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Iamboatman December 7th, 2010 08:56 AM

Is It The End For "The Yachts of Seabourn"?
 
It was prematurely announced today that Seabourn may be eliminating "The Yachts of Seabourn" and, again, refer to itself as "Seabourn Cruise Line".

I have written my thoughts on the subject on my blog, This Is My Yacht, which I invite you to read rather than repeating it here.

What do you think? Does it matter?

diebroke December 7th, 2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamboatman (Post 1332977)
What do you think? Does it matter?

Yawn.
The only thing shocking is that a company wants to be more accurate in its marketing.
Next thing you know, Regent will call itself a 3 star cruise line.

Paul Motter December 7th, 2010 04:02 PM

Diebroke - I doubt the latter.

Anyway - I think this would be a very good move for Seabourn. The term "Yacht Club" is deceiving in that it sounds like something you need to join in order to get involved.

I can just see people saying "I don't want to join a club, I just want to take a cruise."

But by the same token, I know Larry Pimentel purposely changed the title of Azamara to Azamara CLUB Cruises because he found that most of the people on such ships were joiners, and that many of them belonged to various clubs and organization. He felt it was important to imbue a sense of "belonging" when you take a certain cruise line.

However - I agree that accuracy is a good thing, Seabourn will soon have 1350 staterooms on bigger vessels and only 600 on the smaller ones. They are no longer a "Yacht" cruise line, they are a standard small luxury line (categorically speaking).

I think many cruise lines miss the boat when it comes to names - of lines and ships.

I dislike "Azamara" as a name. I htink Seabourn should have been "Seaborne" as it looks classier and say "of the sea" while the word "Seabourn" is actually meaningless in derivation.

I can't stand Royal Caribbean's ____ of the Seas naming convention. And I don't like names "Oasis of the Seas" or "Allure of the Seas." Never give a ship a terrestrial sounding name - "Celebrity Summit" is a bad name, as is "Oasis" of the seas.

Anyway - it is too easy for people to pick on Seabourn for calling it s "Yacht Club" - Seabourn Cruises is the perfect, more memorable name.

diebroke December 8th, 2010 07:44 PM

Speaking of names, I predict no prizes will be awarded to whomever came up with "Junior Member" & "Beginner" as names for people who join this forum.

Paul Motter December 15th, 2010 03:29 PM

Diebroke - if you have better suggestions I will change them. I originally had something else but I was over-ruled.

BY the way - I will be going on Azamara Club Cruises this coming January.

diebroke December 15th, 2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Motter (Post 1334902)
Diebroke - if you have better suggestions I will change them. I originally had something else but I was over-ruled.

How about "Person"? (That will distinguish us from our pets who may choose to post.)
The good news is that now that I have successfully achieved the giant leap from Beginner to Passenger, my posts will no doubt be more enlightened & insightful and will be read with more interest.
Seriously, I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish by giving us labels. If it is to guide the reader in establishing the credibility of the poster, maybe it would be useful to require us to post the number of (luxury) cruises we’ve been on, the number of countries we’ve visited, the number of Michelin starred restaurants we’ve eaten in, the number of frequent flyer miles we have, our status in various hotel frequent stayer programs, our college degrees, our net worth, and our IQ. At least on the CC boards, and in particular the Regent CC boards, I have not found a correlation between the number of posts someone has made and the wisdom of their posts (as judged by me.)
Another option would be to just let the reader judge the usefulness of the information & its credibility based on the content of the post itself and the history of that person’s posts. Over time, we all develop a web personality that is unique and people learn whose advice to pay attention to & whose to ignore.

In the meantime, you are welcome to give me any label you like. I am sure it will be far better than some of the labels others have attached to me.

GrannyLorr December 15th, 2010 08:15 PM

LOTSeas suggested "Chief Trouble Maker" for me! Must admit I would gladly wear that label with pride! :D

GrannyLorr December 15th, 2010 08:16 PM

LMAO......I am now a MEMBER....diebroke is still a JUNIOR!! :D:D:D

diebroke December 16th, 2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GrannyLorr (Post 1334949)
I am now a MEMBER....diebroke is still a JUNIOR!!

I second your nomination as Chief Trouble Maker

Paul Motter December 16th, 2010 12:39 PM

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In the meantime, you are welcome to give me any label you like.
See? Not as easy to come up with those labels as you probably thought!

I will tell you something funny about these message boards... they are vBulletin boards, which are the same as Cruise Critic uses.

However (odd coincidence) our parent company (Internet Brands) which acquired us in 2006 owns the intellectual property rights to vBulletin message boards.

That doesn't mean much, except that they own the design so other sites (like CC) that use them pay a license fee to "us",

Now the funny part...

These boards come with a feature we have disabled (and so has Cruise Critic) where every USER like you, Granny or me, can vote on other users reputation. It is called the "reputation manager" where you give each post "points"

These are the stock categories (changable):

User is infamous around these parts
User can only hope to improve
User has a little shameless behaviour in the past
User is an unknown quantity at this point
User is on a distinguished road
User will become famous soon enough
User has a spectacular aura about
User is a jewel in the rough
User is just really nice
User is a glorious beacon of light User is a name known to all
User is a splendid one to behold
User has much to be proud of
User has a brilliant future
User has a reputation beyond repute

Can you imagine what kind of board wars that would bring up?

diebroke December 16th, 2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Motter (Post 1335083)
Can you imagine what kind of board wars that would bring up?

Scary. Would likely self destruct shortly after implementation.

GrannyLorr December 16th, 2010 02:29 PM

well I like that idea......can see it now.....

:p:p Granny is a glorious beacon of light :p:p

now that sounds just perfect!

diebroke December 16th, 2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GrannyLorr (Post 1335102)
:p:p Granny is a glorious beacon of light :p:p
now that sounds just perfect!

Go for it Granny. We're all entitled to our delusions, especially at our age.

I see that we have now been labeled as Familiar Faces. Still trying to decide if that's a good thing. The only place where I am known by that label is our local pub.

Iamboatman December 16th, 2010 03:53 PM

How am I a "Familiar Face" when nobody knows what I look like?:confused:


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