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I'll be cruising for the first time this November, and I am leaning towards the Carnival Pride (Baltimore-Charleston-Port Canaveral-Nassau-Freeport) but there is also a Norwegian cruise which leave from New York that same week which would be a day shorter (it doesn't stop at Charleston) and cost a little more. If anyone has advice on choosing between these it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I have seen a lot of posts on here recommending using a travel agent to book this, and stating that they do not charge a fee. I am wondering how they are able to stay in business, then?
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Also, I have seen a lot of posts on here recommending using a travel agent to book this, and stating that they do not charge a fee. I am wondering how they are able to stay in business, then?


The cruise lines pay them a commission. It's easier for them than if everyone called them directly.


I never book a cruise without using a travel agent. When a problem comes along they can be very helpful.


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Hello,

I'll be cruising for the first time this November, and I am leaning towards the Carnival Pride (Baltimore-Charleston-Port Canaveral-Nassau-Freeport) but there is also a Norwegian cruise which leave from New York that same week which would be a day shorter (it doesn't stop at Charleston) and cost a little more. If anyone has advice on choosing between these it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I have seen a lot of posts on here recommending using a travel agent to book this, and stating that they do not charge a fee. I am wondering how they are able to stay in business, then?
Which NCL ship? Are the ports the same except for Charleston? If not, what are the NCL ports? The ports probably would be the deciding factor for me. I would not care at all for the Pride itinerary. Any options for some Caribbean ports rather than the Bahamas?

if you are new to cruising, you should probably talk with a TA who specializes in cruises to help you make a decision on ship and itinerary and get you the best deal. You can sometimes end up with more "perks" like additional on board credit with a TA versus booking on your own. In the meantime, read everything you can about cruising, itineraries, ships and cruiselines.
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I would certainly use a good cruise travel agent, especially with this being your first cruise. They are there to help you along the way, answer your questions, and aid with any problems. Like the previous poster mentioned, you can sometimes get some extra perks by booking with a travel agent over booking through the cruiselne.
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Obviously, I'm prejudice on the matter, but if I weren't in the business, knowing what I know now, I would never book a cruise through the cruise line or one of these online sites. A good agent can't be beat - it's like building a good relationship with any other professional you do business with. They'll look after your best interest. If you book with the cruise line and have any problems, who do you think they'll represent? An agent represents you and they charge nothing for their services, so it makes sense to utilize their expertise. Plus, they can help answer questions about all the cruise lines, all the ships, and all the ports. Almost all of the cruise line reps have never even been on a cruise, so they are only there to sell you something.

As for the Pride out of Baltimore versus NCL out of NY, given that the itineraries are similar and the fact I've been on the Pride, then to me it would really depend on the ship.

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Which NCL ship? Are the ports the same except for Charleston? If not, what are the NCL ports? The ports probably would be the deciding factor for me. I would not care at all for the Pride itinerary. Any options for some Caribbean ports rather than the Bahamas?

if you are new to cruising, you should probably talk with a TA who specializes in cruises to help you make a decision on ship and itinerary and get you the best deal. You can sometimes end up with more "perks" like additional on board credit with a TA versus booking on your own. In the meantime, read everything you can about cruising, itineraries, ships and cruiselines.
Nobody is going anywhere from the Northeast except the Bahamas that week, and my sweetheart refuses to fly, so these two are our only options.

The NCL ship is the Breakaway, and ports are New York-Port Canaveral-Great Stirrup Cay-Nassau-New York.

Personally I'm a little bit worried about leaving from New York, being a small town girl, although vising NYC is on my bucket list. Not sure I want to give up a whole day of cruising to pay more unless there is something just so amazing about NCL compared to Carnival or something amazing about Great Stirrup Cay compared to Freeport. Also wondering where we'd leave our car in either case, would it be safe? Baltimore is about a 3 hour drive for us and NYC at least 4.5, so we wouldn't want to ask someone to drop us off and pick us up.

I will look for a travel agent, but I'm not sure there would be a cruise specialist anywhere near Altoona, PA.
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Nobody is going anywhere from the Northeast except the Bahamas that week, and my sweetheart refuses to fly, so these two are our only options.

The NCL ship is the Breakaway, and ports are New York-Port Canaveral-Great Stirrup Cay-Nassau-New York.

Personally I'm a little bit worried about leaving from New York, being a small town girl, although vising NYC is on my bucket list. Not sure I want to give up a whole day of cruising to pay more unless there is something just so amazing about NCL compared to Carnival or something amazing about Great Stirrup Cay compared to Freeport. Also wondering where we'd leave our car in either case, would it be safe? Baltimore is about a 3 hour drive for us and NYC at least 4.5, so we wouldn't want to ask someone to drop us off and pick us up.

I will look for a travel agent, but I'm not sure there would be a cruise specialist anywhere near Altoona, PA.

If you have a full service TA near you, stop by and ask for a cruise brochure for each cruise lines. A TA can maybe give you some insight into the pros and cons of each ship as far as size, amenities, current pricing and promotion comparisons, etc. NCL is currently offering free alcohol packages with bookings, for example, which could save a couple several hundred $$ if you are drinkers. It looks like the Pride is a much older ship, built is 2002 I think, but it was recently refurbished. Breakaway was new in 2013 and probably has twice as many passengers, and lot of dining, shows, and bells and whistles. The Waterfront is wonderfull. Now these things can be seen as pros or cons depending on what you want out of a cruise. It was named "Best New Cruise Ship" by the editors of a cruise website.

I have sailed on the sister ship to the Breakaway, the Getaway, and I loved it, but I can not really make a comparison as I have never been on the Pride. Great Stirrup Key is NCLs private island. I would much prefer that over Freeport, which would be at the bottom of my list of ports. You can also google these two ships and that will give you tons of info including reviews from Travel Writers and Passengers.

We sailed once out of NYC, our first time in the Big Apple, but we flew in. I know there is parking close to the pier, but it is pricey as it is NYC. You may find hotels that offer packages for cruisers, and allow your car to be left there. Look for Park and Fly type offerings. If you do the NYC cruise, I would def come in the day before.
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You don't need to find an agent in your hometown. With the internet, it's not as important as it use to be. Just keep in mind that not all agents are Cruise Specialists. In fact, I know many agents who know nothing about cruising, but will try to convince you they know everything about them.

And as for the two ships, personally, I would be more apt to go on the Breakaway instead of the Pride. Bigger, newer ship, with many more amenities. Plus, keep in mind that anytime you're cruising in the Atlantic, the water can be a bit rough and the bigger and newer the ship is, the better the ride will be.

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You don't need to find an agent in your hometown. With the internet, it's not as important as it use to be. Just keep in mind that not all agents are Cruise Specialists. In fact, I know many agents who know nothing about cruising, but will try to convince you they know everything about them.

And as for the two ships, personally, I would be more apt to go on the Breakaway instead of the Pride. Bigger, newer ship, with many more amenities. Plus, keep in mind that anytime you're cruising in the Atlantic, the water can be a bit rough and the bigger and newer the ship is, the better the ride will be.

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You said earlier that you would never recommend booking through one of those online travel sites, yet here you seem to be saying it's OK. Can you clarify on how a new cruiser can determine which sites are OK? I tend to work with those who only do cruises, or a least primarily. Have never had a bad experience, but perhaps I've been lucky.

I agree with you on the Breakway over the Pride. Was trying to be impartial, but that's hard to do when I love the NCL product so much.
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Wasn't saying to book online, just simply saying that with the internet (mainly talking about emails), it's easy to communicate, so it's not really necessary to find a local agent. In other words, don't feel like you have to deal with someone where you have to walk into their storefront.

I agree it's important to deal with someone who's a Cruise Specialist. Like any profession, those who are specialists tend to be better at it and know more about it than those who aren't specialists.

One way to find any good professional, no matter the industry, is to ask those you trust for referrals. Look at their website and see how professional it looks. Ask alot of questions; how long have they been in business, how many clients do they have, how many cruises have they been on, how many cruise lines have their cruised with, where have they cruised, etc. Just by talking to them you can get a good feel about how they conduct business. If they sound like a salesman, then they usually are. In other words, a good agent should not try to sell you something - they should provide as much information as you can handle so you can make an informed decision on what's best for you.

One thing I always tell people to avoid is someone who is constantly 'recommending'. Keep in mind that we're all different and what one person loves, another will hate. So if they're recommending, it's because they may have liked it, but then again, you may not. Or they're recommending because they get a bigger commission from that cruise line, in which case they have their best interest in mind, not yours.

Keep in mind that it cost you nothing for an agent to assist you. If they do charge a service fee, admin fee, booking fee, or cancellation fee, then find another agent who doesn't. But a good agent can be invaluable because their expertise can not only be very helpful, but sometimes they can find a better rate or an extra amenity for you. They will never charge more than what the cruise line charges and any specials the cruise line is offering will be available through an agent.

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Update: We used a local travel agent and booked the Royal Caribbean Grandeur of the Seas leaving from Baltimore, hitting Orlando, CocoCay, Nassau, and Key West. The travel agent told us that since it is a break from school for kids she didn't really recommend Carnival because it is known as the "Chuck E. Cheese of the Seas."

We booked a guaranteed stateroom or some bs, and I'm a little discouraged/confused about that but the agent said not to worry about it. I don't see anywhere to tell what the entertainment will be on board, is that typical? 39 days to embarkation, paid in full and no turning back....
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Sounds like your agent is definitely not a 'Cruise Specialist'! First, as I always tell people, run from those who 'recommend'. When someone recommends or says they don't recommend something, run the other way. We're all different people and what one person loves, another will hate. So just because an agent doesn't recommend something, is no reason why you shouldn't consider it. After all, it could be exactly what you're looking for. (Guess that's why there are some many pizza joints around.)

As for a 'guarantee' cabin, for her to say it's not something for you to worry about shows me how incompetent they are.

A guarantee cabin means that you will get the type of cabin you wanted (inside, oceanview, or balcony), but you have absolutely no control over where it will be. You could end up anywhere, included places where you don't want to be or may not like; such as in the very front of the ship where you'll feel the most motion of the ocean (and you'll usually feel motion when sailing in the Atlantic out of Baltimore - we've done it 7 times, so we're very familiar with it). Or you could end up under a galley where you may hear heavy pots dropping on the floor at 5:00am! It's like gambling; you're hoping the cards will be dealt in your favor, but there's guarantee.

As long as you understand the nuances of a guarantee cabin and don't have any problems with it, then sometimes you can save some money.

However, with a cabin assignment, you'll know exactly where you'll be; what's across the hall, above you, etc. And often, the rate between a guarantee and a cabin assignment are not that much different. Personally, I'd want to know the differences in price so I could make my own decision. I would not suggest a guarantee cabin for a new cruiser unless I first made sure they knew what they were getting and what could happen. If anyone is prone to motion sickness, then it's something you may not want since, as I said, you could end up in the front of the ship. We do guarantee cabins on a regular basis and we've ended up in some pretty noisy situations.

As for kids onboard, since you're going during Thanksgiving break, yes there will be kids. Too bad, because if you were to have gone the next week, you would have saved alot of money and not have many kids onboard.

As for the entertainment, there's really no way of telling on these type of cruises. There is on the mega ships, but not on these. The main show will be a typical song and dance routine as well as some other types, but definitely nothing to write home about.

Let us know if you have any other questions.

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I logged into my reservation on RC again today, and our room has been assigned. I don't have much faith in the agent we're using, but we managed to luck out because we paid for an inside stateroom and ended up with a large ocean view stateroom, looks to be about 2/3 of the way back. It is only one room away from the elevators though, which I'm hoping won't be too noisy. I'm back to being excited instead of disappointed, but I do still want to do a lot more research on my own over the next few weeks since the TA isn't offering much info.
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Sounds like a decent location, you may like being close to the elevator, hopefully, you won't hear it...Good for you....I've been lucky with booking a guarantee cabin catagory, but never received any upgrade like you....nice...
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I agree with Donna. Sometimes you don't get lucky, but sometimes you do and it sounds like this time, you got lucky.

The elevator area can sometimes be noisy, but other times it's not too bad - depends on the crowd. Just be aware that they have signs by the elevator that say 'when standing here, please talk loudly!'.

Obviously, I'm only kidding, but sometimes it can definitely feel like that.

But to get an upgrade from an inside to an oceanview in the area you're describing is definitely a lucky occurrence. Good for you!

Let us know if you have any questions as there are many great people here to help you. Personally, I've been on the Grandeur of the Seas 4 times, so I've had alot of experience on that ships.

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Let us know if you have any questions as there are many great people here to help you. Personally, I've been on the Grandeur of the Seas 4 times, so I've had alot of experience on that ships.

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Pete, what can you tell me about dining on the Grandeur? The agent told us there would be two formal nights - can we skip out on these? Also, the only available dining was at 8 pm, which for us is a bit late. I have seen some reviews that mention My Time Dining, but when I check RC's website the info there is outdated, and Grandeur is not mentioned there. Do you have any suggestions?

Can you tell me anything about entertainment? Will RC have a schedule on their site at some point, or will it just have to be a surprise after we board?

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The Grandeur offers two types of dining; traditional dining and My Time dining. Traditional dining has two seatings available - early (or main) seating at 5:30pm and late seating at 8:00pm. My Time dining is anytime you want to go between 6:00pm and 9:30.

Traditional dining is where you'll sit at the same table at the same time with the same tablemates and the same waiter every night.

My Time dining is just like going to a restaurant. You show up anytime you want and you'll be asked if you'd like to share a table or not. You'll sit at a different table with different tablemates and different waiter every night. However, you can make reservations at a time you like and even reserve a specific table if you so please.

Now, with all that said, I checked your sailing and the Main Seating and My Time Dining are both booked, so the only thing available is the late seating at 8:00pm. If you prefer a different time, I highly suggest going to see the Matre'd in the main dining room just as soon as you get on the ship. If they can move you to a different time, that's the best time to ask them.

Normally, on an 8-night cruise like yours, there are two formal nights; the 2nd night of the cruise, which will be Sunday, Nov 22nd, and 7th night of the cruise, which will be Friday, Nov 27. However, because this is a Thanksgiving sailing, it's quite possible they may move the formal night to Thursday. There will be a daily newsletter in your cabin every night and it will tell you what the dress is for the next night.

If you prefer not to go to formal night, then you can always go to one of the specialty restaurants (I would suggest getting a reservation ahead of time), order room service (which is complimentary), or you can go to the buffet.

However, formal nights are always when they have the good foods like steak, lobster, prime rib, etc, so it's usually not worth missing.

But don't feel like you have to go out and rent a tuxedo or a formal dress. Formal is not quite as formal as it use to be. Often, I'll just wear a shirt and tie with no jacket. You don't have to worry about it since you're probably driving, but with airline weight restrictions and charges for baggage, many people are just not taking all those extra clothes just for 2 nights.

As for the entertainment, the nightly newsletter is full of great information including all the entertainment for the next day. But they don't post ahead of time on their website who is going to be there and when or what the show is in the main show lounge.

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Pete, thank you so much for this information! We have been stressing out over the formal nights and not wanting to bring special clothes, which means special shoes and undergarments as well for women. And you're right, we will be driving, but I'm a bit worried about having to carry all of our luggage from wherever it is we will have to park to where the ship is. I'm hoping to have just one suitcase on rollers, a backpack, and a handbag. If we bring formal attire, that adds a garment bag as well. And is there an iron in the room?

As for entertainment, I'm afraid we're going to miss a lot of it since our dining is not until 8pm and I've read that it takes 2 hours. So much for all-inclusive... is it just because we booked so late that we weren't able to have any other dining option? Perhaps we'll do a lot of room service so we don't miss shows, etc.

Again, thank you so much for all this valuable information!
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You can also eat in the buffet for dinner as well, it is really good and you can go when you want and don't have to dress, etc. Then you can make the shows you want.. If you do choose to eat in the dinning room later, they always have an earlier show that you can see before dinner...
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Obviously, I'm surprised your 'agent' isn't able to provide some of this information to you, but alas, I'm glad we are here to help.

The parking lot is right beside the pier in Baltimore. So you can drive up, drop off the wife and luggage, and then go park. Or, you can park and walk a very short distance to the pier.

We prefer to do the first option.

As for entertainment, they always have two shows; one for the main seating and one for the late seating. So not to fear, there will be a show for you to enjoy!

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