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Was told from some friends that on a Q and A on board the VOS they where told by the cruise director that RCI charges $3.75 per person per day for TV service in your room for channels like cnn, fox news, weather channel etc. I figured there was some sort of fee but was surprised to here it was that much per day. I would think that most cruiser's don't go on a cruise to watch TV so i wonder if someday you can opt out of having that turned on in your room at all? For a example on a 7 day cruise you could pay $52.50 for 2 people in a stateroom just for TV?? So i was just curious what you all thought about it.
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RCCL does not charge for TV channels in your stateroom. I have never in all my years cruising with RCCL had a service charge for TV channels in my stateroom. They might have been talking about the after midnight room service charge. As i recall, the channels on RCCL ships include CNN International, ESPN, TNT, HLN, Cartoon Network, they also play movies and closed circuit TV as well.
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I'm sure this is not happening. Sounds more like gratuity or after hours room service. Charging a daily rate for TV would like them into more trouble than when they removed benefits. I would say you would see one heck of a lot of TV sitting in the hallway.

Mine sure would.........................................
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Never paid for TV on RCCL or any other cruise line. The only TV charge I know of is for pay per view movies....
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Same here...never heard of a TV charge. But what is new is the fee for after hours room service.
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I don't think this is the case either. The only TV that they charged for along with all the other cruiselines, is the pay for view shows, about the same as at home on your cable channels.
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Sorry to say but its already charged to your stateroom when you book your cruise... Its not on your seapass account but already like i said fiqured in with the cost of your cruise. I assure you this is happening on all rccl ship's....
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so do you get your satellite service at home for free? They are not going to get that service for free like i said they just roll it in to the overall price you pay per person for the day's you are on board...
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Same here...never heard of a TV charge. But what is new is the fee for after hours room service.

Mouse, so what time does the "after" hours fee start for room service. Just wondering
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There is no way RCL charges for TV. You may pay $700 base for your cruise. Where they assign those $$ is whatever but there is not way there is a charge for using the TV (or not using it). I believe you friend was absolutely wrong on that one.
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Sorry to say but its already charged to your stateroom when you book your cruise... Its not on your seapass account but already like i said fiqured in with the cost of your cruise. I assure you this is happening on all rccl ship's....
In your original post, I read your post to mean you meant an EXTRA $3.95 was being charged for TV service in the cabin. Of course the TV, along with all the other basic services you use and receive on your cruise, are covered under the cruisefare you pay just to be on the cruise. That is true on EVERY cruiseline, not just RCCL. If your question is how can you get this deleted from your cruisefare, there is just no way. No cruiseline is going to start deleting TV service in the cabin in exchange for a lower cruisefare. If they started down that road, that is a slippery slope to bankruptcy for the cruiseline. "Can I cruise cheaper if I promise to only eat 2 meals a day, take 1 shower every 2 days, and not swim in the pool?"
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ya i was surprised that the cruise director even mentioned it in the q and Q during a at sea day. But i guess it makes sense that you end up paying for it somehow. I guess i was not asking to have it deleted just to say that its just something that you pay for just like your stateroom, food etc.

Im sorry to say felix_the_cat but you could not be more wrong. I assure you this is happening i can say that you are absolutely wrong on this one.. Sorry Can you explain how rccl can get sat TV for free then?



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In your original post, I read your post to mean you meant an EXTRA $3.95 was being charged for TV service in the cabin. Of course the TV, along with all the other basic services you use and receive on your cruise, are covered under the cruisefare you pay just to be on the cruise. That is true on EVERY cruiseline, not just RCCL. If your question is how can you get this deleted from your cruisefare, there is just no way. No cruiseline is going to start deleting TV service in the cabin in exchange for a lower cruisefare. If they started down that road, that is a slippery slope to bankruptcy for the cruiseline. "Can I cruise cheaper if I promise to only eat 2 meals a day, take 1 shower every 2 days, and not swim in the pool?"
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If the cruise director did say this he was speaking foolishly. Nothing in life is free and the cruise lines know to the penny how much each item that is included in your cruise fare costs them.

They also "charge you" for the free dining room food, and they know to the penny how much they spend on food. The cruise director could have told you that figure, or how much he gets paid per passenger as well, but he didn't elucidate.

This is not the same thing as saying they add it to the base cruise fare, however. It is just one of many things they include in the cruise which they know the cost for, but they do not itemize on the final bill.

So, in this sense EVERY cruise line charges you for satellite television, and on some lines it may be a different amount, but it is not an added service fee.

The additional $3.95 room service charge applies from midnight to 5:00 a.m. - and that is for any amount of food you want delivered, but I believe it is per visit.
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RCCL does not charge anything additionally for use of the TV - just returned yesterday and no such thing occured. The cruise director may have been making a joke or the individual missunderstood. As far as the comment relating to paying for it; it's part of your cruise fare along with everything else they include. Attempting to make a statement about it not being free, someone is paying for it -- really silly to say as how the line allocates the cost of your cruise fare to their fixed costs is something their finance/accounting department deals with -- truely not something you as a passenger should be concerned with.
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Sorry to say but its already charged to your stateroom when you book your cruise... Its not on your seapass account but already like i said fiqured in with the cost of your cruise. I assure you this is happening on all rccl ship's....
Well for that matter they charge you for the use of your blankets, too. They don't put it on the seapass ... but it's in there.

Oh, and the window latches? You pay every time you open a portal.

And don't even ask about using the head!

Oh sure, they don't put it on the bill ... but they just roll every flush right into the cost of the cruise.
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The group of men, sitting in their Royal Caribbean office in Miami, has figured everything down to the chocolates on your pillow..Oh wait, I think they subtracted that expense..!! That ends up being the cruise fare we pay...

If they decided to tack on an extra per day expense, I for one, who does watch the int'l news, and falls asleep to the tv, would be bummed;(
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Mouse, so what time does the "after" hours fee start for room service. Just wondering
I remember seeing it on our daily newsletter, I think it was 12:00am...we didn't pay to much attention 'cause we never use room service that late...but I do remember the charge catching my eye as unusual.

Oh and btw: on our last RCCL cruise there were NO chocolates on the pillows!
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Amazing how some people can get things so screwed up--usually because they don't read the info. or don't listen to an announcement that's being made. RCCL doesn't charge you for watching t.v.unless you surf through the menu and pick out a " pay -per-view " movie or movies. RCCL isn't the only cruise line who does this--I think they all do.
If you want to get too technical, I guess there's those who would say that you're charged so much every time the toilet is flushed.
You book a cruise, it costs X dollars and you get X services so yes, you pay.
But you don't have to pay to turn on the t.v. and watch the normal channels-- again, if you choose the pay-per-view, it's exactly like it says--you pay. Don't rent the movies and you won't have to pay--pretty simple.
Yes, they have in recent months added a small fee for late night room service-- people brought this upon themselves-- kids ordering at all hours of the night and wasting food, drunks coming in at 2-3 4- a.m and ordering room service, then flopping down and passing out. Then the room service waiter walks half a mile through corridors carrying a tray, tries to discreetly tap on the door, can't get anyone to the door without waking up half the ship, carries a tray of food back the other way half a mile , all for nothing.
The charge is very nominal for those who use it and on the other hand, who needs to be eating at 2-3 a.m. anyway? I don't blame RCCL for adding a small charge for the wasted food. In my opinion, if someone orders food at 3 a.m. and it's delivered and the waiter can't get a response at the cabin, the charge should be added on the sail / sign card anyway.
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Well if that is the case and the cruiselines are adding All the costs and expenses for the cabin into the cruise rate then the all inclusive and hotels must be doing the same.
They need to stay in business and make a profit. The hotel chains must tally up what the expenses are for a room (water, lighting, tv, maid, washing sheets/bedding) and come up with a rate.

Cruiselines and hotels are not in business to give things away they need to make a profit to survive.
And yes we are seeing some cost cutting with the cruiselines however the rates have never been this low. Spring break cruises going for $499. is unheard of they used to be at least $899. and up.

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ya i was surprised that the cruise director even mentioned it in the q and Q during a at sea day. But i guess it makes sense that you end up paying for it somehow. I guess i was not asking to have it deleted just to say that its just something that you pay for just like your stateroom, food etc.

Im sorry to say felix_the_cat but you could not be more wrong. I assure you this is happening i can say that you are absolutely wrong on this one.. Sorry Can you explain how rccl can get sat TV for free then?
Not going to beat up on you as you obviously don't get how the billing is arrived at. I am right though and there is absolutely no "extra" charge for the TV. Your friend either wasn't listening properly or the CD was making a stupid remark - and I'm inclined to think it was a bit of both.

Of course you pay to for the TV whether you turn in on or not, just as you pay for every single thing from the minute you book the cruise prior to getting on board. To seperate it in the manner you have done is just plan silly. Every tiny little bit has a $ value on it - that's done before the cruise dates are released.

How RCL gets the TV satellite, food, personal etc is how they do their business. You/your friend are trying to break out one extremely tiny part of the whole and it just can't be done.

The TV is not an extra charge - it is part of the whole.
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I was simply just trying to explain to people what some of the little things that add up in your whole cruise price, and that its just not your stateroom and food etc. This is not quote silly its just simple fact that i was wondering if everyone knew about it. First of the CD was just trying to say what is included in your over all cruise fare and my brother in law was listening properly and this is what was said. just accept it and move on. Read your own remarks they don't even make sense. You say you don't pay then turn around and say you do.. I never said rather it was right or wrong or that i even had a problem with it, just trying to bring up a point that's all.

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Ya i heard that you don't receive chocolates anymore that where really good. I'm not sure if every cruise line did that or not. Midnight is pretty late so i would think that for most people it would not be a big deal. Nothing better then getting room service at night before bed and sit out on your balcony and listen to the sea.. Very relaxing!! O well like you said just a goodie to bite the dust.. O well!

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I remember seeing it on our daily newsletter, I think it was 12:00am...we didn't pay to much attention 'cause we never use room service that late...but I do remember the charge catching my eye as unusual.

Oh and btw: on our last RCCL cruise there were NO chocolates on the pillows!
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Maybe what you MEANT to say was, "I heard from someone that if you broke down the whole bill, the approximate cost of a TV in a stateroom comes out to be about $3.50 per day."

I think people might have understood the point you were trying to make.

But you did start a thread that basically said "You are being charged $3.50 per day to have a TV in your stateroom."

I hope you can see the subtle different in those two sentences.
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Ya i heard that you don't receive chocolates anymore that where really good. I'm not sure if every cruise line did that or not.
We were just on Celebrity, and we got the chocolates each night. We were in a Concierge Class cabin, so that may have been one of our "perks".
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If you really want to dig into this subject in detail you should watch the CNBC special "Cruise Inc." which is a 1 hour documentary produced by Peter Greenberg.

You should be able to catch it on the CNBC web site in the "videos" section. He takes an NCL cruise and breaks down every single cost and shows how each department knows their costs, break-even points and how much they need to make each day to be profitable.

This is a solidly run industry - close $40-billion/year now. They know exactly what they are doing.

The reason I said the cruise director was making a "silly" statement is because they generally don't want misinformation to go out. The term "they charge you" for the TV service in your room is a bit misleading. But I realize cruise directors say technically incorrect things like this all the time.
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so do you get your satellite service at home for free? They are not going to get that service for free like i said they just roll it in to the overall price you pay per person for the day's you are on board...
I pay for water and trash pickup, too, but I expect that is included in my fare on the ship!

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