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felix_the_cat September 4th, 2013 08:27 PM

Royal Caribbean's New Smoking Policy
 
This is effective Jan. 1/14.


Q: What is the Smoking Policy onboard?

A: For the comfort and enjoyment of our guests, our ships are designated as non-smoking; however, we recognize that some of our guests do smoke. Therefore, to provide an onboard environment that also satisfies smokers, we have designated certain areas of the ship as smoking areas.

Cigarette, cigar, e-cigarette and pipe smoking is permitted in designated outdoor areas of the starboard side of all ships; with the exception of Oasis-class ships that will allow smoking on the port side of the ships. To assist in locating areas where smoking is permitted, guests will find visible signage posted within all smoking areas and ashtrays that are provided for use. Outdoor areas near restricted areas, food venues, and kids play areas and pools will not allow smoking. On Oasisclass, smoking is not permitted in Central Park or the Boardwalk neighborhoods.

Casino Royale allows smoking and has a designated area for non-smoking guests. There will be visible signage indicating the non-smoking area in the casino. There are select cruises departing from China that will not have a non-smoking area in the casino.

Onboard all interior public spaces are smoke free*. Smoking is not permitted in any dining venue, theater, bar, lounge, hallway, elevator, and jogging track.

Smoking is not permitted inside any stateroom and any stateroom balcony. This applies to all stateroom categories onboard. If a guest is in violation of this stateroom policy, a cleaning fee of $250 USD will be applied to their SeaPassŪ account and may be subject to further action pursuant to the "Consequences Section" of the Guest Conduct Policy.

Cigarettes, cigars and pipe tobacco must be properly disposed of and never thrown overboard. Cigar and pipe tobacco is limited to designated outdoor areas and Cigar Bars**. You must be at least 18 years of age to purchase, possess or use tobacco onboard.

Electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes are only permitted within the designated smoking areas.

Royal Caribbean International kindly asks all guests to please observe the smoking policy. These requests are made to provide a comfortable cruise for everyone. Guest may also inquire at Guest Services for the location of the designated smoking areas onboard.

Guests who violate this smoking policy may be subject to further action pursuant to the "Consequences Section" of this Guest Conduct Policy.

Royal Caribbean updated the smoking policy July 2013 and the above policy is in enforcement on all ships with cruises departing on or after January 1, 2014.

*Mariner of the Seas and Voyager of the Seas offer one indoor smoking venue. Onboard Mariner of the Seas guest can smoke at the Connoisseur Club located on Deck 5. Onboard Voyager of the Seas guest can smoke at The Vault, nightclub, located on Deck 3.

**Cigar Bars on Royal Caribbean International are called the Connoisseur Club and are featured on the Freedom Class and Voyager Class ships.
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felix_the_cat September 4th, 2013 08:29 PM

I see whatI posted is the old policy. I'll have to find the new one announced today.

Matelot September 4th, 2013 10:49 PM

We sailed on Navigator in the western Med and 11 of the 15 bars onboard were smoking, and in one bar where we wanted to watch Karaoke, they had smoking on one side and 'non smoking' on the other side...:rolleyes: it was pretty horrible.. Even the main promenade stunk of smoke from the Pub.
When I wrote to them after to find what was their official policy on smoking, I was told it was a flexible rule, according to the demographic on board at the time... I'd never sail there again until it is changed.

Queen of Oakville September 5th, 2013 09:48 AM

Felix - did you change it to the new policy?

No smoking on balconies? Will they enforce it?

If you are out on your balcony and smell smoke .... and complain .... just how would royal figure out where it is coming from?

Someone, somewhere had suggested making port smoking and starboard non-smoking (or vice-versa). I see that as a solution that makes everyone happy.

felix_the_cat September 5th, 2013 10:22 AM

Making one side smoking and the other not won't work from the companies point of view. I really don't think they would sell enough on the smoking side and then you would get non-smokers complaining because they are forced to book on the smoking side.

I assume as on other lines, you would have to call security or the front desk to complain. The problem will be - will they send someone soon enough to "catch" the culprit. I don't know how much the room stewards will help as their gratuities are depending on the cruiser and if they blow the cruiser in, good bye gratuities.

A camera taking a picture around the divider might work. :p

As for in Europe, Europeans smoke so much more than North Americans and I don't see the rules being the same because of it.

For the cruises out of Asia, there will be not be any no-smoking rules. The Asians are big time smokers and will not be giving that up anytime soon.

I thought I posted the new policy. I'll re-check that.

felix_the_cat September 5th, 2013 10:25 AM

What is the Smoking Policy onboard - Royal Caribbean International

Queen of Oakville September 5th, 2013 10:45 AM

You can smell smoke though even though it may not be your immediate neighbour.

Maybe they will put smoke detectors on the balcony.

felix_the_cat September 5th, 2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen of Oakville (Post 1484005)
You can smell smoke though even though it may not be your immediate neighbour.

Maybe they will put smoke detectors on the balcony.


hehe That would be great but I can see a constant ringing of smoke detectors going off.

They will have to enforce their own rules as of Jan. 1/14 but I suppose it will take a bit of time for people to get used to it.

Dave Beers September 5th, 2013 03:38 PM

Here is an easier to understand version of the new policy that Vickie Freed just linked to on Facebook.

CRUISEFAN0001 September 7th, 2013 10:04 AM

AMEN, HALLELUJAH, and all that stuff.

LONG OVERDUE.

seadog2 September 7th, 2013 09:14 PM

Well I guess I'll be booking my future cruises on the non smoking side of the ship. I believe the question was asked, what happens when the non smoking side sales out and someone is forced to book a cabin on the smoking side. This will pose a problem.

Truck Cruiser September 9th, 2013 01:36 AM

I just booked a cruise last month through RCI for next February and they told me smoking was ok on a balcony so I booked a balcony instead of a interior room. Are you telling me the booking agent for RCI lied to me?

CRUISEFAN0001 September 9th, 2013 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truck Cruiser (Post 1484211)
I just booked a cruise last month through RCI for next February and they told me smoking was ok on a balcony so I booked a balcony instead of a interior room. Are you telling me the booking agent for RCI lied to me?

The new policy was just announced, effective Jan 1, 2014....so perhaps the TA wasn't up to speed with the new policy...

felix_the_cat September 9th, 2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truck Cruiser (Post 1484211)
I just booked a cruise last month through RCI for next February and they told me smoking was ok on a balcony so I booked a balcony instead of a interior room. Are you telling me the booking agent for RCI lied to me?


She did not lie to you, she told you the information she had on hand at the time you booked.

Now things have changed. However there has been enough notice given to make changes/cancellations should you wish to do so. You may have known sooner had you used a travel agent.

ruthlessboss September 9th, 2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truck Cruiser (Post 1484211)
I just booked a cruise last month through RCI for next February and they told me smoking was ok on a balcony so I booked a balcony instead of a interior room. Are you telling me the booking agent for RCI lied to me?

No, they didn't lie. At least you have the time available to cancel without penalty. There will be smoking areas available, but it's quite a disappointment compared to having balcony convenience.

Villager September 9th, 2013 03:56 PM

Just received this email from Royal Caribbean referencing the smoking policy.

Dear Friend,

In consideration of ongoing guest feedback and evolving industry standards, Royal Caribbean International is revising its onboard smoking policy, effective for all sailings departing on or after January 1, 2014.

Under this new policy, all indoor public spaces will be smoke free, with the exception of the Casino and the Connoisseur Club on Freedom and Voyager Class ships and one designated smoking venue on ships sailing from Chinese homeports. In the Casino, there will be designated smoking and non-smoking areas.

Additionally, smoking will not be permitted in the staterooms or on stateroom balconies. Outdoor smoking areas will be designated on the starboard side of all ships; with the exception of Oasis-class ships that will allow smoking on the port side of the ships.

Indoor smoking areas permit tobacco cigarettes and electronic cigarettes. Cigars and pipe tobacco can be enjoyed in designated outdoor areas, or in the cigar club on the ships that offer this venue.

Please consult our Smoking Policy FAQ for more details.

Royal Caribbean International is committed to continually enhancing the guest vacation experience. To find smoking venues and areas while onboard, please consult your Cruise Compass, or visit Guest Services, where we will be happy to assist you.

Thank you and we look forward to welcoming you aboard soon

Manuel September 9th, 2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truck Cruiser (Post 1484211)
. Are you telling me the booking agent for RCI lied to me?


They did not lie to you.

They just felt that you ( could not handle the truth ).

TM

anniegb September 9th, 2013 07:17 PM

At least you can cancel without penalty in the US, in UK if you wish to cancel you forfeit your deposit.

Annie

thecruisequeen September 9th, 2013 07:29 PM

With the new smoking policy starting January 1st there is plenty of time to cancel for those cruisers that find the smoking policy a problem.

thecruisequeen September 9th, 2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager (Post 1484240)
Just received this email from Royal Caribbean referencing the smoking policy.

Dear Friend,


It's nice how they addressed the email as Dear Friend, and not Dear Cruiser or something else......:mrgreen:8-):-PLOL I did not get my Dear Friend email yet.....:?:LOL

Manuel September 9th, 2013 10:10 PM

How about a completely smoke-free Royal ship?

TM

Villager September 9th, 2013 10:22 PM

TM,

A completely smoke free ship would be great, but I don't think that is likely any time soon. I do wish the casino would be smoke free, the smoke in there really bothers me and I enjoy spending time there. A smoke free area is not smoke free.

Manuel September 9th, 2013 10:55 PM

I spend very little time in the casino because of the smoke.

TM

Queen of Oakville September 10th, 2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager (Post 1484281)
TM,

A completely smoke free ship would be great, but I don't think that is likely any time soon. I do wish the casino would be smoke free, the smoke in there really bothers me and I enjoy spending time there. A smoke free area is not smoke free.

I second that. I don't mind walking through a smoking section to get to a non-smoking section. But I've walked away from more than one winning streak at a table, because someone was sitting at the table and smoking.

They make non-smoking tables/sections work in Vegas.

The smoke burns my eyes and irritates my throat.

Casinos on Royal are large enough to make non-smoking sections work. HAL with their small casinos are the worst.

Truck Cruiser September 11th, 2013 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRUISEFAN0001 (Post 1484214)
The new policy was just announced, effective Jan 1, 2014....so perhaps the TA wasn't up to speed with the new policy...

I had booked directly with RCI, she should of known what was in the pipeline.

felix_the_cat September 11th, 2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truck Cruiser (Post 1484389)
I had booked directly with RCI, she should of known what was in the pipeline.


The last to know ......... their own booking agents. Not just on this issue, but pretty well all issues.

CRUISEFAN0001 September 14th, 2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truck Cruiser (Post 1484389)
I had booked directly with RCI, she should of known what was in the pipeline.

In theory that is true.

In practice...there can be weeks of delay in notifying the Cust Service folks on policy changes (there are lots of them - including remote staff - including those who are on vacation and part time).

Manuel September 23rd, 2013 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petersumpters (Post 1485218)
I'm favor that smoking was banned inside all staterooms.

I'm in favor of banning smoking anywhere on the ship.

TM

bonkers2376 February 3rd, 2014 11:04 PM

yes, you are screwed....NO SMOKING in balcony rooms at all starting jan 1, 2014. This is why a lot of people are so upset because they were not told.

felix_the_cat February 6th, 2014 01:25 PM

So, I'll post this again, on January 23, 2014 I lost my husband/best friend/travel partner/ life mate to cancer. He had turned 65 on January 16, 2014. I will be the one reporting anyone I see smoking in a non-smoking area any where any time and that will be on any ship I have the luck of sailing on.


I smoked for a lot of years, yet here I am. I am now a rabid none-smoker.


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