lord's work.

Naturally, he's nuts. But he's simply on the outer edge of all the evil things we do to each other in Christ's name.
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We have always had lunatic fringes in our society... the 24 hour news cable cycle monster amplifies the acts and then attempts to put their spin on it to fit their mantra (i.e. gun control, mental illness hate crimes etc)...the more extreme the act or actor, the greater the bias on the part of the media...just once, I would like to see the media practice responsible journalism

I happen to live in Tulsa during the OKC event and the media painted the act of terror as done by a person (s) of Middle Eastern background... when Tim McVay was arrested I don't recall the media doing a public apology to the Middle Eastern community

Hurricane Katrina for a brief moment brought out the best in people regardless of Race, Religion, or Politics....but it only lasted a moment....my parents taught me just because someone says they are a Christian does not make them one...their acts when no one is looking will show their heart
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Prior to 1954, the Pledge of Allegiance didn't contain the words Under God. It took some Congressional nitwits to insert that and things have gone downhill ever since.
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Prior to 1954, the Pledge of Allegiance didn't contain the words Under God. It took some Congressional nitwits to insert that and things have gone downhill ever since.

History tells us that Ike was a big champion of adding "under God" to the Pledge. The backdrop was that we were in the middle of the Red Scare, blacklisting was common, and to be a true American meant to be squarely anti-Communist. Since them there Commies were usually referred to as "Godless Commies," it was thought that adding "under God" to the Pledge would put even more distance between them and us, and given the tenor of the times, it was seen as a way to buttress patriotic fervor, because God was perceived to be on our side. It was clearly misguided, but it was done in the face of what was then nationwide panic and paranoia, which is how a great many misguided things tend to happen.

What always cracks me up is the number of times I have met people (often on cruises, in fact) who will look me straight in the eye and tell me that the Pledge was written by the founding fathers. When I say that no, it was written in the late 1890s by a Baptist preacher who considered himself a socialist, and wasn't adopted as the official pledge until the mid-1940s, they look at me as though I'm nuts. But, of course, that's the truth.

Never confront a political and/or religious zealot with facts. Their eyes roll back and their hearing reverts to the "off" position.
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