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Forum: Costa January 29th, 2012, 12:43 PM
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Posted By Paul Motter
Its a lot tougher to lose the ship than pay...

Its a lot tougher to lose the ship than pay $150-million.

And by the way Carnival Corp earned something like 100 times that amount just in 2011 - 14.4 billion (I heard someplace). Not profit -...
Forum: Costa January 25th, 2012, 11:58 AM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
That second video is really dramatic. I saw a...

That second video is really dramatic. I saw a similar tracking video on YouTube last week that showed the ship turning around to port (not starboard) causing it to lean to starboard when it hit the...
Forum: Costa January 25th, 2012, 11:40 AM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I've got it fron NavSim website (a company that,...

I've got it fron NavSim website (a company that, among other things, manufactures navigation software (http://www.navsim.pl/about_navsim/news.html)). This is a Polish-based company so I guess it's...
Forum: Costa January 23rd, 2012, 12:05 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Royal Caribbean Comments on Safety

All of us at Royal Caribbean International continue to extend our heartfelt sympathies to those affected by Carnival Corporation's recent tragic incident on the Costa Concordia. As a Crown & Anchor...
Forum: Costa January 20th, 2012, 12:37 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Andrew, I am not sure where that picture came...

Andrew, I am not sure where that picture came from, but it shows the captain turning a different direction that what we saw before, and it also implies drifting.

I understand things can change -...
Forum: Costa January 18th, 2012, 05:00 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Mike - every time I think I have the sequence of...

Mike - every time I think I have the sequence of events figured out some new development comes along. The first I heard about that other captain being onboard was just a few hours ago.

That is...
Forum: Costa January 18th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
This is how I have always looked at crew/staff......

This is how I have always looked at crew/staff...

The ship workers are really three categories: staff, officres and crew.

Officers - have shirts with stripes. They do nativigation, safety,...
Forum: Costa January 18th, 2012, 03:03 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I just want to delineater between the "crew" and...

I just want to delineater between the "crew" and "staff"

Officers are "staff" - while "crew" are waiters, room stewards, etc.

When it comes to evecuation the "crew" I will bet you the crew...
Forum: Costa January 18th, 2012, 12:12 AM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Yes - it is sad, and it gives Italian officers a...

Yes - it is sad, and it gives Italian officers a real black eye. The industry phased out Greeks a while back - after Oceanos and Epirotiki. I wouldn't be surprised if Italian officers get a bad rap...
Forum: Costa January 17th, 2012, 09:26 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Todd - it is an excellent post. But the two...

Todd - it is an excellent post. But the two things need to be added (and I have a unique perspective on this as a former crewmember) is that crewmembers are only trained to do what they are told -...
Forum: Costa January 17th, 2012, 07:18 PM
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Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I watched the Costa news conference and Foschi...

I watched the Costa news conference and Foschi did admit tht the ship did the same sailby last August - and here is a video of it.. (and it does look REALLY CLOSE)

La nave Concordia vicino al...
Forum: Costa January 17th, 2012, 06:17 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
While the captains actions in leaving the ship...

While the captains actions in leaving the ship are deplorable - what no one seems to be talking about is what happened between the time he hit the rock and the ship got beached.

This will be a...
Forum: Costa January 17th, 2012, 03:14 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Costa Cruise press conference from Monday Morning...

Costa Cruise press conference from Monday Morning - Questions start about 15 minutes in...

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Forum: Costa January 16th, 2012, 07:11 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I just read that some of the people who are...

I just read that some of the people who are missing jumped from the ship and tried to swim.

I am hoping they can search the entire ship but for some reason that seems to be much harder than one...
Forum: Costa January 16th, 2012, 06:55 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Everyone wants to know the facts, and in time...

Everyone wants to know the facts, and in time hopefully the full details will be made public. I think sometime the rush to "get the story out" by the media (including the cruise media) gives a...
Forum: Costa January 16th, 2012, 02:23 PM
Replies: 290
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Posted By Paul Motter
Yet another article on what we know as of...

Yet another article on what we know as of today....


Latest CruiseMates Blog Post
Concordia - What We Finally Know (http://www.cruisemates.com/blog/201201162772/concordia-finally/) We now know...
Forum: Costa January 16th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Yes, I was on Geraldo last night - but my time...

Yes, I was on Geraldo last night - but my time was cut shorty by John Huntsman making his breaking news announcement.

Also that other guy (who took up all my time) was not supposed to be there. I...
Forum: Costa January 15th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I am changing my theory - the ship hit the rocks...

I am changing my theory - the ship hit the rocks about 40 minutes after the sail-by - that was successful. They hit the rocks 40 minutes later, started taking on water immediately, and then turned...
Forum: Costa January 15th, 2012, 01:57 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Here is my theory on what happened... ...

Here is my theory on what happened...

because reports keep giving us a sequence of events - but they do not give us a timeline, here is what I am guessing happened...

The captain may have...
Forum: Costa January 15th, 2012, 01:55 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Reading this just made me feel sick.... how sad! ...

Reading this just made me feel sick.... how sad!

I agree - when the ship started to list everyone should have been brought up to the top open decks. No one should have been in their staterooms.
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Forum: Costa January 15th, 2012, 11:54 AM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I am surprised at the lack of disclosure coming...

I am surprised at the lack of disclosure coming out of Costa/Carnival. The best thing they could be doing right now is describing exactly what happened and reminding us that this could have been a...
Forum: Costa January 14th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
That said, there is room for improvements in crew...

That said, there is room for improvements in crew training and the stricter enforcement of conducting the passenger drills for ALL newly embarked passengers prior to leaving port. And it is apparent...
Forum: Costa January 14th, 2012, 06:54 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
Yes - here is how I see it... The ship hit...

Yes - here is how I see it...

The ship hit a rocky shoal someplace on the port side - that was the jolt.

Everyone says everything happened quickly.

Now - hitting the first rock and...
Forum: Costa January 14th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I was wrong - I did not realize this ship takes...

I was wrong - I did not realize this ship takes on passengers in four ports - so those who boarded on the 13th had not had their drill yet.

It could not have been worse as far as timing goes.
Forum: Costa January 14th, 2012, 05:00 PM
Replies: 290
Views: 21,631
Posted By Paul Motter
I just read the official press releases from...

I just read the official press releases from Costa - they say the captain was on the bridge when the incident occured and that he was about to establish evacuation procedures immediately - but that...
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