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Old January 16th, 2007, 08:42 PM
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Hi ya'll.
I have a bone to pick with Princess. I just booked my 22nd cruise, but the first with Princess. I am single and usually get a cabion to myself.
Most cruise lines will charge double but just charge the port charges for one person. My friends booked for $853.00 per person double, and my rate for same category is $1655.00.

Are there enough of us singles to make enough noise to the cruise line?
I dont mind paying extra, but this is a bit much!!! I understand that they are trying to fill the ship with as many passengers as possible because that would be more people with wallets to spend at the casino, bars, and for excursions, etc. But why not give us singles a break on port charges? This will be my first on Princess but it may be my last.....

Does anyone feel the same way?
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Old January 16th, 2007, 10:34 PM
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Hi clayb77,

Unless my math is wrong, you're paying double the rate (as you said, expected), but not the port charges.

$853 X 2 = $1706.00

You're paying $1655.00.

$1706.00 - $1655=$51.00, which is probably the port charges.

I do agree with you, that singles should get some kind of break, or there should be at least a few singles cabins on each ship.
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Old January 16th, 2007, 10:39 PM
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No, their rate of $853 includes 2 port charges
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Old January 16th, 2007, 10:41 PM
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Sorry, guys.
Let me clarify.

$853 x 2 includes 2 port charges.
I should be paying twice the cruise rate with one port charge..
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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:14 AM
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That's been an old bugaboo for me with Princess. You're perfectly right, they charge double on the port charges for a single, however, from the goodness of their heart, you only pay a single charge for the government taxes and fees! Be sure and point that out to your TA - not all of them are aware of that.

Wrote them and got no where. Still like Princess best and put up with it for that reason. My next Princess cruise will be with an Oceanview which means I pay 150% of the cabin charge - rather than the 200% for a balcony. Been on the Coral twice and don't need the balcony plus I rarely used it.
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Old January 17th, 2007, 12:38 AM
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Hi, Cruznut

What do you mean about the 150%
I booked an inside and paid 200% plus

Should I question them again?

thanks, clay
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Clay,

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What do you mean about the 150%
I booked an inside and paid 200% plus

Should I question them again?
No, you should check your math. Fern is right. 2 x 853 = $1,706, which, when I last checked, was more than the $1,655 that you paid. In fact, the difference is $51, which, as Fern said, contrary to what Fern said, actually covers the per passenger taxes and fees levied by various authorities for your itinerary. Most of the major cruise lines, including Princess, changed their fare structures to eliminate the line item for "port charges" due to hassles from lawyers a few years ago.

Backing up a step, Princess's policy is that the single supplement applies only to standard inside cabins booked at the fares published in the brochures. IIRC, the fare for single occupancy is 150% of the double occupancy fare for cruises to the Caribbean and to the Mexican Riviera, and 160% of the double occupancy fare for cruises that go anywhere else. Nonetheless, these fares do not apply to (1) suites and minisuites, (2) cabins with balconies, (3) "deluxe" (larger than standard) cabins, or (4) promotional fares. The "gotcha" is that Princess usually has promotional fare that are less than half of the "standad" single fares. Thus, it's still cheaper to pay twice the promotional fare, less taxes and port charges for the second passenger, than to pay the cheapest single occupancy fare.

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Clay - I'm paying 160% of the fare for an Oceanview cabin on the Coral this coming April (goes to the Panama Canal) - categories DD through N give you that rate; I'm paying 150% of the fare for an Oceanview cabin on the new Emerald this November (Caribbean itinerary) - cagegories C through M.

Suggest you get a brochure from your local travel agency or AAA. This information is printed in very small print at the bottom of the page showing the costs. Government fees are additional.

What ship are you booked on and what itinerary? Your price for an inside cabin sounds out of line to me. If you're going some place other than the Caribbean, Mexican Riviera or Panama Canal, don't know what the price would be as I don't have any other brochures.

If the price is $853 x 160% = $1,364.80 plus government fees ... or x 150% =1,279.50 again plus the fees. That's quite a difference from what you're paying.

Would suggest you check an online agent - I have a terrific one but can't post it, but Nancy does handle a great many of the specialty cruises for CruiseMates so you could check those out to see her info.
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April 22, 2007 sailing
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Mexican Riveria R/T from San Francisco.

The price is in line with the online agencies.
Cat. JJ

$1207 rate
+ $447 taxes and fees

$1655.61
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Old January 17th, 2007, 11:27 PM
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I just checked the double rate

$613.50 rate
+ $239.54 taxes & fees

$853.04 p/p

Total cabin: $1706.08
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Clay - the brochure rate for that 10 day sailing on April 22 on the Golden in a JJ category cabin is $1,289 per person times 150% = $1,933.50 plus government fees and taxes of $36.54 = $1,970.04. You go by the brochure rate to figure the 150% discount, so it looks like you got a good deal after all.
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It's a simple matter of economics. Why should the cruise lines lose money when people book one person per cabin? If you don't want to spend the extra money, go with a friend.
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Old January 19th, 2007, 01:05 AM
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If I had a friend to go with, don't you think I would do that?
My cruising buddy is in school right now.

I paid for the cruise, that's not the issue.

I still stand by my initial point.

Please look at the prices that I have listed for double and for single.
It is funny to me to talk about the brochure rate. I've never paid the brochure rate. I am paying just a few dollars less than two people in a room with two port charges and taxes.

Does not anyone agree that we singles should get a break at least on the second port charge? What am I missing here?
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Old January 20th, 2007, 01:35 AM
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Clay I've never paid the brochure rate either ... just mentioned it, cuz that's what Princess figures the 150% or 160% discount for a single in certain categories.

Already said I agreed with you about the port charges ... and I wrote Princess complaining and got no where.

Maybe if you - and other singles - wrote them, we'd get some place.

No it's not fair, but they consider it part of the cost of the cabin ... and no, I don't understand that way of thinking!!!
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Old January 20th, 2007, 10:58 AM
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Thanks, Cruznut.

I will write to them. Like you said, if enough of us write, they might consider how ludicrous it is. I bet sometimes I spend as much money onboard as many couples do.

Thanks for your input.

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