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We are Carnival people....or at least have been. My DH and I are considering taking a "re-enlistment" cruise and cannot decide what to do. We want to sail the southern or eastern Caribbean, we have sailed Western twice now and I have sailed the eastern previously with CCL.

I would LOVE to try RCCL but...I have to admit I am scared. I know this sounds ridiculous, but RCCL seems to have ALOT of passengers on thier ships, their pax capacity is much higher than CCL and I don't know if I can handle those kinds of numbers.

Please tell me I am paranoid...and is it worth the extra money?
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By all means, try Royal Caribbean. Wel have been on 21 cruises with RCI, and have never been intimidated by the number of passengers. The only time it seems crowded is during the muster drill (everyone trying to get to the sairway at the same time), and when we debark (crowds in the Centrum).

If you are put off by crowds, I wouldn't do the first RCI cruise on one of the Freedom class ships - they're really big. I would suggest you try one of the Radiance class ships - Radiance, Jewel, Brilliance, Serenade.

Oddly enough, we have the same fear of trying Carnival. Not the crowds, but just from what we've heard from others.
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Don't worry about the passenger capacity. I was recently on the Freedom Of The Seas with 4200 on board including over 850 kids! There was never a feeling of overcrowding, no long lines anywhere, and adults had their own pool and jacuzzi area. There is so much to do that you will forget about any of your concerns.
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RCL is a great value, especially after a couple of cruises with HAL. HAL is a super line but RCL proves you don't have to spend more.

Did the Liberty last year and was apprehensive about the size. Turned out to be no problem, but the suggestion for a Radiance class ship makes sense.

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Thanks guys! I am definatly excited about trying RCCL, I think we will focus on them for this one. So now...Eastern or Southern Caribbean??

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Have done Eastern and Southern. It is a toss up....but I think Southern is my favorite. Our cruise left out of San Juan and went to St. Thomas, St. Marteen, Antigua, St. Lucia and Barbados. Anitgua and St. Luicia were my favorites. This itinerary is very port intensive, meaning in port every day.
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I sail both RCI & Carnival; not to far apart; and I think you would enjoy a different type of decor on a ship (just for a change); try the Enchantment of the Seas; great size and never feels crowded except at lifeboat drill time (but every ship feels crowded at that time).
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If you compare comparable class of ship, same itinerary and category of cabin, I don't think you will find that much if any of a difference. I think RCI being more expensive is a misconception. I have made the comparisons many times.

As far as crowded goes, I think ,ost RCI ships have a great passenger to space ratio.

With all that being said, I have done 15 with RC and 1 Carnival and like where I am. 8)
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I would LOVE to try RCCL but...I have to admit I am scared.
Invest you money in Princess; forget about RCI.
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Invest you money in Princess; forget about RCI.
I think this may be the first time I've agreed with the "Irish Shark" but I too would suggest that you go Princess, or the Radiance class RCI ship. Forget about the BIG RCI ships, unless you are 25 years old, or have a bunch of kids that like to climb walls, ice skate, and do the flow rider thingy.

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I've done 6 RCI cruises and 1 Carnival. I enjoyed my Carnival cruise, but I will be sticking with RCI. I like the RCI ship layouts better, the activities, entertainment, and the RCI service. Carnival wins on cabin size and food quality though. The perks I get from RCI Crown and Anchor make it well worth my while to stick with RCI, and the really important things I look for on a cruise (activities and service) are better on RCI. Others will certainly have different prioirities than I do.

While I like the Radiance class, don't forget about the RCI Vision class ships! DTW will back me up on this.
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Ok...so I love the Southern Itin...is Adventure a good ship to start on? I know it is HUGE, the biggest ship we have been on is the Carnival Glory at 110,000. Plus we are looking at going in fall/winter...so it should not be too bad. Is RCCL better with thier loyalty program than CCL?
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Adventure is awesome and when you get back, you will say to yourself, "Why didn't I do Royal caribbean sooner?"

Size isn't everything but sometimes it is good.
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Roughly the same with a few small differences. When I mentioned the loyalty program, what I meant isn't the quality of the RCI program verses the quality of the Carnival program. What I mean is that regardless of what cruise line loyalty program you participate in, once you get up a couple of levels in any program, the perks you get from that makes it worthwhile to stick with that line as opposed to switching cruise lines and now going without the perks.

For example, on RCI I have 7 cruise credits which gets me a special departure lounge, additional money off balcony and higher level staterooms, better coupon books onboard and things like that which will get better as I advance in the program. Now, should I switch and go with Carnival on which I have only 1 cruise credit, my perks from the Carnival loyalty program will be much less than RCI for me personally. So for me, it makes sense to stick with RCI. For other people not far advanced in any particular cruise lines loyalty program, or far advanced in multiple cruise line loyalty program, than their situation is very different.
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A langett,

Here is some simple math for you.

Royal Caribbean Adventure of the Seas
Gross tonnage 138,000
passengers double occupancy 3114
Space ratio 44

Carnival Glory
Gross tonnage 110,000
passengers double occupancy 2974
Space ratio 37

Which ship is more crowded
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For some reason, when on any of the either Voyage or Freedom class Royal Caribbean ships, I've never felt that crowded feeling that I did on Carnival Glory, which was a much smaller ship. Every time we ate breakfast or lunch in the buffut on Carnival, always waiting in lines, same with getting off the ship in ports. That doesn't happen on these larger ships, don't know why, but I felt like I wasted so much time always waiting in lines??

I think you'll love Royal Caribbean, give it a shot and find out for yourself.
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I agree Donna. Both the Liberty and the Freedom had the most people, but were the least crowded of all the other ships I have been on. Strange, don't know how they do that ?
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I agree Donna. Both the Liberty and the Freedom had the most people, but were the least crowded of all the other ships I have been on. Strange, don't know how they do that ?
Passenger to space ratio............or everybody just hangs out in their cabin all the time.
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Thankful that I booked with RCI even though I didn't have a clue what I was doing at the time!

Can't wait for my first cruise and by reading all the posts so far, I do not think I will be dissappointed at all.
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Thanks guys! I am definatly excited about trying RCCL, I think we will focus on them for this one. So now...Eastern or Southern Caribbean??

Just came back from an eastern and western on Mariner from
Port Canaveral. We found the eastern nicer , few ports and more sea days (total 3.5 )

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DD, we did Mariner western last year and doing eastern this year. I also like more sea days. How was your cruise? I will be on board in 6 weeks. 8)
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the cruises where great. nice to get away from the ice and snow in the great white north(Canada). We like the eastern because of the number of
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I have to say I prefer the Southern Caribbean out of San Juan.. I love more ports...rather than more days at sea. I am a total beach bum, and prefer a beautiful beach to a pool on the ship...

Going out of Florida you will have at least 3 days at sea due to the distance to the Islands. From San Juan..at most you will have 2 days, and that is only on trips that go all the way to Aruba..

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In that case, you might want to buy a hundred shares of stock of Royal Caribbean International's parent company, Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. (NYSE: RCL), to qualify for the "shareholder benefit" (shipboard credit). As a stockholder, you can receive this credit as often as you cruise with Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises (except aboard MY Celebrity Xpedition), and Azamara Cruises. It's basically free money over and above the company's quarterly dividend and whatever capital gain you realize when you sell the shares. The documentation says that the benefit will expire on May Day, but the company has renewed annually for the past several years. For further information, there's also a FAQ about the shareholder benefit on the company's investor website.

BTW, you can hold the shares through an IRA, a Roth IRA, or a retirement plan sponsored by your company that you can invest in stocks, so long as your name appears as the beneficial owner on the account.

And here I should add the usual disclaimers that telling you about this shareholder benefit does not constitute a either solicitation to buy or an offer to sell shares of the company's stock, nor does it constitute a representation that this company's stock is an appropriate investment for persons in your financial situation. You should consult your broker, accountant, or other personal financial advisors for specific advice tailored to your circumstances.

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Yes, definitely!

Seriously, either itinerary would be great. Go wherever you get the better deal now, and save the other for another cruise!

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Oh my goodness!! I never imagined I would get this much help from the boards!! Thank you EVERYONE!!! Ok, I have done my research and narrowed it down to the southern caribbean...I did the Eastern Caribbean WAY back in 1998, but I love the mort port intensive itin...and my DH does too, he spent a 6 month deployment on a ship so he really does not enjoy sea days as much as the rest of us anymore.

It is down to the following two itins...

Adventure OTS in Oct 2008

San Juan
Aruba
Curacao
St. Maarten
St. Thomas

OR

Serenade OTS in Nov 2008

San Juan
St. Thomas
St. Johns
Antigua
St. Lucia
Barbaos
San Juan


HELP!!!!


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I have done both cruises, would have to say I prefer the Seranade of the Seas, the ship is raally nice. I like the slighly smaller class of ships, but have done both of these and you can't lose with either one..

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For more ports, it would be Serenade, which BTW is a lovely ship, very beautiful and will be quite relaxing...
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Serenade can't be beat with that line up of islands.
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I just got off of my b2b RCCL cruises. I was on the Navigator and then the Majesty.

To keep it short, while I enjoyed my cruises on RCCL, I prefer Carnival.

However it really depends on what you want on a cruise. These two companies offer similar but very different products. Because I have done so many Carnival cruises, I was able to see the little things that RCCL lacked and the little things that RCCL did just a bit better than Carnival.

If you want an upbeat, festive, fun experience with lots of passenger comraderie, then Carnival is the way to go.

If want a more private experience where you and your significant other can enjoy your cruise without feeling pressured to intermingle and join the group events, then RCCL wins out.

Overall Carnival's food is better but RCCL desserts are better.

RCCL service is more formal but less willing to cater to passengers whereas Carnival's service can sometimes be questionable but "rules can always be bent for a passenger."

RCCL drinks are more expensive but larger.

RCCL crew seem happier than the crew on Carnival ships. Carnival seems to draw their crew from Asia, Indonesia and South America whereas RCCL draws from the Caribbean and Eastern European countries.

RCCL will nickel and dime you to death. The little things that Carnival throws in for free come with a hefty price on RCCL. (i.e., toiletries, aspirin, meds, etc.)

Passengers on Carnival are much more friendly and engaging.

Carnival works to group people in their dining room based on common criteria. RCCL seems to just throw people together with no thought to who is sitting with whom.

Carnival seems to want to enhance their solo cruiser's experience while RCCL seems to tolerate the solo cruiser.

If doing the Southern Caribbean, both the Destiny and the AOTS have similar ratings and reports. If you want to experience RCCL, then go for it.

It is really depends on an individual's tastes and expectations.
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