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Old July 30th, 2004, 08:39 AM
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Too late for NCL, just made "tipping " a service charge, MANDATORY service charge, FLEETWIDE, not just Hawaii.

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Old July 30th, 2004, 10:02 PM
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If people continue to stiff the employees, I predict that ALL ships will go this way.....

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Old August 3rd, 2004, 04:52 PM
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Im sorry, the ships are mostly in international waters, where international rules are counting and not the US !!!
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Old August 12th, 2004, 11:35 PM
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OK. Since you are on the receiving end, you are the person to answer my question. Even with auto tipping, we feel badly not giving our steward, waiter, and asst. waiter an additional envelope at the end of the cruise. It just seems rude. Unless, of course, service has been indifferent or unsatisfactory. So, if we provide these additional tips, do they go into the pool also? We are then paying a far greater tip than the fair recommended amount. If we don't, do we seem unappreciative? How do we let our steward, waiter, asst. waiter, etc. know that their particular service was deeply appreciated? Help!
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Old August 13th, 2004, 05:29 AM
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Actually, Chip, this ships have a culture of their own, separate from the United States, and is that ships culture that you are expected to live in accordance with when you're on-board.

kubies: As far as I know, every pooled tipping system recognizes those that bring more funds into the pool in some way, commensurate with how much a single person can control the quality of their own service.
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Old August 13th, 2004, 11:15 AM
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Kubies,
It would do your server etc. ALOT more good if you wrote a LETTER praising their excellant service, that goes on their service record and helps with promotions.
Saying thank you is also a nice way of letting them know you enjoyed their service.

Why do some peple think that money is the only way to say anything.?
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Old August 13th, 2004, 02:09 PM
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It is very true that money is not the only way of saying anything. However, it is, practically-speaking, the only way to pay for things. So to the extent the server relies on tips to pay for things, money is appreciated.
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Old August 13th, 2004, 08:05 PM
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So tips are wages.
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Old August 14th, 2004, 08:28 AM
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Well, I think we're (finally) getting into symantics. But here it is: All money received for work done is "wages". Wages is made up of "salary," "gratuities," and "non-cash compensation". (Non-cash compensation, though, doesn't include "thank yous" -- it is specifically compensation that is not cash but has a cash value.)
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