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Old August 4th, 2009, 11:23 AM
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Good article from Travel Weekly...

Actually, I think it's a necessary pain - and don't mind at all. Fifteen - Twenty minutes out of our first day is worth it for safety's sake!

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I think it's a great idea. Doesn't it make more sense to have the lifejackets with the life boats? The hallways aren't wide enough for people rushing to their cabins in a panic to retrieve lifejackets. Someone's bound to get hurt.

I say Try it, see how it works. If it doesn't then go back to the old way.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 12:58 PM
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Considering they tell you that in the event of a real emergency, if you are NOT in the cabin, do NOT go back, go right to the muster station, I think it makes sense.

Funny, on CCL though they tell you that if you hear the abandon ship signal, to go back and get your jackets...let me tell you...i am NOT going to waste time running against the flow of traffic BACK to the cabin...there best be extra PFDs near the lifeboats....

I don't mind boat drill...I just wish that each line had actual instructions (not just some vague directions) for those who are mobility impaired....
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life jackets on the life boats? great idea.
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I'm all for safety drills, but to stand in the Miami heat, wrapped in one of those jackets,packed together, while all the stragglers make their way there..... I had to go inside last time or pass out... I much prefer Princess cruise line's method, which was to assemble all the passengers in an air conditioned lounge, deliver all the same instructions, but in much greater comfort.. you can actually see and hear the person giving the information.
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good point mate!

actually on serenade i think, our muster station was in a lounge i think.....

and on our CCL cruise, after they moved us 3 times on deck, someone moved us (mom in a WC) into a lounge, but it was total chaos from what i could see outside...and the CD or whomever made the announcement talked WAYYYYYY too much.......you need to convey the info, but not in such a verbose manner!

he was REALLY losing people!
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Hi, let me tell you when I was on the RCL Song of America in 1988, the third night out, there was a fire in the engine room, the captain came on and said, "there is a fire in the engine room, please get your life jackets on and go to the life boat stations, this ain't no joke," after that the alarms sounded and we all got to our stations. Before leaving the cabin, i grabbed my life jacket, and camera and left the cabin, the room steward past by me and said, its ok stay by your cabin door, I thought forget you, the captain said otherwise, and on the way up to the life boat stations, i took pictures, cuz who would ever believe it? No injuries were reported, had to cancel the cruise and go back to Miami, but we got a letter from Rcl, that said if you want a full refund, go see your travel agent, or if, you want to take another cruise, go see your travel agent. Five months later, was back on another cruise, so YES the drill muster plan is IMPORTANT. I still have those pictures today and I'm still cruising today.

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I have to agree with the heat, the closeness of the people, and, almost fainting......Princess does it so much better...
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I honestly don't exacly love doing the drill, but it could be a life saver just taking a few minutes of your time. I know when I board the ship, the last thing I want to do is the muster drill, but well worth the time. You'll still have a week to enjoy all the ship has to offer along with the ports you'll be visiting.
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I honestly don't exacly love doing the drill, but it could be a life saver just taking a few minutes of your time. I know when I board the ship, the last thing I want to do is the muster drill, but well worth the time. You'll still have a week to enjoy all the ship has to offer along with the ports you'll be visiting.
It's not a matter of taking up my time, or not appreciating the seriousness of the drill, I am very safety conscious particularly when traveling- it is more about making it an experience that is physically tolerable in heat and humidity. I don't know what standing outside does that sitting in comfort inside can not accomplish.
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Hi Mate,
I've had some where our muster station is in the dining room, that was not bad at all.
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In a word,,,YES! I too agree that Princess has the right idea. Assemble in an air conditioned lounge, with seats for everyone,,,,deliver the speach,,,,then go to the lifeboats to see where they are. No standing in the HOT SUN on a 95 degree Miami day!


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There actually is an issue of not assembling where you would go in an actual emergency. You should always practice/train to what you would actually have to do while in an emergency. If adrenaline is running people tend to go into remote control.

One very tragic proof of this behavior are the LA cops (sometime in the 1970s I believe) who were involved in a shoot out. At that time, the standard firearm for most police were revolvers - meaning 6 shots and a reload is required. Both of the cops were killed in the shoot out. When their bodies were retrieved, they discovered several empty shell casings in the front shirt pockets of both men.
The police range that they practiced at had a rule that no shell casings were to be left on the ground. Result: in training the cops always emptied their chambers into their hands and pocketed the casings. It was concluded that this behavior cost them critical time and most likely their lives.

That being said -- Celebrity Infinity did assemble and startthe basic instruction in the casino/lounge area. We then moved out to the actual muster stations for a short additional bit of instruction.
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I remember in the Navy when we had General Quarters (we'll say this is the equivalent of having a real muster on a cruise ship, with passengers going to their cabins to get the jackets). We had rules. If you had to go aft or down you used the port side. Those going forward or to higher decks used the starboard side passageways. That simply wouldn't happen on a cruise ship. And then how many will take the opportunity of going to their cabin to pack a bag? I've read too many reports of idiots on airplanes which have crashed trying to get their carry-on before exiting.

On the Celebrity Equinox last week our muster drill was inside, ala Princess. No jackets. My station was the main showroom. Sat down and watched a video of the process, then the crew in charge pointed out our exit paths. Drill over.

A drill should be about passing on important information and keeping people's attention. Both are diminished by standing around like sardines in a life jacket. I did have a young girl faint in front of me on a Miami cruise once. We caught her before she hit the deck.
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Yes, the drill is a pain,but,as Triton says "a necessary pain". I cringe to think what would happen if we did not have this drill and an emergency came up and no one knew where to go or what to do. It would be a chaotic mess. I totally agree that the way Princess handles the drill is great!
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So, the drills are all right as long they don’t inconvenience anyone or cause you to stand around in a crowd. Personally, I think I would like to experience actually properly putting on a life jacket in a slightly chaotic setting rather than sitting in a lounge watching a movie of someone else doing it. I think that would be much better preparation in the case of a real emergency. Just my opinion.
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I don't think anyone is really saying that we don't want to know exactly what to do, in God forbid, a serious situation. On Princess, we had our jackets on. On any ship, I have cruised, I have seen the crew fixing or showing someone the correct way to put on the jacket, if they have done it wrong. Then go to the muster station, to see where yours is.

Having it in the theater, on a screen,and with speakers, to my mind, has more people paying attention, rather than the usually claustraphobic stifling heat, and close proximity of others.
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I've cruised 7 times and on my second to last cruise we fell asleep prior to the drill and the crew never opened the door. I hear him knocking but I was so tired that I couldn't move or speak to open the door.

When we finally woke up, 8pm we made it our business to find out where our muster station was just in case.

I don't suggest this but; RCCL made us sign a paper saying that we missed the drill.

I think for experienced cruisers the muster drill is sort of a waste of time but to know your way to your lifeboat is important.
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I don't consider it a pain to attend the muster drill, if there is ever a problem onboard I think we will all be glad the cruise lines have this mandatory drill. Yes it gets a little mundane for those of us that are experienced cruisers, but I always take the camera to the drill and get pics of my hubby and kids and we try to make the drill a little more enjoyable and the pics have become some of my favorite. The drill also signals the beginning of another wonderful cruise vacation experience and its exciting knowing that even if you have been wandering the ship for a few hours already that when the muster drill happens that means the ship is ready to leave port. Its all about attitude I have seen alot of grumps at the drill and others like myself that take pics or strike up conversations with others and make it a pleasurable as possible.
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