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SmithF September 19th, 2000 09:25 PM

Rising Sun Seal
Can anyone tell me what the seal on the bow of Princess ships represents? It is a rising sun and I don't know what it symbolizes. Any ideas would be appreciated. You can find a picture of it on Bart de Boer's website ( right on the homepage (thanks Bart).


Babette September 21st, 2000 10:16 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal
Good question. Perhaps it is a holdover from P&O's early days. You know.... "The Sun Doesn't Set on the British Empire".....

Donna September 22nd, 2000 12:10 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal
Hi Babette,
I think you may be on to something. Figured it has something to do with P&O.
Been waiting for Norm to shed some light on this. Norm....any ideas?


Kevin September 22nd, 2000 10:06 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal
The rising sun is in fact a symbol from P&O (parent of Princess Cruises). It is actually the top part of P&O's coat of arms. The official coat of arms is four symbols (the lion of Britian, the dragon of the Orient, the kangaroo of Australia, and the elephant of India) set on each quadrant of the P&O houseflag (whose colors are from Spain and Portugal, the P (for "Peninsular" of P&O)).

The coat of arms is on display on a stairway landing on Pacific Princess. I was looking at it one night on the way back from dinner - I got back to my cabin, and the next day's Princess Patter had a history of the P&O coat of arms (so I didn't really know all this myself :) ).

I would assume the coat of arms is on display on the other ships of the fleet. That and the portriat of Her Majesty the Queen are probably standard gear on these British ships...P&O has a stong sense of tradition, so I would think they would have these two items on each ship.

SmithF September 23rd, 2000 04:28 PM

Thanks for the answer! (n/m)

norm September 23rd, 2000 06:43 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal

I think Kevin is onto something. My first reaction was the crest of the Chaine des Rotisseurs, a French society recognizing cullinary excellence of which Princess Cruises is a member, but I don't have a picture in which it's recognizable.


Donna September 23rd, 2000 07:08 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal
Thanks Kevin,
Glad you could clear that up for us. Here I thought you just happen to know that history :-)


Donna September 23rd, 2000 07:23 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal
Hi Norm,
I figured you would know about the rising sun seal, but yes, I think Kevin had the correct answer, at least it all makes sense. Thanks for your input :-)


Kevin September 23rd, 2000 11:09 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal
As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words... :)

SmithF September 24th, 2000 12:41 PM

And the five stars?
One more question... what do you suppose the five stars below the sun (on the ship's seal) represent? A five-star rating perhaps?

Thanks for the coat of arms picture Kevin.

SEA DAZE September 24th, 2000 03:54 PM

RE: Rising Sun Seal

Kevin September 24th, 2000 07:53 PM

RE: And the five stars?
Well, I looked at close-up picture of the bow of Pacific Princess that I took this summer. On the Pacific, they aren't stars - it looks like gold braided rope (not real rope of course - a "picture"). I was looking at Bart's website and his photo of Dawn Princess - I had all I could do to make out the sun on the bow let alone what was underneath! I would assume what you were looking at was the "braided rope" which could look like individual pieces (or stars) if you weren't looking at a clear picture. I have no reason to believe that the seal is different on the other ships (but, you never know....)

Carole Dunham September 30th, 2000 02:09 PM

RE: And the five stars?
I wonder what the latin bit translates to. Any scholars out there?


Kevin September 30th, 2000 10:32 PM

RE: And the five stars?
I'm no Latin scholar, but from the history of the coat of arms I read in the Princess Patter it means "Who shall separate us"

Bumble Bee October 1st, 2000 12:35 PM

RE: And the five stars?
My translation is - Who can separate us?

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