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Old June 13th, 2007, 09:24 AM
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What is classed as formal and casual smart dress? Is not a very smart casual dress bordering on formal? So what should I wear for formal nights on The Jewel and what on smart casual?
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Formal is a tuxedo, or dark suit for the men, with equivalent for the ladies.

Smart casual - has sort of lost its way. I think because of the terminology passengers get confused. They see the "casual" part of the term, and it seems the majority just read it to mean casual.

They are actually calling for a sport jacket and dress slacks for the men, with cocktail dresses or equivalent for the ladies... but the reality onboard these days is that probably 90% just dress casually on the smart casual nights.
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What's even more confusing is when a cruise line uses the term "Resort Casual".
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They are actually calling for a sport jacket and dress slacks for the men, with cocktail dresses or equivalent for the ladies... but the reality onboard these days is that probably 90% just dress casually on the smart casual nights.
I'm not familiar with Royal caribbean's prescription of dress, but... when did "smart casual" come to require a sport coat? On Celebrity, the evenings that require a sport coat (necktie now optional) are "informal" and Princess's definition of "smart casual" is exactly the same as that line's definition of "casual" before the change in designation -- just a shirt with the collar open.

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Here is what RCI sez about it ...

Q: What are the dress codes onboard?

A: There are three distinct types of evenings onboard: casual, smart casual and formal. Suggested guidelines for these nights are:

- Casual: Sport shirts and slacks for men, sundresses or pants for women
- Smart Casual: Jackets and ties for men, dresses or pantsuits for women
- Formal: Suits and ties or tuxedos for men, cocktail dresses for women

How well do they enfore it? That's a different subject.
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Here is what RCI sez about it ...

How well do they enfore it? That's a different subject.
Yes, unfortunately it is a very different subject
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Casual smart dress would be similiar to your own Employer's dress codes for work - Corporate casual.
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Corporate casual.
That varies from form to firm. One might mean a suit, but no tie. Another a sports jacket with no tie, and another is slacks with a polo shirt.

It is not a cast-in-stone definition that every firm follows.

When I worked on The Street, I ran into all three including a suit and tie.
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The last few cruises I have been on there was no smart casual anymore. There were two formal nights and the rest were all casual. They said that they were doing away with smart casual except on longer cruises and european cruises.

Yes, I know their website says that there are still smart casual nights on a seven day cruise, but there are not. This is the same company whose hold music still says that Freedom of the Seas is currently under construction. They are not known for updating information.
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They said that they were doing away with smart casual except on longer cruises and european cruises.
What is considered "longer cruises"? Anything over 7 days?
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They said that they were doing away with smart casual except on longer cruises and european cruises.
What is considered "longer cruises"? Anything over 7 days?
I can't remember, but I think it was on 10 day or longer, or 12 day or longer.
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The reason that I ask is that we have a 12 day Xmas/NYs cruise on RCI and that would eliminat packing a suit/jacket. I'll take the tux for the 3 formal nights.
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The reason that I ask is that we have a 12 day Xmas/NYs cruise on RCI and that would eliminat packing a suit/jacket. I'll take the tux for the 3 formal nights.
I am guessing that you will have smart casual. But it is hard to say. Try to find some people who do that cruise right before you and see if they had any. Our last 7 day had no smart casual nights at all.
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Gentlemen:

I've seen resort or smart casual go by the wayside on RCI cruises
for awhile now.

Believe me, in better shops, department stores, resort casual is
stylish casual clothes, many times silk or linen. Sundress or top with skirt
or slacks for the ladies, Open neck shirts, Tommy Bahama style
for men...If there is a sport coat, it is usually linen for warm climates.
I personally think of it as a "stylish" type of casual outfit that you would
wear to dinner in a 4 or 5 star resort.

Just my opinion, tho.
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I'll also chime in and agree that it does get confussing, most of the men don't bother packing a sport jacket for that night, just wear a nice shirt and slacks, pretty much like a casual evening. Same for the girls.
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I agree Donna, as that is the type of dress you now
normally see.
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Irish, very true! But around in this area, it pretty much holds water. Very few companies around here make you wear a tie anymore unless you are visiting clients or in any sort of big corporate meetings.

As one boss use to say (it was totally casual there, jean/sneakers), why should everyone dress up? We all know what everyone looks like.

But I still like dressing up in the dining room. It's fun to be sexy!
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At one firm, they went to the jeans and tennis shoes for a while. What happened is that some folks pushed the limit and wore shorts, flip-flops, and stuff like that. ..... The next move was back to the suit and tie!

As far as ship dress, I do abide to the dress of the day. However, I do wear shorts/jeans and a T-shirt for breakfast and lunch.
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