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We have not sailed with RCCL for several years. I would like to know what the current dress code is for evening meals. Elegant night is a given. I always wear a tux (yes, I am somewhat old fashioned and my wife enjoys dressing up). However I am a little confused with Casual and Smart Casual. Usually on other nights I wear slacks and either a polo shirt or a collared shirt. Can anyone tell if Smart Casual means coat and tie or can I wear what I usually wear to dinner (slacks and shirt)? Is a tie necessary? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Master Chief good morning, I usually treat casual and smart casual the same. Slacks and polo or collared shirt with no tie. Most people on those nights I've noticed do the same. If you do this I think you'll be right in step with everyone else. BTW my wife and I also like to dress to the nines on formal nights. Enjoy your cruise.
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Thanks Seadog2. That makes more sense to me.
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Don't be surprised if you notice people wearing shorts in the dining room on casual nights. On my last cruise with RCCL, Freedom OTS Aug. 14'. The dining room staff informed me that shorts with a collared shirt were permitted in the dining room except on formal nights. When I returned home I asked my travel agent to check into this as it was new to me. Royal Caribbean informed her that it is up to each ship as to how they enforce the dress code. Just a little FYI. Have a great trip.
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Don't be surprised if you notice people wearing shorts in the dining room on casual nights. On my last cruise with RCCL, Freedom OTS Aug. 14'. The dining room staff informed me that shorts with a collared shirt were permitted in the dining room except on formal nights. When I returned home I asked my travel agent to check into this as it was new to me. Royal Caribbean informed her that it is up to each ship as to how they enforce the dress code. Just a little FYI. Have a great trip.


Thanks Ronnie. I know that most of the cruise ships from all the lines are permitting shorts in the dining room on casual nights. It really doesn't bother me what folks wear as long as it is neat, clean and presentable. Personally, slacks are for me.
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Thanks Ronnie. I know that most of the cruise ships from all the lines are permitting shorts in the dining room on casual nights. It really doesn't bother me what folks wear as long as it is neat, clean and presentable. Personally, slacks are for me.
I find it a bit of a hoot that NCL's Freestyle ships have a more stringent dress code for the large aft MDR than does Royal. Who would have ever guessed this would come to pass. NCL requires long pants, close toed shoes and a collared shirt for men in the MDR and one specialty restaurant. Shorts are OK in the others.
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Yeah this took me by surprise also.
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Yeah this took me by surprise also.
But on the other hand, they have no mandatory formal nights. So I guess this is somewhat of a compromise. And, the long pants can be jeans.
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Smart Casual would require a collared dress shirt; but no tie. Casual is a golf shirt; which would not be worn with a tie. Smart Casual would require slacks; anything except jeans.
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Smart Casual would require a collared dress shirt; but no tie. Casual is a golf shirt; which would not be worn with a tie. Smart Casual would require slacks; anything except jeans.
On Royal? So the MDR, at least on some ships, is Casual with shorts and a shirt with a collar, at least on nights other than formal nights?
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I was on the Quantum of the Seas last month .The dress code for the formal dining room was a suit or sports jacket and slacks .Every man I saw either wore a tux or a suit.
For all the other restaurants the dress code was slacks and a shirt for the men ,no jeans ,no shorts .
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Like RCCL told my T/A, it is up to each ship as to how they enforce the dress code.
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I will always dress smart, as I'm on holiday and on a cruise.
For evening dinner
for casual I will wear a patterned shirt (no tie) with trousers (slacks)
for Smart Casual I will wear the same as casual and include a Blazer (With my Royal Navy Crest and badges on, always a good talking point)
for Formal I will always wear a tux and my bowtie will colour coordinate with the wife's dress
For day time wear, I wear the polo shirt and normal wear trousers for meal times unless at the pool and eating outside.

I was seeing for a while, more people wearing suits than tuxedos on formal nights, but recent cruises this has changed, as people want to make it special and dress up, because we don't all wear a tux every week and on holiday you want to make it special. Even the younger crowd are following and doing this. I think for your first cruise, everything is new and you are unsure of what to take or wear, after the first, you then want to join in and be a part of all the glamour.
If you sat at my table in shorts and polo shirt on a formal night, I would make sure you wouldn't do it again or even last the whole meal without wanting to change or leave and eat somewhere else. But the maître d' shouldn't let them in the restaurant in the first place.
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I will always dress smart, as I'm on holiday and on a cruise.
If you sat at my table in shorts and polo shirt on a formal night, I would make sure you wouldn't do it again or even last the whole meal without wanting to change or leave and eat somewhere else. But the maître d' shouldn't let them in the restaurant in the first place.
As for me, I will always dress casually whenever possible as I'm on holiday and on a cruise. To each his own. I will comply with dress codes when necessary, but I am not a member of the dress to impress crowd.

No one said anything about wearing shorts and a polo shirt on Formal Night in the MDR. The discussion was dress code on nights other than Formal.

If I were at your MDR table and some unfortunate person was misdirected by the maitre d' and allowed to enter in shorts and join our table, and I had to witness the very poor manners it would take for you to castigate and shame this person, I would have to take myself and my formal gown elsewhere immediately. And it might get a little uncomfortable for some others before I left.

This would be most unfortunate, as I would certainly miss admiring your coordinating bow tie and listening to the discussion about your Royal Navy Crest and badges!
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If I were at your MDR table and some unfortunate person was misdirected by the maitre d' and allowed to enter in shorts and join our table, and I had to witness the very poor manners it would take for you to castigate and shame this person, I would have to take myself and my formal gown elsewhere immediately. And it might get a little uncomfortable for some others before I left.
You are now assuming that I would be bawling and screaming at the poor chap. I have never raised my voice or sworn at another person, and doing this would lose the disagreement straight away. Reeducating someone in the correct procedures and attire needed for certain situations and letting them come to their own decisions on what is right and acceptable, is how the encounter would proceed.
But as you haven't meet me, and don't know me, you jump to the worst possible outcome.

Written text doesn't have a tone and can be misunderstood, for an example of this, is your comment quoted below.
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This would be most unfortunate, as I would certainly miss admiring your coordinating bow tie and listening to the discussion about your Royal Navy Crest and badges!
This can be taken a number of ways. For one instance, it can be read as having a very sarcastic manner and creating a slur on my character and dress sense.
Or it can be taken that it is a genuine feeling on missing out on what could seem to be a very interesting story behind a highly decorated Officer of the Royal Navy. Which I am going to take as what you intended to say, because tone is missing from text.
And hope you agree that without my tone on my original post, you can miss read it as being aggressive, instead of playful and just posting my opinions on the acceptable dress codes of dining options.

It goes to show that these dress codes mean different things to different people and need to be made clearer. On other cruise lines, I have seen them write, Dress Code for Dinner is Smart Casual - and then list what women and men should be wearing, giving examples. But of course this is no good if you haven't packed any acceptable outfits in the first place. But a decent travel agent or Cruise company would tell you about this before you set off.
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We have not sailed with RCCL for several years. I would like to know what the current dress code is for evening meals. Elegant night is a given. I always wear a tux (yes, I am somewhat old fashioned and my wife enjoys dressing up). However I am a little confused with Casual and Smart Casual. Usually on other nights I wear slacks and either a polo shirt or a collared shirt. Can anyone tell if Smart Casual means coat and tie or can I wear what I usually wear to dinner (slacks and shirt)? Is a tie necessary? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Your "casual" attire would be perfectly acceptable on "Smart Casual" evenings. I have cruised for fifteen years and over 40 cruises and I still haven't figured out "Smart Casual". There are those who have their own definition but the "official" definition has been left somewhat vague. If you really want to cover your bases then throw a sport coat, with no tie on and you'll be fine but the odds are you will be over dressed.

The nice part about relaxed dress codes and more stringent smoking policies has been that the long, antagonist, threads about these subjects are disappearing and for that I am thankful.

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See my problem with all this is, that all these dress codes on mainsteam cruising (ie Carnival owned) are in peoples heads only "as that is what the brochure says to expect"

But the true reality is you do what you feel comfotable with to meet the expectation of the night. Given the real reality for the other 2000+ passengers who will do their own version of todays reality regarding dress code. People have their own interpetation of it or either ignore it

You will see it night after night and to be honest the ship will not enforce stopping anyone going into a space that does not meet the dress "suggestion" of the day, as that's all it is now just a suggestion, not a policy, it will not be enforced, has no repercussions for those that dont. Its only there to try and get x number of passengers thinking the same way or how they feel they are being part of the suggestion.

Where it breaks is when they then turn on those that did not feel they had to be part of the suggestion that was not ship policy
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In the last few years the " dress code " has basically slid down hill to where as long as you just wear some clothes, you'll be ok--probably would be stopped if you showed up in a loin cloth and no top but other wise, I wouldn't sweat it. No one else seems to.
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In the last few years the " dress code " has basically slid down hill to where as long as you just wear some clothes, you'll be ok--probably would be stopped if you showed up in a loin cloth and no top but other wise, I wouldn't sweat it. No one else seems to.

Last month I was on the Quantum and men were not let in to The Grande without jackets .That is their Dress attire restaurant.
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Not a true reflection on general dressing for dinner on ship, and why? The Grande as you know is a specialist, totally formal, add a lot of money to your bill restaurant, but for the experience.

You are told up front that EVERY NIGHT in the Grande is formal, so you know before you even get there the rules to enter, simple, if you’re not formal or suitably dressed, then don’t turn up to be embarrassed when they knock you back. And if knocked back, then it says more about you as a person than the speciality restaurant that has a standard they want to meet and keeps it.
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On my post I was referring to main dining room attire on regular nights; not formal nights.
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Smart casual is dead, has been dead for over a decade. On non-formal nights khakis or jeans and a polo is all they ask.
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Smart Casual is far from dead. Jeans can be worn. I think the cruiselines let themselves be beaten down by the masses on this one. But certainly smart casual is the requested attire. Too bad too many can't read.
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We have returned from our cruise on Legends of the Seas. I was pleasantly surprised to see a lot of tuxedos for both elegant nights. Also, for the most part, smart casual was the rule other nights. An exception was made for St. Patrick's Day as many passengers were attired in something green that was other than smart casual. All in all the dining room dress codes were observed.
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Master Chief, did you have a good trip? Other than dressing; how was the actual cruise itself? Any ports stand out?
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Cruise was good. Ship was a little bit shabby (she could use a paint job for one thing), carpets are worn but overall not bad. Food was average in MDR with nothing outstanding. Both elegant nights had prime rib and one had lobster. It was excellent. Other nights were so, so. Crew was extremely friendly especially our Stateroom Attendant. My wife likes to sleep late and he was most accommodating when cleaning up the room. Bonaire and Grenada were ports that we had not been too. Bonaire is a little sleepy place (didn't even have an internet café!) best known for the salt flats and flamingos. If you wanted to disappear from the face of the earth you could probably do it in Bonaire! We did buy some of the crushed sea salt for our use at home. Bonaire is also known for snorkeling and scuba diving. However the seas were rough and stirred up the bottoms pretty much. Grenada is known for its spices especially nutmeg. Took a tour of the nutmeg factory where it is processed for shipping and also to a plantation where it is grown. Quite interesting. On the way down (2 sea days out of Port Everglades to Aruba) we experienced the roughest sea (12-15 ft waves) we have seen in over 20 Caribe cruises. Didn't bother us but some folks were under the weather for the first few days. When we were in Aruba the guide on the tour we took told us that the day before 2 cruise ships were unable to dock because of the high winds. All in all a good trip.
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Thanks for the feedback and update. Have a wonderful day.
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