I love the mother and father who pretend that the screaming child is not theirs, the brilliant parent who brings a diapered baby into the pool or hot tub, the parent that feels the need to bring a small baby on a cruise (especially one that does not sleep at night), the parents that say that it's a family vacation then hands over the kids to someone else to spend most of the days and evenings with. God save me from the parent who feels that their precious one is perfect, my baby, child, teen always behaves on a cruise, ya right! I took my teens on a cruise but not without some major threats, they had fun but we kept a watchful eye without being in their face, we all enjoyed that cruise.
Every post I've read on this board regarding "little darlings" has been from parents who "would never let my kid do that", were "always behaved and other people commented on how well behaved they were", had "strict rules and they were followed and were a delight to be with!" Please, I want somebody, anybody, to post that their kids were absolute terrors and will never be allowed to cruise again until they reach 35; or explain to me how those little monsters always end up on my cruises.
Did I forget to mention that that was the first and last time my teens cruised, my husband and I decided that cruising was for quality time with each other, and family vacations were for Disney type places. They knew that we were watching them during the cruise, it's hard to act up when mom and dad are everywhere. Now they are 30something and can afford their own cruise and neither one wants to bring little ones, guess who gets them while mom & dad are cruising. We get to spoil them rotten and then hand them back to their parents. Ain't life grand. :-)
Well, I am taking my two daughters on their first cruise this June on the Paradise. They are 13 and 17 so a bit older than the usual crowd. Plus the only excursions we are doing are scuba diving, so if they can cause anyone problems at 90 feet, then I will be very surprised.
Hooray for you. I feel much better now. Disney is a better venue for the "little darlings." Of course before we get slammed (jump in here Rick) we are talking about toddlers and not children old enough to understand the meaning of a parent's glare and do realize there are prices to pay for misbehaving.
Thomas I agree. There is nothing worse than having toddlers running around and their parents ignoring them. I don't know how many times I have seen that happen. I guess it comes down to the "It's my vacation and we paid for our tickets as well as you" mentality.
Thomas gezzzzzzz what is going on here!!!!!?????? I gotta spend more time here and less at the porn sites.....missing a lot here <G>. Who is this Tigger person??? He or she should not hold back...let it out. Pssstttt Kuki.....keep an "eye" on this one . I will return (hummmm I like that...sounds familiar) ...researching Celebrity Millie for Apr 20, 2003.
Same old same old. The "little darlings" from hell are always somebody else's kids. Nobody on this board ever brought an unruly toddler on the ship. But Tigger struts. The only one that can admit to a mistake that happened once, and only once.
And Gaines is correct. The attitude of the parents is the root cause of the problem. I would never blame the kids for being kids. It's the parents who don't respect the other guests and let the kids be intrusive who are the problem. Agree?
I must say the little darling are not the ony ones that make trouble onboard. Two persons both in their fifties. A women in a wheel chair and a man got into a big fight on the Explorer of the seas a few weeks ago. Both were removed. So I think it's not just children who make a mess of things. My sons (ages 3 and 5) sat and ate their dinner. They had to listen to two women who had no problem telling us about the little pictures on their asses. So when you complain about the little darlings, don't forget to mention the stupid loud adults.
I am woman, I am invincible and I strut very nicely thank you very much. Don't remember saying mine were perfect, but what the heck, mine were perfectly normal teens, 14 & 17 to be exact, honor students in high school, deans list in college, respected professionals in the community. Guess I did something right, somewhere along the line when they morphed from brats to typical teens to truly nice people.
My post was about the PARENTS that either ignore the crying/screaming/whining child, or brag about their family vacation but never see the kids for the entire week. I usually bribe my kids, it effective but expensive.
Rick, I thought that this was the gripe board????? Just a second let me look and see, I might have taken a wrong turn. "Nope, I didn't, I guess you can gripe about just certain subjects, oh my, how boring".
Yep.its the gripe board. I am just one of those people who find beauty in everything and fault in nothing <G>. Actually, I agree with you and Thomas. BUT please don't give me that..."I am Woman...Hear me roar......" I am a dangerous man BUT those words scare the heck out of me. IMHO liberation of women was a mistake .
A reminder here folks.. personal attacks are not allowed on the message boards. Discussion, even on the Cruise Gripes message board, should take a mature and helpful approach. And certainly some tongue in cheek humor is welcome. That is what ALL our message boards are for!!!
The VAST majority of posters love cruising, and enjoy sharing their cruise experiences.
BUT, If you check the search feature, you'll find some people post almost exclusively to Cruise Gripes, and aren't attempting to share any discussion or sharing of information. They're just trying to "stir the pot" because they're presumably bored, or seeking attention.
IMHO the best response to that type of "discussion" is none at all!!!
Kuki, thanks for your valuable imput. As always, you have your finger on the "pulse" of the boards. Thanks for being ever vigilant in your search for bored people who only try to "stir the pot". Maybe it would help if the board was renamed "SERIOUS Gripes Only" IMHO.
Whoa...........Kuki. Was your post a response to Rick"s "IMHO liberation of women was a mistake" post? If so, I don't think it was a personal attack as he did state it was opinion, which I believe is within the board parameters. If not, keep up the good deleting powers.
Thomas, my response was to a post in this thread, which I deleted basically calling Tigger names.
IMO Rick has actually become a full fledged member of our CM community. Trying to share his cruise experiences and have some fun at the same time. You can see Rick posts all over the message boards, so it should have been obvious from my post, I wasnt talking about him <G>
O.K. I wasn't sure since your post immediately followed Rick's. Maybe you could let us know the target of your comments are or are not referring to the post you are linked to? But then again, I think Rick has pushed your delete button in the past even if he is a CM member. <VBG>
Kuki I do get and give info on this board but such strong words as stupid parents goes beyond mere griping. It's insulting. Tigger did not use one incident of which she noticed onboard any ship. It was a general gripe. I have seen many incidents on cruise ships which demonstrate bad behavior. A particular age does not stand above the rest. Tigger bragged and used the " I am woman, hear me roar" line. What does this got to do with cruise gripes? I saw many terrific kids and parents on the Explorer of the Seas two weeks ago. Most parents do a fine job teaching their kids proper manners. The only bad manners I saw were two fifty somethings that got into a fight the evening after St. Thomas and were kicked off with their parties at San Juan. The ship's skipper made it a point to remind us of the code of conduct after that incident.
I leave my kids with grandparents while I cruise, but I've never been bothered by someone else's kids either. I cruise during school vacation and pick big ships with plenty to keep kids busy. Either I'm lucky or have a high tolerance.
Its definatly NOT the kids. I was just in a local candy store. Mon sent her 8 yr old in and parked blocking the door. Shortly she came in and told him to hurry. He said I'm waiting my turn. She told him to BUTT IN!!!. As I left I without nasty words expressed my opinion of her child rearing practices and the invective shot at me if reprinted here would cause this post to be deleated. Horay for modern "parents" and I is one. Mine are now 23/27 and both teach, 3rd grade and at risk High schoolers. Both say I would have killed them if I got calls from a teacher that they make weekly/daily about one student or another. Parental response to these calls appear to be nil.
Not to be rude or anything, but I have been on cruise ships all my life since I been four. I have always been well behaved. You adults really under estimate us kid/teens. I guess it depends on how you raise your child. I agree that some younger children like babies who can't sleep through the night be excluded,but you should ALWAYS have some quality time with your children.You should enjoy watching them grow up there only going to be a child once.