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Old January 12th, 2010, 04:29 PM
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Royal Caribbean has taken up where Carnival left off. They will be hosting a "Cougar Cruise" on the Mariner of the Seas, May 16-23 cruise.

Last month a singles travel company did a "Cougar Cruise" on Carnival but Carnival has opted to no longer have such events on their ships.

The reasons for Carnival not allowing "Cougar Cruises" are sketchy and no one has really come forward to say.

I bet Royal Caribbean is hoping to tap into this market and become the new "Cougar Den".

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Too bad Mariner left Port Canaveral!
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When the Mariner was ported at Canaveral we sailed it a couple of times.
We're scheduled to sail it 2 weeks after this "cougar cruise"-hope they have the mess cleaned up by then.
Wish they would change the names from Cougar cruises to Sex Marathon Week with a cigar for the stud of the week!!
I personally feel this is a little low for a family oriented cruise line-- apparently even Carnival seemed to find something about it that they weren't happy with.
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The Cougar Cruise sounds like a private event that an agency/group is sponsoring by "chartering" the ship. The cruise line is not selling tickets to this sailing; this is no different than any other organization chartering a ship for a theme cruise.
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Wonder how it would come across to the public in general if a group of 50-60-70 yr old men Calling themselves the " Tom Cats " did this with a group of young ladies 18-25 yr old?? Sounds like fun fun fun to me !!!
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I'm pretty open minded but I think it's pretty tacky. If I was traveling with kids, I'd kind of hate to have to explain to them what the cougar meet and greet posted in the daily cruise intinerary was lol. Carnival obviously left a bad impression with some people with the whole concept and/or it wasn't profitable enough for them to arrange special on-board get togethers, excursions or whatever. Even though it got the media all energized, I'm guessing those were some factors.

I think most people have this image of very attractive younger males meeting very attractive older females during these events...If anybody has seen footage of the cougar conventions, cruises etc, you'll see that isn't quite the case (for either the men or women). The guys look a little shell shocked when reality doesn't quite match the image they had lol.
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I think the circumstance here is that the ship is chartered for a "Cougar Cruise"; I did not take away the impression that this would be an event onboard Mariner while general paying passengers (unaware of the group) were going onboard. Therefore, I don't think anyone would have to explain to their kids what a Cougar is as you'd know this before purchasing the sailing via the agency that chartered the vessel.
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That brings up a good ? How would one know when booking a cruise that there are large groups onboard as well. Shouldn't there be some way knowing so you can decide if that is a sailing you want to be on? I'm pretty much open minded and have been on ships with big groups, didn't lessen the cruise expierence for me in the least, but one like this if it gets out of control?
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I think the circumstance here is that the ship is chartered for a "Cougar Cruise"; I did not take away the impression that this would be an event onboard Mariner while general paying passengers (unaware of the group) were going onboard. Therefore, I don't think anyone would have to explain to their kids what a Cougar is as you'd know this before purchasing the sailing via the agency that chartered the vessel.
You might be right, but I thought it was just a specialty group that had some activities etc designed specifically for it while on a regular cruise. If I heard the news right (and if they were even reporting accurately) I thought they said Carnival only had about 300 people participating in its cougar event. It looks like it would have cost a fortune for a group to charter a cruise with that few of people. Alot of people on here have alot of Carnival expertise...Maybe they can tell us.
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I really don't think it is a full-ship charter - Mariner is a far bigger ship than the original Cougar cruise, which was not a full-ship charter, and I am betting this cougar cruise will be smaller because I didn't hear anything good about it afterwards.

Besides, looking on a cruise site I see I can book that date on Mariner myself as a regular, non-cougar, passenger.

How much does anybody want to bet they CANCEL the cougar group cruise before the ship sails - not Royal Caribbean, but the sponsors? But they will probably blame on Royal Caribbean.

Any speculation on what happened on the first one to turn Carnival off? Too many cat fights, screeching in the night?
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I really don't think it is a full-ship charter - Mariner is a far bigger ship than the original Cougar cruise, which was not a full-ship charter, and I am betting this cougar cruise will be smaller because I didn't hear anything good about it afterwards.

Besides, looking on a cruise site I see I can book that date on Mariner myself as a regular, non-cougar, passenger.

How much does anybody want to bet they CANCEL the cougar group cruise before the ship sails - not Royal Caribbean, but the sponsors? But they will probably blame on Royal Caribbean.

Any speculation on what happened on the first one to turn Carnival off? Too many cat fights, screeching in the night?
I doubt it was due to rowdy behavior. If that were the case, they wouldn't let any spring breakers on board lol.

As I posted earlier, I think it just came down to (probably) a combination of it not being taken as tasteful by family oriented passengers and also probably wasn't worth it to them financially...With an emphasis on the financial end of it. Whatever happened, it probably revolved around drink sales or bingo lol.
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That brings up a good ? How would one know when booking a cruise that there are large groups onboard as well. Shouldn't there be some way knowing so you can decide if that is a sailing you want to be on? I'm pretty much open minded and have been on ships with big groups, didn't lessen the cruise expierence for me in the least, but one like this if it gets out of control?
Donna, as I'm sure you know this is one of the major questions asked by cruiser's and one of the most unlikely to be answered. The cruise lines are not going to answer for a couple of reasons. The privacy issue would be one, and the chance that people would see a large group with which they don't agree and then would cancel would be another.

Like you, I'm very open minded, but if a large group was taking up "my" space during the cruise (lounges, theater, buffet, pools, etc.) it would bother me.

As far as the cougar cruises, I guess I'm really out of the loop ! I do know what "cougar's" are, but it never occured to me that there would be enough organization to book a group cruise!
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Picture this--- Granny Cougar stalks and scores on a young " cub " and takes him back to her den for a night of --- well, fun. The next morning the " cub " wakes up and rolls over and gets a better look at Granny Cougar-- her false eyelashes are off, her hairpiece is either off or askew-- part of her false nails are missing, her upper denture is out and her make up is a disaster.
He thinks to himself--MY GOD-- how do I get out of her before she wakes up and wants a morning workout!! --- she then wakes up and smiles slyly at him and motions for him to come back---
Now-- as I mentioned earlier, if a group of old men-50-60-70 yrs. old were on a cruise called the " Tomcats " with a group of 18-25 yr.old females, it would be a national disgrace once the media , etc. got wind of it.
Seriously, if cruiselines are going to participate in this sort of thing, they should have to announce it to the public, especially people with kids, so they know up front what's going to be going on on their particular cruise.
I think it's unbecoming a major line that bills itself as a family line to participate in these sort of cruises.
By the way- If anyone organizes a "Tomcat" cruise, please let me know!
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we should let it die a natural death..if it does not work financially for the promoter of the event on the Radiance next october, we won't see it again in the future

I do understand the promoter hired Dave The Wave to handle the advance publicity for the event and do pre cruise interviews and attend cougar sponsored events across the country
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I say ( let the Cougars have fun ).

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That brings up a good ? How would one know when booking a cruise that there are large groups onboard as well. Shouldn't there be some way knowing so you can decide if that is a sailing you want to be on? I'm pretty much open minded and have been on ships with big groups, didn't lessen the cruise expierence for me in the least, but one like this if it gets out of control?
A couple of summers ago there were lots of complaints on the other board about various groups, not too family friendly, who had venues closed off to other pax and it really impacted their cruises- and people were asking how to find out if a chartered group was booked on your sailing. It came down to Google searching by just putting your ship, sailing date and lots were surprised what came up. I was one of them- an ultra conservative religious group were selling the cruise - what I wanted to know was, would venues be closed to us, would they have the casino/bars/bingo stopped, things that would affect me. I went to their website, got details about the cruise and emailed to ask how many members had signed up for the cruise. There were around 300. We were sailing on FOS which is around 3000 pax so when I heard that I thought no more of it and by the time we sailed had forgotten it.
I think that's about all you can do. I called RCCL initially but they wouldn't say- said groups are onboard all the time without anyone being aware of it.
That may be true, but there are groups and there are groups.....
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I say ( let the Cougars have fun ).

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I don't really care too much who is onboard as long as there is decorum in public places. I think I've been on a couple of Sugar Daddy cruises, :o it seemed like it to me. Old geezers with young(ish) women who they plainly were not married to.. as long as no one does anything disruptive what does it matter? Maybe they should not sell them in peak school vacation time, that might be a reasonable compromise.
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When I started reading this thread I was a complete blank on Cougar (other that the wild cat.)

I think I have a bit of an idea but could someone tell me - what is a cougar in this context?
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A cougar is a 'older' predatory woman, who is only interested in young stud muffins.
From what I hear.....
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Thank you for that explanation. You certainly made me laugh. Heck I see them on every cruise!!!
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It used to always be the opposite, the older man with the younger woman, now its turned around a bit.
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but thanks to modern science, the older man younger woman combination is making a huge comeback
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Buy stock in - well it got bleeped so I will self edit- a certain very popular drug, some call Vitamin V..
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