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bonnyprincecharlie February 12th, 2012 02:21 PM

Why is Allure better than Oasis?
 
Why is Allure better than Oasis? They are sister ships but they offer different venues that make the Allure superior.
Allure has the show "Chicago" performed with vigor, energy and high drama. Oasis has "Hairsrpray" it lacks all of the aforementioned qualities of "Chicago."
Allure has a spectacular, breathtaking multimedia stage show that has not gotten the attention and praise it deserves. Oasis, by comparison, has a low-cost, stage production. A nice effort, but not even close to the breathtaking Allure production.
Allure has hotdogs. Not just hotdogs but a variety of exotic hotdogs. It is a hot dog feast. Oasis has doughnuts, but they are no match for the Allure hotdogs.
Just wanted to let anyone know who might be considering a cruise on these resort ships what they might keep in mind when making reservations.

Manuel February 12th, 2012 06:00 PM

I have been on both ships and enjoyed them on an equal basis.

TM

bonnyprincecharlie February 13th, 2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Manuel (Post 1415132)
I have been on both ships and enjoyed them on an equal basis.

TM

Through my original email I was pointing out reasons why cruisers should choose the Allure over the Oasis for a first cruise on either of these resort ships. If after the first cruise they want to cruise on the Oasis they can. Overall, I would say it would be difficult not to have a pleasant cruise on either ship. However, I strongly feel that it is important that the Cruisemate internet site be used as an information source to inform fellow cruisers of positives and negatives of individual ships and ports. Your response that " I have been on both ships and enjoyed them both" does not add information to the reader's knowledge base. Information to help them make a value-based judgement based on sound information gained from experience. This is important for some cruisers if they only have money for one cruise or it is the first cruise they will make on one of these ships. The best choice in either case, would be the Allure. I think that the reasons I gave for the superiority of the Allure over the Oasis are sound and would help cruisemates make the correct decision to book passage on the Allure. Don't you agree with this logic?

Donna February 13th, 2012 08:35 PM

I find it difficult to imagine the entertainment being as good on Oasis, but having only been on Allure, they both may have excellent shows. It has to be very hard to top the shows on Allure. Now, I wonder if they, after a time, just switch the show from one ship to the other?

seadog2 February 13th, 2012 08:51 PM

I have been on both the Oasis and the Allure. Both ships are very beautiful and I would sail on both again. My personal preference though is the Allure. I say this for two reasons,1) The "Big Kid" in me enjoyed Dreamworks and 2) On the Oasis we had a Jr. Suite which was very nice and plenty big enough for me and my DW but on the Allure we had a Crown Loft Suite and man was it nice.

Donna February 14th, 2012 06:38 AM

I too loved all the Dreamworks characters onboard Allure...For some reason, I thought they had the same on Oasis??

bonnyprincecharlie February 14th, 2012 05:41 PM

Holy Cow, I plum forgot about Wonder Works and all those great characters. They do make the Allure a fun place. Thanks for the added reason to go on the Allure.

bonnyprincecharlie February 18th, 2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donna (Post 1415302)
I find it difficult to imagine the entertainment being as good on Oasis, but having only been on Allure, they both may have excellent shows. It has to be very hard to top the shows on Allure. Now, I wonder if they, after a time, just switch the show from one ship to the other?

According to performers from the Oasis. Shows like "Chicago" and "Hairspray" are not interchangeable between ships because of contracts with creators. The contracts also specify a set period of time for the show to run on a ship. The performers also pointed out that cruisers who saw the show on the Allure would not want to see the same show on the Oasis. This is pretty sound thinking. I was surprised when I was on the Epic that they did have a "Chicago" minishow in the bar which I would think required some kind of contract just as when they have Abba night on the Epic they must have a music rights contract.

Snoozeman February 18th, 2012 03:08 PM

All the more reason to move the Oasis. With both sailing from same port we get minutia comparisons. They do need to move her to Galveston.

bonnyprincecharlie February 18th, 2012 06:16 PM

I heard that they RCL maybe planning to run one of these resort ships through the Panama Canal as soon as work is done on its expansion. This would make a neat east coast west coast transit and pull one of them out of the Carribean island circuit.

Snoozeman February 18th, 2012 06:39 PM

Oasis is rumored to go to Galveston in fall of 2013.

I doubt it would ever go to the west coast...they can't even support a Voyager class ship.

The new canal transit would be a great trip out of Galveston or wherever.

JQH February 20th, 2012 04:16 PM

How was the aqua show on the Allure?

We have been on Oasis and have Allure booked for this fall.. the "oasis of dreams" was the best show ever and I am hoping for the same on the Allure.

Also, seafood shack vs rita's cantina? The seafood shack was a horrible experience for us.. so greasy, too forever for our food (and they weren't even busy) and then they messed up our order and our waitress was never around. Anyway, when we go on the Allure we will have our 13 month old with us and I am a little concerned the party aspect of this restaurant.

TIA!

Donna February 20th, 2012 08:14 PM

Be sure to see the water show, so worth it, totally amazing....

bonnyprincecharlie February 21st, 2012 01:27 PM

I saw your other posting concerning your concerns for your 13 month old. And I would suggest that you are going to have to find time for yourselves because of the great shows and dinner opportunities, that you should check RCL about babysitting services.
Alternative is to pay a relative to travel with you. Babysitters will be cheaper.

I agree with Donna that the water show is great. Watch the performers preshow on tv to get insight into what they do prior to perfroming. It is most interesting. If you qualify for the Conceigre Lounge you might want to spend some time there with the little one because you can watch and enjoy activities such as the Water Show, enjoy a meal or beverages and you do not have to go outside with the child

I am concerned that the Hot Dog stand may be gone. I have not heard anybody talking about it and RCL may have cut it out. You may want to check RCL about its status.

I was in FTL waiting to board the Allure when I witnessed a couple with a young baby The husband looking like a pack mule trying to lug all of the baby carryon stuff - diapers, etc.. The poor guy even had to - repack the baby stuff - on the sidewalk. He left behind a carton and a pop can that had burst open. I felt sorry for him because I figured that this is the kind of event that can lead to marriages being broken up. Lesson learned pack as much as possible and put aboard as luggage before you go on ship.This is one of those something to remember items that you forget while you are making those must have purchases.

I stopped in Nassau, Bahamas for the first time in January of this year. I walked around the town to get a feel for it. I found it to be a typical Caribbean island. I found that it was good place to buy souveniers as a last stop on the cruise= tshirts three for ten bucks. Especially when in St. Martens and St. Johns they three for fifteen or more. It does have for pay taxis and buses that will take you out to the Gambling casino on the island which you can get into for free but the rest of the attractions are paid. I'll let others explain to you what they are.

Hope this is helpful.

timesawastin February 22nd, 2012 03:16 PM

Chocolate breakfast one more reason for Allure over Oasis
 
On Allure they had Chocolate breakfast a couple of times. On Oasis they had it once.

Chuck1950 May 22nd, 2012 05:52 PM

Both ships are fantastic. Some things to keep in mind the Oasis leaves on Saturday and the Allure on Sunday. Once you and your group decide on shows, specialty restaurants, and excursions be sure to book online in advance or you may be standing in the standby line for shows hoping there are seats available.

EMG May 24th, 2012 09:30 AM

Which ship is better is based on preference for instance; I don't care for chocolate so chocolate breakfast doesn't mean much to me. I also don't care for Chicago so that wouldn't matter either. If those are the criteria for what makes one ship better than the other, those criteria don't hold a lot of weight.

In the span of 2 years I would hope that any business relaunching a product would be able to improve on the original and over that time, food and show choices may be available that weren't available before.

Remember when not every ship had a huge theatre on the pool deck, that doesn't make or break a cruise because not very many folks are crowding the deck to watch "TV".

There are tons of things to do on these oceanliners and if everyone was interested in the same thing cruises wouldn't sell because the lines and wait times would be too long, everyone would be bottle-necked at one event.

Just my opinion.

msdedestiny July 27th, 2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EMG (Post 1429663)
Which ship is better is based on preference for instance; I don't care for chocolate so chocolate breakfast doesn't mean much to me. I also don't care for Chicago so that wouldn't matter either. If those are the criteria for what makes one ship better than the other, those criteria don't hold a lot of weight.

In the span of 2 years I would hope that any business relaunching a product would be able to improve on the original and over that time, food and show choices may be available that weren't available before.

Remember when not every ship had a huge theatre on the pool deck, that doesn't make or break a cruise because not very many folks are crowding the deck to watch "TV".

There are tons of things to do on these oceanliners and if everyone was interested in the same thing cruises wouldn't sell because the lines and wait times would be too long, everyone would be bottle-necked at one event.

Just my opinion.


msdedestiny July 27th, 2013 04:39 PM

So May I ask EMG..How was that CCL Breeze Cruise

CRUISEFAN0001 July 28th, 2013 11:33 AM

Allure and Oasis are 95% identical.

The rest of the 5% in differences comes down to shows and a couple of specialty restaurants - all a matter of personal taste.

They're both spectacular ships.

shazam August 19th, 2013 02:19 PM

Have you sailed on Allure in order to make the 5% difference statment.
 
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Originally Posted by CRUISEFAN0001 (Post 1480603)
Allure and Oasis are 95% identical.

The rest of the 5% in differences comes down to shows and a couple of specialty restaurants - all a matter of personal taste.

They're both spectacular ships.

I was wondering after looking at the list of ships you had listed in your cruise history if you had sailed on the Allure?

The reason for my question is that I have found that only through the experience of going on a cruise ship can you see and find out about the differences and why one ship is better than another even though they have the same design. For instance, the crew of the ship can make a significant difference between these two ships. A first rate show or a second rate show can make a difference. These are only a couple of differences that you only can find out by personal experience. And in my mind they go beyond a 5% difference.

Don't you agree?

Matelot August 19th, 2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JQH (Post 1416498)
How was the aqua show on the Allure?

We have been on Oasis and have Allure booked for this fall.. the "oasis of dreams" was the best show ever and I am hoping for the same on the Allure.

Also, seafood shack vs rita's cantina? The seafood shack was a horrible experience for us.. so greasy, too forever for our food (and they weren't even busy) and then they messed up our order and our waitress was never around. Anyway, when we go on the Allure we will have our 13 month old with us and I am a little concerned the party aspect of this restaurant.

TIA!

To be honest, Rita's cantina food wasn't all that- it was typical family dining 'Mexican' restaurant, but it's a very small fee to eat there - IIRC $3 or so.... The fiesta evening was fun, with food, 3 drinks (large Margaritas) and the fun and games with the staff, for $20 each.
I agree with the reviews of Aquashow, it is the most impressive show I have ever seen, on ship or on land. Just super!

Matelot August 19th, 2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoozeman (Post 1416116)
All the more reason to move the Oasis. With both sailing from same port we get minutia comparisons. They do need to move her to Galveston.

That would be good, although I was hoping they'd eventually put one of them on a Southern route. We really wanted to see the ship but are getting tired of E or W Caribbean. Some variety in the itineraries is long overdue.

Donna August 19th, 2013 09:18 PM

Hi Matelot,
I too would love one of the newer ships doing a Southern route. I think there could be a problem getting into ports though, with these ships so large, tendering would take all day, so that is out and some just don't have the pier space. May-be someday that will change too...

EMG August 19th, 2013 09:19 PM

Hi MsDestiny,

the CCL Breeze ship.. hmmmmph! While beautiful in all its "newness" I can't say that I was impressed. I felt like the new decorations although more adult, felt a little bit too adult. If that makes any sense.

The lido deck dining area(s) have been redesigned, they have trees and other things in the most odd of places which meant that most of the time I was walking around a tree, railing, or something that was not a great design idea.

Carnival ships need more pools. Carnival ships need more pools. Carnival ships need more pools!

My room (a balcony) was comfortable. The one thing I didn't remember from RCCL was the balcony door. RCCL has sliding doors, CCL has doors that open like a normal door which means; at night we can't turn off the AC and sleep with the ocean breeze or crashing waves.

The food was great on the Breeze. Guys Burger Joint is my favorite. I'm not a huge drinker so the new bars didn't appeal to me.

The Breeze although a really decent ship can not, does not and will not compare to the Oasis Class ships in any way.

devilsadvocate August 20th, 2013 11:14 AM

Third Oasis ship may grant your wishes...
 
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Originally Posted by Donna (Post 1482710)
Hi Matelot,
I too would love one of the newer ships doing a Southern route. I think there could be a problem getting into ports though, with these ships so large, tendering would take all day, so that is out and some just don't have the pier space. May-be someday that will change too...

Third Oasis-class cruise ship[edit source | edit]On 25 October 2012 Royal Caribbean confirmed that the company was engaged in negotiations to build a third Oasis-class vessel and hoped to enter an agreement before the year's end. The ship, which the company would expect to cost less per berth basis than the two previous ships and to be more energy efficient, would be delivered in middle to late 2016.[20]

On 27 December 2012, Royal Caribbean ordered the third Oasis-class cruise ship from STX France,[21] after failing to come to an agreement with the Government of Finland to build the ship at the STX Finland shipyard that built the first two ships.[22][23][24][25] The contract includes an option for a fourth ship to be delivered in 2018.[21]

I have envisioned that RCCL may run an Oasis class ship through the Panama Canal and then operate it off the West Coast. Another option might be a southern Caribbean cruise route to get cruisers back on these ships as they grow older. Finally, the most likely scenario is to take either the Oasis or the Allure to Europe as soon as the new ship is launched. I am sure RCCL has found that these ships still are novel in the mind of a lot of cruisers and will attract repeat sailings among even veteran cruisers.

Of course there are always grippers who will complain that the pools are not big enough or some other trivial items so you can't make everybody happy.
I am happy with the Allure.

redcrown August 23rd, 2013 09:33 PM

Having been on both ships twice with another upcoming cruise on the Allure, I do not think that there is much difference between the two. For us we prefer the Eastern itinerary. Hot dog vs doughnuts, Chicago vs Hairspray no big deal. Other factors besides itinerary that help us decide which ship is staff. Over time we have come to know various casino dealers, bartenders and concierges. Although this is not an overriding factor we do give it some consideration.

Manuel August 23rd, 2013 10:29 PM

The Amazing Allure and the Outstanding Oasis are both Excellent.

TM

Aerogirl August 24th, 2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate (Post 1482749)

Finally, the most likely scenario is to take either the Oasis or the Allure to Europe as soon as the new ship is launched. .

I believe RC had announced a while back that one of them was going to Europe , for a while. I don't remember which one.

Sulross August 24th, 2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerogirl (Post 1483118)
I believe RC had announced a while back that one of them was going to Europe , for a while. I don't remember which one.

Oasis is going to Europe at the beginning of September 2014. It will do a crossing, 4 or 5 Med cruises and then go to drydock for a few weeks. After that it leaves from Rotterdam on 10/14/14 and heads back to Ft. Lauderdale. Nothing has been announced, but assume the Alure will do the same sort of thing in 2015 or 2016 for a cleaning and drydock.


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