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Old November 24th, 2001, 10:27 PM
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I just returned from the Mexican Riviera cruise aboard MV Sea Princess. The following are the dress guidelines as published in the Princess Patter.

<h1> [b] DRESS CODE </h1>

During the day, sportswear and casual clothes are suggested. However, we kindly ask that you do not wear bathing suits, bathrobes, or beach attire in Public Rooms or Lounges, especially the Dining Room, where items such as t-shirts, halter tops, and jeans are not permitted and shoes must be worn at all times.

<h2> Guidelines for wear from 5:00pm and throughout the evening are: </h2>

Formal: On formal nights, typical black tie formal wear is appropriate. Items include evening gowns and cocktail dresses for ladies and tuxedos, dinner jackets, or dark suits for men.

Smart Casual: When evening dress is smart casual, passengers dress as they would for a fine restaurant at home. Appropriate attire includes skirts, dresses, slacks, and sweaters or blouses for ladies and long pants, shirts with collars and/or a sport jacket for men.


In another thread, Donna noted that the latest edition of Princess's Cruise AnswerBook also reflects a deletion of semiformal evenings.

It's also signifiant to note that the evening attire is prescribed "from 5:00pm and throughout the evening" since the "dressing down" after dinner (usually for the show) has been a recurring topic of discussion on this board.

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Old November 24th, 2001, 11:52 PM
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Norm.. its nicely stated.. but doesn't matter and not worth writing, if they dont want to enforce it.. which they DON'T.

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Old November 25th, 2001, 12:41 AM
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Is the deletion of semi-formal nights fleet-wide and on all itineraries? We will be on the Regal for 48 days and I will just take my tux (and no suit) if there are no semi-formal nights.
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Old November 25th, 2001, 01:39 AM
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I've just returned from the same cruise that Norm was on except as he departed , we came on. (Sea Princess Nov 10-17, 2001)

On Formal evenings, majority of folks were dressed as requested and ladies of course were always top notch. The men if not in a tux were in dark suits with a few in smart casual.
Since the ship normally left at 6pm from a port then expecting folks to be dressed as requested starting at 5pm was asking a bit much.
What I did see , was if someone was going to an early sitting then they were dressed by about 6pm in the requested attire for the evening. Vey few after that time were in shorts or daytime wear.

I enjoyed the lack of semi-formal as it meant I did not have to bring another jacket nor worry about more ties or pants.
For the Smart Casual, I brought along dress pants and either business casual short sleeve shirts or docker type.
Only on the first night and last night did I wear docker pants and polo shirts and thats because you have been or about to travel.

Princess wants your bags ready by meal time or 10pm at the latest.

Considering we had parties on deck after the second sitting, most folks remained in smart casual dress.
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Old November 25th, 2001, 05:46 PM
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Semi-formal has been gone for some time. We last went of the Grand in February and it was history then. On the Grand 12-16 and counting down the days!
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Old November 26th, 2001, 11:04 PM
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Oops--was on 11/17 Golden on first cruise, Missed the dress down posts I guess. We did dress up all the way (tux for me), but after dinner and a bit of cocktails and dancing in the wheelhouse, I deformalized both nights before heading down to the Casino. Shorts and golf shirt. I was not alone, but most were still dressed up. Didn't know I was supposed to stay dressed all night--I'll know better next time (though I'd wager I was a lot more comfortable at the Blackjack table)!
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Old November 26th, 2001, 11:09 PM
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Well Jeff,
At least sweating as to am I lossing money would not ruin your pants. Regardless,most folks would not see you.
Its your cruise also , enjoy,
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Old November 27th, 2001, 11:14 AM
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Who cares how "other people" are dressed as long as they are dressed? As long as someone looks neat and clean, and has on a shirt, pants, (or dress) and shoes - what does it matter? Does someone in a nice, crisp t-shirt and jeans really damper *your* evening? I would hope not.
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Old November 27th, 2001, 09:19 PM
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Chichi wrote:
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> Who cares how "other people" are dressed as long as they are
> dressed? As long as someone looks neat and clean, and has on
> a shirt, pants, (or dress) and shoes - what does it matter?
> Does someone in a nice, crisp t-shirt and jeans really damper
> *your* evening? I would hope not.

Nothing at all wrong with tank tops, and short shorts either!

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Old November 28th, 2001, 03:55 AM
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on people put together to properly wear them, i might add.

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Old November 28th, 2001, 09:37 AM
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the problem with tank tops and short shorts is that they show too much skin (and hair, flab, etc..). ... the dining room is a place to cover up

i'm just saying it shouldn't bother you or "ruin your vacation" if someone doesn't wear a tuxedo on formal night -- it is their choice

your fun should be in your own dressing up -- if that's your idea of fun -- you have to remember not everybody likes to dress up formally

of course there has to be some guidelines: like covering up those legs above the knees and those armpits and backs .... especially super hairy backs... you don't want to see that while you're eating lobster
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Old November 28th, 2001, 11:17 PM
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Chichi wrote:
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> i'm just saying it shouldn't bother you or "ruin your
> vacation" if someone doesn't wear a tuxedo on formal night --
> it is their choice
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> of course there has to be some guidelines: like covering up
> those legs above the knees and those armpits and backs ....
> especially super hairy backs... you don't want to see that
> while you're eating lobster

These two paragraphs say completely opposite things. If its their choice.. why does there have to be guidelines? Who decides which is right.. Their choice.. or guidelines??
If you agree there should be guideline, then surely the cruise line has set them out.
But then I guess it's everyone's choice as to which "guidelines" the cruise line sets out are meant for them.

That's always been my problem with this arguement, about dress codes. To me it makes no difference if the guidelines are dress codes, chair saving, kids in hot tubs, smoking ... or any other of the miriad of suggested behaviors on the ship.

They should all be accepted out of respect to your fellow cruisers.. in an attempt by the cruise line to provide a reasonable compromise of social behavior on their ships.
If not.. all activites are individual choices to make.. and everyone can do as they please with no regard for others. And everyone should give up their right to complain.. Just accept that their choices arent the same as yours.

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Old November 29th, 2001, 09:50 AM
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Kuki, you're right (and I'm not surprised). I have standards, too (as you can surmise from my postings), regarding dress codes. I like the concept of Personal Choice and Freestyle for this very reason: the people who like to dress up and be around others who are "dressed to the nines" can do so, because they have their own dining room, etc... whereas the others who prefer a more casual environment on "formal night" have that choice, as well. It's really a win-win for cruiselines and cruisers who do this.

As for people who want to wear shorts and tanktops -- there's always the buffet.

Thanks, Kuki.
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Old November 29th, 2001, 06:35 PM
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I bet you all would have loved seeing me on my last cruise sitting in a toga at dinner. Don't worry, I was wearing a bow tie. :-) (No, it wasn't Carnival!)

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