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Old February 1st, 2002, 02:43 PM
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I loved Kuki's article and all the comments made below. I am sort of in-between on the issues. I follow the ship's rules or options as to formal dinner attire, but I do change to dress slacks and a nice sports shirt to go to the casino or show after dinner. This is becuse I am very uncomfortable wearing a coat and tie in a hot theatre.

Now, as to the thing about men wearing hats: it doesn't bother me to see baseball caps on men, I could care less if that is their choice. However, I am curious as to why they do it. I can understand the use of a baseball cap to protect a person's head from the sun or to keep it warm in cold weather ( I don't care for my shiny scalp to turn bright red), but I wonder what purpose is served by wearing them indoors all the time, even at formal dinner. Perhaps the caps have grown on the heads or have been permanently attached. Are they worn into the shower or in bed at night? Perhaps we could take a survey.
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Old February 1st, 2002, 04:30 PM
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AMEN Paul, I just con't figure out why they have to wear them indoors?

What are they keeping out of their eyes, certainly not the sun?

Or are they trying to hide their balding head? Like when we see a guy with a hat on inside we can't figure that out already?
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Old February 1st, 2002, 04:33 PM
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Why? Being a Marine for 21 years, Part of the uniform was a "cover"...however I never wore a cover (hat) off duty. Since we began to cruise, I collect hats (ball cap type) from different ports of call. I would never wear one at dinner. About the only time I wear one of my many hats is on cruise in casual dress......especially in the casino....I have found through trial and error that I am more likely to win when I am covered <G>. What I hate to see is ratty, dirty, worn out hats being worn.
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Old February 1st, 2002, 05:37 PM
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I spent 20 yars in the USAF and had to wear a flat cap(won't use the slang name for it) outside. However, I was always happy to take the darn thing off as soon as I could. I do remember as a kid that most men wore regular hats, but they never wore them inside anywhere. Things do change. Maybe I should wear a cap or maybe even antlers inside the casino. Nothing else seems to work.
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Old February 1st, 2002, 05:38 PM
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Paul;
I wear a cap most of the time when I am outdoors. When you have as little hair as I do you need to protect the head from the sun and cold. I also collect baseball type caps. I have a baseball cap of every major league team and about 30 more.

In regards to wearing a cap at dinner. I was taught a long time ago that you never where your hat at the dinner table. That includes a formal table or picnic table.

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Old February 1st, 2002, 05:57 PM
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You got that right.
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Old February 1st, 2002, 06:08 PM
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I remember when gentlemen used to tip their hats to ladies. And those were REAL hats.

WOW, am I old. I was in a convenience store the other day and and old codger actually tipped his hat to me. I was tempted to kiss him but I was afraid he might stroke out.

When we still had kids at home, there was a hat rack near the front door. No caps/hats were allowed past my front door.

Queeg's theory is that when the baseball cap is worn backwards it decreases IQ points by a factor of .25. I think he may be right on that one.

My brother, a baldish kind of fellow, almost always wears a cap or other snappier head gear. But he takes it off when he hits my front door.

It goes straight back to what Kuki said about respect.
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Old February 1st, 2002, 06:42 PM
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hello,

Don't know if anyone noticed this quite a while ago, and occasionally now....wearing the baseball cap with the tag still prominently displayed.......
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Old February 2nd, 2002, 08:10 AM
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I, too, am a 20 year vet of the USAF. I wear baseball caps a lot, for sun & cold protection, having worn off most of the hair by friction ;-)
But don't wear one at dinner, etc. The only reasons for wearing one to dinner, IMHO, would be to cover recent scarring, or to show one's lack of civility. I also think those who wear their caps backwards, or at some weird "yo, bro" (said with hands in a weird, downward pointing configuration) angle look ridiculous. We have one USAF Captain up here who wears his backwards (when out of uniform) to show his "solidarity" with the younger troops. If he only knew that his younger troops (all of which are older than him) think he looks like an idiot, maybe he'd stop, but I doubt it.
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In some cases today baseball caps are part of the outfit and are not necessarily worn to protect the head from the sun or to hide baldness. Rick says he scores in the casino more when wearing his hat......the hat may be his good luck charm!

I always dress formal in the dining room, wearing my tux every night. But before I proceed to the casino I always stop by the cabin and get my baseball cap. I spread a little grease on the brim, turn it around backwards, pull my boxers up so they're hanging out of my waist band, put on unlaced oversize tennis shoes and wear my sunglasses. I used to take my boom box but I had to stop doing that since my last cruise the crap table was full and the dealer wouldn't let me set it on the table when I was rolling the dice.

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Old February 2nd, 2002, 01:32 PM
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Lets walk down memory lane.......rock and roll is evil and will cause young kids to do bad things....long hair is evil and disrespectful....Only girls have long hair.....the mini skirt is a sin....only young men with nothing else going for them join the armed forces......Elvis is lewd.......pregnant un married girls are sluts..men with an ear ring are gay...etc etc....point is that things always change..attitudes change.....parents complain about how their kids dress.....but still buy the kids the clothes they object to. lol..I need that silver tongue devil Warren to help me out here....He would have the right words here. The only thing for sure in life is change. some of you need to quit living in the past and deal with the world the way it is, not the way you would like it to be. Tipping my hat to SA
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Thomas..sounds like you dress like a lot of future CEO's lol
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Old February 2nd, 2002, 02:04 PM
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All those things you mentioned are true , and evil things will come to pass for those who indulge in them. However, you forgot to mention tatoos and body piercing. These will make your skin rot away and, and your cap will slide off your scalp. I would never wear a baseball cap or hat of any kind inside primarily because they are uncomfortable, and , when others do, I grab them, run outside, and throw them in the ocean. Then I run real fast.
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I enjoyed reading the posts re: USAF & USMC and hats. My late husband was in both the MC (4yrs) and AF (18yrs). I seem to remember something about going into the club on base "covered" and having the bell rung!! That meant buying everyone a round of drinks. Are the cruise lines listening??

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Old February 3rd, 2002, 01:08 PM
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I plead guilty--I wear a baseball type cap most of my waking moments. It's not to cover up baldness, since I'm not bald. It's really become a matter of habit that I don't even think much about anymore, but I don't smoke or drink, so hope you all will forgive me this one terrible vice, if you should ever run into me on a future cruise! Anyhow, my wife will make me take off my cap at the dinner table.
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Old February 3rd, 2002, 07:48 PM
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Interesting reading and hats at the table are just poor manners. Wear them all day and even indoors if you want, but take them off to eat dinner at least. My late mother was a terror on the hat business and did not hesitate to walk by and tip mens off by the bill as she walked by if they had them on when they were eating, she was a pistol. The next thing was raggedy clothes but I won't go there because that involved some of my father's and mine most embarrassing moments. Susan will be cruisin' on the Summit
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I too am retired from the Air Force after 21 years and developed a marked distaste for wearing hats during that period. I wear a baseball cap when supporting my beloved Eagles (wait until next season!!!) and thats about it. My only gripe is that anyone over the age of 21 wearing a cap backwards(like Terry Bradshaw) comes off looking like a dork unless they are a catcher waiting to take the field at the end of the inning.

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Old February 10th, 2002, 09:26 PM
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Paul,

Now, as to the thing about men wearing hats: it doesn't bother me to see baseball caps on men, I could care less if that is their choice.

This subject actually strikes at the heart of another matter of social ettiquette that's too often ignored in our society. The general rule is that men should not wear hats indoors (or, on a ship, below decks) -- though it is sometimes considered acceptable to wear a hat in a hall (passageway) when entering or leaving. In any case, a gentleman does not wear a hat (1) in a restaurant or dining room, especially during meal hours, with the exception of a chef's hat, and (2) in a hospital or other medical facility, or in the bedroom of a sick person (historically, out of reverence for the dying).

Alas, manners seem to be in very short supply in modern society....

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