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Old January 12th, 2012, 11:23 PM
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I still smoke on my balcony. No one has caught me yet. I paid for my cruise, and shouldn't be told how to enjoy myself.
Enjoy the next two days as myself & many others just waiting to turn you in for a smoking violation and a $250 fine. I've been smoked out enough on my balcony to have to put up with it any longer. It's the best move Princess has made in many a year.
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If you drink too much it really does not effect my vacation. Smoking bothers some more than others. My grandson has asthma and smoking greatly effects him. If there is a designated smoking area I will avoid it, but you cannot avoid smoke from someone else's balcony.
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I have had many people who have drunk too much "invade" my vacation and NOT in a positive way..Should we have a "heavy drinkers area?"
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In Princess's well meant intentions of providing a place for both non smokers & smokers alike, from recent initial reports on one of their ships they seem to have created still more of a problem for some of the balcony cabins on the port side. It seems that many of the smokers have now begun to choose the promenade deck port side as their smoking area which means that the port side cabins directly above the promenade deck receive almost constant smoke. I doubt if anyone could have foresaw the problem being that serious.
The only solution is booking starboard cabins only in the future until the problem is corrected.
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Are the smokers following the rules?

Are they smoking in the areas designated by Princess?
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Are the smokers following the rules?

Are they smoking in the areas designated by Princess?
Sure they are, it's just that they never anticipated that many smokers occupying the promenade deck at one time which is concentrating the problem for certain cabins. I don't have a problem with it. It's just nice to know before hand that booking a port side cabin right over the promenade deck might be smokey most of the time.
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We are booked in the middle of the Aloha deck. Do you think we will have problems?
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We are booked in the middle of the Aloha deck. Do you think we will have problems?
It's hard to say at this point but I'm thinking the more aft you are the more the problem. As more people return from other trips we'll have more information about mid ship cabins.
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Well..being a cigar smoker I can understand others POV as to them being disturbed by secondhand smoke and I can appreciate that but here's the thing...if the cruiselines will compromise ( as a lot of them have ) and provide a nice lounge for them to use then what is the beef? People choose their vices and I love cigars and accept the risk as an adult just like ALL of the other cruisers accept the risk of overeating at the buffet and risk getting diabetes and heart disease etc. While they might overeat how does that affect others you ask....easy answer...those who overeat make it difficult for others to get around them when they weight in at 300 or more pounds...where they can't get from Point A to Point B w/o taking 4 times as long and have a line of people behind them stretching as far back as a buffet line will allow.

Let's address the balcony....while I understand there are those who don't like the smell so let's let the cruiselines have "smoking cabins" just like they have hotels or cars...how about the back of the ship where the smoke won't waft towards the front?
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This is my first post and the first thread that hits home with me. We're going on the Grand Princess 15-day out of San Francisco to Hawaii. We don't want to be out on our balcony and have to smell cigarette smoke for 15 days. I don't care if Princess has designated areas for smokers, that's fine with me as I do avoid those areas - by choice. I hope Carnival follows suit here as we do like both lines.
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This is my first post and the first thread that hits home with me. We're going on the Grand Princess 15-day out of San Francisco to Hawaii. We don't want to be out on our balcony and have to smell cigarette smoke for 15 days. I don't care if Princess has designated areas for smokers, that's fine with me as I do avoid those areas - by choice. I hope Carnival follows suit here as we do like both lines.
You have multiple lines to choose from, we smokers don't. It bugs me to have non smokers want the remaining cruiselines to remove balcony smoking.
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Heck! Peoples opinions on smoking??
We might as well ask for their opinions on politics! I think they should give those that smoke plenty of designated area's to relax and smoke. Why their implementing new rules, Maybe start handing out citations and that hefty $250.00 fine for being overly intoxicated in public! OMG! I'm rolling! Sorry couldn't help myself! SMOKE POLICE!!,SMOKE POLICE!!
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Sure they are, it's just that they never anticipated that many smokers occupying the promenade deck at one time which is concentrating the problem for certain cabins. I don't have a problem with it. It's just nice to know before hand that booking a port side cabin right over the promenade deck might be smokey most of the time.
I get it. I was on HAL just a few months after Celebrity banned smoking on balconies-we must have had 40% of our fellow cruisers were smokers. the promenade deck was awful and so was our balcony and we had never had a problem before-1 or or 2 smokers near you is not a big problem when the ship is moving-but multiple smokers near you is different. I have not been on HAL since though I suspect some of the smokers (Celebrity loyalist smokers) gravitated back to Celebrity when they found HAL was not their cup of tea,even if smoking was less restricted.
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I have had many people who have drunk too much "invade" my vacation and NOT in a positive way..Should we have a "heavy drinkers area?"
It is called the brig and yes they put people there and even send them home at the next port. we had an obnoxious drunk guy in the dining room near us at dinner on RCI. the next night him and his wife were missing and did not see them again. Now I am sure the crew reported this guy, but if fellow PAX reported such people as much as the report smoking violators, yes there would not be a problem. for some reason people don't report this as often, maybe they are afraid it could be them next time whereas a nonsmoker KNOWS they will not be smoking???

Rule of thumb for me is to stay away from 3 or 4 days cruises that fall over the weekend-so no Friday to Monday or Thursday to Monday cruises for me, no matter the line, because too many people see these as weekend cruises and "party hardy" time.
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I think its a good thing they banned smoking the Balconies because i don't smoke
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I think its a good thing they banned smoking the Balconies because i don't smoke
It is not hurting Carnival corporation either as they have HAL with less strict nonsmoking rules-so they have a cruise line for their smokers to go to who want to smoke on their balcony- which is fair -the smokers needs somewhere to go.

However, all the more reason I will avoid HAL in the future. It was bad enough after Celebrity stopped the balcony smoking. We were on HAL in Jan, 2010 right after the Celebrity no smoking on balcony rule went into effect. We could not believe how many smokers there were on our cruise. It has to be much worst now.
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We were on HAL in Jan, 2010 right after the Celebrity no smoking on balcony rule went into effect. We could not believe how many smokers there were on our cruise. It has to be much worst now.
I haven't sailed HAL but I imagine the balcony problem has gotten much worse as more of the other cruise lines have introduced stricter rules. With Princess banning smoking in the rooms & balconies last year the increase of people smoking in the casino has seen a dramatic increase since it's now used as the indoor smoking room.
If you avoid the casino & surroundings the other areas of the ship aren't all that bad as long as you avoid the designated smoking places.
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Implementing non-smoking restrictions saves big $$ on their insurance costs. The more restrictive, the bigger the savings. And, all else is their 'smoke' to hide the real truth. Why else would they allow smoking in the Casino???? Think about that!

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I've noticed more & more people smoking the e-cigarettes throughout the ship even in places where I've never seen people smoking regular cigarettes prior. I've still got my doubts about how un-harmful they actually are to bystanders.
At least they still don't smoke them in the main show lounge or dining areas.
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I still smoke on my balcony. No one has caught me yet. I paid for my cruise, and shouldn't be told how to enjoy myself.

As long as you are not sailing in the same ship that I am sailing on I can handle that.


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Great move on the part of Princess, & you're right Trackypup, they had to do something to counter the many who said thet switched tp Celebrity due to their smoking restrictions. I'm just sorry that the new rules will not be in effect when we take our next Princess cruise in October. I guess it's just the way of today's world. I'm sure that it won't be long before ALL cruise lines adopt similar rules.
and vice versa I am sure. I know I sailed HAL several times and never had any trouble with large amounts of smokers UNTIL January 2010 shortly after Celebrity changed their policy. We had an unusually high number of smokers that cruise which I am guessing were former Celebrity loyalists who were smokers.
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and vice versa I am sure. I know I sailed HAL several times and never had any trouble with large amounts of smokers UNTIL January 2010 shortly after Celebrity changed their policy. We had an unusually high number of smokers that cruise which I am guessing were former Celebrity loyalists who were smokers.

I predicted that happening when they made the change and many people said it wouldn't make any difference. I guess smokers do think it's a big deal after all. We've definitely seen less smoking on Princess but it may be due to the smokers congregating only in their designated areas which we avoid whenever possible.
Now if they would only add some doors to the casino to keep the smoke segregated from the PSD it would make it much more enjoyable when waiting on line and for the workers that have to be there all day long.
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If you can't smell the smoke in casinos, your nose is not functioning. The first thing I do on a cruise is figure out how to get around the casino. My wife and I are very allergic to smoke and don't have trouble except when we can't get around the casino.
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Recently on the Coral they're opened up an IC right next to the casino. Even in the morning you can smell the stale smoke from the night before and when the casino is open it can be even worse.
BAD mistake for a chosen location. We would get our food or coffee & go back to our room rather than sit there & have to smell the smoke fumes. Sometimes I wonder how they can make decisions such as that without any foresight. Perhaps a wall to segregate the IC from the casino ???
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Everyone who eats peas and Carrots will die!!!!

To those who say somking causes cancer, then why are they not working on a cure? The key word is cause, they do not know. They do know that life style will contribute to it in some of our cases. But my urolgist told my I could smoke all i wanted there is not link to protate cancer. The other 9 are linked so take that for what it is worth.
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Everyone who eats peas and Carrots will die!!!!

To those who say smoking causes cancer, then why are they not working on a cure? The key word is cause, they do not know. They do know that life style will contribute to it in some of our cases. But my urolgist told my I could smoke all i wanted there is not link to prostate cancer. The other 9 are linked so take that for what it is worth.
Believe what you want I guess. I am not saying your Dr. is wrong, he could be right about prostrate cancer. ( a cancer men over 50 are more apt to get, it seem to be one of those aging diseases)

Lung cancer is a whole different thing and so is kidney cancer. I have had relatives die of lung cancer, all were heavy smokers, my grandfather was only 40 and barely had his birthday 3 weeks before he passed, my uncle was 56. (My dad's father and brother) Kidney cancer is strong in my family too, and all of them were smokers. You may had a gene that makes you more apt to have it, but my doctor told me, non smokers with these bad genes have less risk of getting those cancers, if they are not around second hand smoke. I am 60 plus and no cancer, I also do not smoke, neither does my husband.

The same goes for breast cancer, yes women may have inherited the bad gene, but if they are smokers or around second hand smoke, this increases their risk significantly.

So you see, it is not only about you, if your wife/daughter has inherited those genes, you could be causing THEM to get these cancers at some time in the future.You could be shortening THEIR life span.

So the kind thing for you to do, if you must have tobacco, is simply chew it, then you really are not hurting anyone but yourself.
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I guess you can come up with studies to support either side of the argument.
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