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Old March 23rd, 2004, 09:39 PM
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What are you thoughts on the art auctions at sea by Park West. Anyone have experiences to share?

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Old March 26th, 2004, 09:28 PM
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My husband and I love them. We have been exposed to some artists that I probably would not have considered if I saw it in a regular gallery. And now when we see these artists in our hometown at a gallery, we know about them.

We have bought some nice pieces and I've even started to collect some particular artists. It can become addictive.

Park West is a very professional gallery. We have always received our artwork it great condition. I'm very pleased with them.

Keep in mind though that you will pay for shipping and you will have to get it framed. Which can cost you as much as the work you bought, but the quality is worth it.
Make sure you understand the logistics before you buy anything.

Most works are serigraphs but they are numbered and come with a letter of authenticity. They will also appraise them for a fee.

The auctions are very popular. I just went on the Summit and there were four actions and they were all packed.

Believe me I don't spend thousands on one piece of work, but some people do.

I think it's fun even if you don't buy anything.
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Old March 27th, 2004, 06:13 AM
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We really like them. Have bought art on two seperate cruises. They deliver them to you
UPS about 6 weeks after you get home. You can get some very good deals. Our last cruise the guy was giving away $450 artwork with some pieces to get more bids. We
bought a piece of art that appraised for $1000 for $350 plus got free one to. We have been very happy with them. We are fixing to sail on Celebrity in couple of weeks, they dont do the art auctions. Its a good thing, we always spend to much money!
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Celebrity has had art auctions the two times we sailed them. And some friends of ours have had art auctions on all of their Celebrity cruises. Is this a new policy or something? We last sailed Celebrity on the Zenith 12-22-02 through South America.
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Old March 29th, 2004, 07:27 PM
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I just didnt think they had them, I hadnt seen anywhere that mentioned them having art auctions. I better not tell my husband Thanks for the info
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Old March 29th, 2004, 08:43 PM
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Okay, so we are art auction junkies..lol We are not drinkers or gamblers and a piece (or two or three or more) of art is what we splurge on. Before Park
west the other galleries offered many more pieces framed. The cruise line does get a piece of the action. The only way you can sort of win is having a Park West credit card which allows you I think a year to pay off the bill without interest. That said.. we went to a charity art sale recently and the piece we bought was such a bargain compared to if we bought it on a cruise..no buyers premium, etc. The first piece I bought is a huge 30 x 30 and came framed (a CP).. I can no longer afford this wonderful artist. At another auction the wife of a famous ex-Celtic baskeball player was buying many pieces. she had a good eye according to the auctioneer.. and she wAs going to re-sell them to her decorating clients. On the NCL Sea we ran into an auctioneer we had met before whose name shall remain private...she was so rude to the staff and to myself in front of other guests I was mortified. We did write a letter concerning this woman and in the mail came a print, no apology... If we run into her again we will avoid the auction. I've seen guests spend in one sitting $6,000.00 another guest sat with a list of her current pieces (several pages long) looking to pick up other pieces of new and upcoming artists.. I do know at one sale I saw a sports cartoon..the same cartoon was in a sports memorabilia magazine we received for hundreds of dollars more..

An article about cruise ship auctions two weeks ago had a quote by somebody at Park West where he mentioned that the more expensive the ship.. the better the art work.

We are lucky in that we have a very affordable framer. A dear friend I think only cruises to be able to buy art, by a specific artist.. Both sides of our hall have art work, the bathrooms, the bedrooms, the dining room and there are pieces in waiting....
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Old March 30th, 2004, 07:29 PM
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I'm glad to hear there are other art auction junkies out there.

They usually have the actions on the days at sea and sometimes at night as blind auctions.

We don't have large bar bills (only the martini bar) and don't go to the casino, but between Park West Art Auctions and St. Thomas....I can do some damage.

We just went on the Summit and they had four auction days on a 10-night cruise all on sea days. They usually have the preview at 1:30 and the auction starts at 2:00 and ends about 4:00.

We have a Park West credit card and opted to take the free 15% buyers premium instead of the extended payments.
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Old March 30th, 2004, 08:50 PM
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We were on a trans-atlantic and I can tell you that they were hanging off the balcony at the art auctions in the atrium. In the article I mentioned above the gentleman from Park West said something about carrying I think he said....jewelry.....OH NO!!!!
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Old March 31st, 2004, 09:30 PM
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I've attended 2 cruiseline art auctions by Park West - first on Premiere (Big Red Boat), the other on Carnival Fantasy. Both were very enjoyable and reasonably priced. A HUGE variety to choose from.

My best deal was just over $300 for a very large framed and matted set of Lion King memorabilia - artist sketch, sericel, and commemorative program from opening night in NY, 1994 - arranged veritcally. Very nice! It would have cost us that much just to have it framed.

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My husband and I decided to sit in on an auction on Royal Caribbean. A piece came up in a range we fit in and it was the first piece that had a lot of action on it. It quickly jumped out of the price range a number of us could work with. Park Avenue had 5 of the same piece so they brought the price back down and we all got the piece at a price we were happy with. Obviously not a one of a kind rareity but we had a lot of fun and have a great souvinier. We look forward to finding our next trreasure with them.

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My wife and I recently sailed on the Carnival Miracle and attended the art auctions. We did not know prior to boarding that our cruise would have such an auction....well we became addicted....attended all four. Got some really nice Kinkade paintings....and the free ones aren't bad either. And we received a very nice painting for siging up the their credit card.

I got a signed Brooks Robinson picture that I will charish and it is already hanging in my den/computer room!
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I have had good and bad experience with art auctions...we became addicted also,...On the old NCL Seaward..every auction was like an art history class.it was amazing..hubby bought $1500.00 that trip, and he is not a shopper..Ona princess cruise there is a real sleazy ex basketball player, who is the auctioneer..we had problems with all the art purchases.princess was the only line at the time that had there own in house art..not sure if its still that way. The art I recieved was an embarrasment to Princess..Such poor condition I was amazed..A friend bought the same art as I did and had the same problems..After counteless conversations I ended up getting it gratis..I paid a gallery here to fix them..they also gave me a free Tarkay, for my trouble... I must admit they handled it well , but it was an ongoing problem get it to that point..Park west was much better...

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Old June 19th, 2004, 04:47 PM
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I had bought two Benfields on the Miracle. I really like the art work but I find it strange that Park West sells the art and does their own appraisals. I would think the seller would hire, or at least attempt to make it look like they hired an outside appraiser. Bottom line is I am happy with my purchase. Just curious if this is the norm with dealers/auction houses.

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Old June 21st, 2004, 02:56 PM
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Well just came back from another cruise in April on Celebrity and were addicted again. We bought five pieces, including three benfields. We love that artist. Got our art in about 3 weeks after we got back. I had to call because I was missing a appraisal for a take off piece...well two days later it came. They sent me out another like within a week. So I am happy with their customer service.
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I just posted my latest experience with Park West on the gripe board. Basically, Park West oversold one of the pictures I bought (and paid extra for them to frame), and now, over 2 months later, I'm told I will have to settle for an "alternative piece."

Hmmm...seems to me if I wanted the alternate, I would have BID on the alternate! (Yes, I still feel ripped off.) I haven't gotten my selection of "alternates" yet, but will let you know how it works out.

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Just got our CP from Park West. A CP is framed by Park West at no cost.

It came via Fed Ex, so you have to sign for it. Unfortunately, the frame was badly chipped in the corner.

I called Park West and they were very nice about it. We packaged it back up and they sent Fed Ex (at their expense) to pick it up.

They didn't question the damage, but it was packed pretty good, even though the box was bigger than the painting. it had cardboard corners on it and was wrapped in bubble wrap, but I mentioned that it may have been damaged before it was shipped.

We only had one other problem last year when we purchased a print, they mailed all the prints but one but they did send the letter of authenticity. It was our word against theirs, but we did not receive the print. They sent another one with no questions. Now maybe they found it in their packing area, or someone got a free print, but they took care of the problem, so I was happy.

We love the art auctions and we also have two Benfields. I've heard they have gone up in value, so all that have them made a good choice.

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Follow up to my last message:

We received our newly framed CP from Park West and it is great. It's framed better than the first one we received, so good thing there was a chip in it., I'm happier with this second one.

Park West is a great company to deal with.

Now if I can just stop buying from them. I have more than I need.

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I am glad I found a lot of people who have encountered the art auctions onboard. I have been on several cruise lines such as celebrity, Radisson,P&O and Princess. I have experienced auctions by more than one company. Park West Gallery was on my celebrity cruises and West End Gallery on Radisson and P&O as well. I have acquired several works of art from Park West which I was not really satisfied from, after I have seen the same works selling for much cheaper at West End Gallery on Radisson. They had a wider selection of artwork and much more diverse and sophisticated. they had a range of English, American, Russian, and French art and sculptures. I purchased an original oil by Gary Benfield from them later on through their office in London which was an absolutely amazing work of art. If any of you have seen the serigraph Days of Summer by Gary. I purchased the origianl from them, and it was sold to me for about 40 percent off the retail price. I still do business with them even here at home. They have an extensive art collectin on their website as well.

www.westendgallery.co.uk

I have more than enough artwork now, so i guess i am not going to buy any more artwork for while.

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RE: West End Gallery

In addition to the at sea auctions, we attend the land auctions Park West offers. I purchased a work there last Spring. It was framed, and you take it with you, unlike the sea actions in most cases.

That exact work "Autumn Square" is in the current West End offerings. When I priced it framed, it turned out to be about $200 more than what I paid at Park West.

My sense is that in some cases Park West is less expensive, and in some cases they aren't. Either way, we too have purchased a lot of art (some still awaiting framing), and won't be buying (or so I say) for awhile. We have always had good luck with Park West, and still attend the land auctions when we can - it's a free art exhibit, and it's fun to see the bidding - we once saw a person spend $6500 on a Peter Max.....nice to have money.
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