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Old April 16th, 2016, 06:22 PM
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I have decided I would like to move to Canada or on board a ship if a certain person becomes president. No need in saying who, we all have our own opinions. I'm not the one who will start WW3.

Wouldn't it be fun to cruise the world instead of being stuck in the US?
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I have decided I would like to move to Canada or on board a ship if a certain person becomes president. No need in saying who, we all have our own opinions. I'm not the one who will start WW3.

Wouldn't it be fun to cruise the world instead of being stuck in the US?
I faced the same dilemma - but 33 years ago. I decided to work on cruise ships.
I have just moved ashore this year and now live in a major Asian Capital City. I say a prayer of thanks very day, watching the USA implode from a safe distance.
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Am I the only person who is happy to live in the USA? I was not born in the US but I enjoy living in beautiful Palm Coast, Florida. My wife and I are retired and we have a nice house to live in. My yard is large enough to have several fruit trees which I enjoy taking care of. We live close to the beach and to a lot of vacation destinations so there is plenty to do.


I think that I am living in a great country and if I did not like I would leave. However There is no other place that I would want to go.


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I faced the same dilemma - but 33 years ago. I decided to work on cruise ships.
I have just moved ashore this year and now live in a major Asian Capital City. I say a prayer of thanks very day, watching the USA implode from a safe distance.

The brother of one of my friends moved to Ibiza about 30 years ago .He and his wife love it there.
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I have decided I would like to move to Canada or on board a ship if a certain person becomes president. No need in saying who, we all have our own opinions. I'm not the one who will start WW3.

Wouldn't it be fun to cruise the world instead of being stuck in the US?
I wanted to relocate to Canada once but I am glad I decided to stay in the US .I relocated in 2003 from New York City to a small New York City .From May to September it is paradise here.I am 10 minutes from a beautiful beach community with wonderful restaurants and shopping .In the 13 years i have lived here there have been no violent crimes committed.
No need to worry .Bernie Sanders will not get the Democratic nomination .

The next President will make this world a much better place to live in and I am looking forward to January 2017.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 04:34 AM
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Canada is too cold.

Hillary won't be building any walls like Adolph will.

If a certain someone wins, Mexico might be the place to move to. There will be a wall keeping all the ignorance to the North.

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One can only hope that all the haters leave this Soon to be Great Again country when Donald J. Trump is elected President!
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One can only hope that all the haters leave this Soon to be Great Again country when Donald J. Trump is elected President!

Donald Trump is the one who is preaching hate. His slogan should be '' Make America Hate Again'' ..


He has insulted several groups that I and or my family members belong to.


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American has always been great. The only way Adolph could make it better would be if he left and took his supporters with him.
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I feel the same way about Hillary supporters Zydo. America used to be great but has fallen so much in the past 28 years.
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Donald Trump is the one who is preaching hate. His slogan should be '' Make America Hate Again'' ..


He has insulted several groups that I and or my family members belong to.


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Please enlighten me to this Hate you speak of? I have never heard Trump say anything hateful towards any group of people!
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Please enlighten me to this Hate you speak of? I have never heard Trump say anything hateful towards any group of people!

I can't believe your statement.

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I feel the same way about Hillary supporters Zydo. America used to be great but has fallen so much in the past 28 years.
America has always been great and President Hillary, especially with a Senate controlled by Democrats, will keep the American Dream alive. The future is looking fantastic!

All Trump will accomplish is lining his own pockets while bankrupting America. If he accidentally wins the Presidency, he could easily be the last President the US has.
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Make America great again ???????

You people are arguing over supporting:
1. A habitual liar who is cashing in on her connections and the complete incompetence of her opposing party.
2. A pathological liar who has no idea what is happening on this planet.

This is the best you can come up with ?????

The rest of the world is laughing at you.
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Trump is the habitual liar, but you are correct that he is a dangerous idiot in many ways. By comparison, Hillary may tell an occasional fib.

At least the United States isn't in the EU. Spain is just one of several little EU pigs with one crisis after another. Germany's ability to bail out EU countries is greatly diminished. Brexit doesn't help.

If Putin's puppet Trump is elected, NATO could be in trouble and the world can't afford that.

Laughing or not, the rest of the world should be very concerned with US election and the direction the country could take as a result.
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The rest of the world can laugh all it wants, but if the US falters in any way there will be some crying all over the world. Europe is already on edge from the Brexit issues, So it would not take much to put them in a tail spin.


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A lot of people were laughing at the Brexit vote until it happened and now many are crying.
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Trump is the habitual liar, but you are correct that he is a dangerous idiot in many ways. By comparison, Hillary may tell an occasional fib.

At least the United States isn't in the EU. Spain is just one of several little EU pigs with one crisis after another. Germany's ability to bail out EU countries is greatly diminished. Brexit doesn't help.

If Putin's puppet Trump is elected, NATO could be in trouble and the world can't afford that.

Laughing or not, the rest of the world should be very concerned with US election and the direction the country could take as a result.
So that's the plan to make America great again??????

You have to choose between 2 complete Bozos to represent your country, "but at least they are not as bad as a few other countries".
That's the best plan you have ??????

Everybody is still laughing - and rolling their eyes.
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So that's the plan to make America great again??????

You have to choose between 2 complete Bozos to represent your country, "but at least they are not as bad as a few other countries".
That's the best plan you have ??????

Everybody is still laughing - and rolling their eyes.
I'll type slowly so maybe you will understand, but I have my doubts.

America never stopped being great.

There is only one bozo, Adolph Trump.

In conclusion, I really don't care what someone who outsourced their country thinks.
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So that's the plan to make America great again??????

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America is great and will continue to be. Presidents come and go but the USA will continue to be great.
I am an American by choice and I am enjoying my life in the community where I live.

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America is great and will continue to be. Presidents come and go but the USA will continue to be great.
I am an American by choice and I am enjoying my life in the community where I live.

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Keep your expectations low, and America will always be great.
Low, high, or anywhere in between. Enjoy your exile.
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Keep your expectations low, and America will always be great.

Since you don't like America just enjoy the place where you live.


Personally, I was born in Europe and have visited all the countries in Western Europe but I am very happy where I am.


Let's be thankful that we have the right to choose.


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Going back to the original question; if you moved to another country, cold Canada or warm Mexico, you will specifically be subject to the laws of that country as well as be an alien in that country. If you move onto a cruise ship you are basically an American taking a long boat ride. In either case, unless you change your citizenship you will still feel some of the effects of the US government.
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One of my former co-workers spent X amount of dollars to be put on a list for relocation to MARS .Perhaps that is a place to go for people dissatisfied with the government .
In my lifetime there has never been a president that I ever believed to be great.

Perhaps that will change in 2017 .
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Going back to the original question; if you moved to another country, cold Canada or warm Mexico, you will specifically be subject to the laws of that country as well as be an alien in that country. If you move onto a cruise ship you are basically an American taking a long boat ride. In either case, unless you change your citizenship you will still feel some of the effects of the US government.
Depending on where, you could have available healthcare without worrying about what the obstructionist republican Congress does. A number of countries are more civilized than the US when it comes to healthcare.
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FYI......Canada is pretty hot right now!
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FYI......Canada is pretty hot right now!
Canada may have cold winters but it has people with warm hearts.

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