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Old February 23rd, 2003, 09:14 PM
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After my first cruise with carnival and the problems I had trying to get a coke with those darn fountain cards I figured I would bring my own. NOT. Here's what Carnival has posted on it's website.



What are your alcohol and consumption policies?
Effective February 2003:

Guests are prohibited from bringing beverages of any kind (alcoholic and non-alcoholic) on board the ship for consumption. This includes: sodas, juices and bottled water.
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Old February 24th, 2003, 10:00 AM
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Guess that is another reason not to cruise on Carnival again.
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Old February 24th, 2003, 01:19 PM
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they are posting that you can't bring bottled water on board??? how ridiculous. So happy that we are cruising Princess.
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You Can afford to cruise but you cant afford to buy a soda when you want one. That would be like going into a nice supper club and taking a can of soda with you because you dont want to pay the price they would charge you. Wow. Char
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Char you said it perfect!
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Old February 26th, 2003, 03:57 PM
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Maybe it's not that they can't afford the soda. Many times the preferred drink is just not offerred. The only soft drink I drink is diet coke, (caffiene free per doctor's orders). Maybe they have it, maybe they don't. I would want to bring a 12 pack just in case for cabin consumption only. And the same thing goes for my son's nutritional drinks. If that puts me as low class in your book, so be it. And I don't think it would be like bringing a can of soda into a nice supper club...unless you brought it to the dinner table. Under that logic if a person stayed in a five star hotel and wanted some pretzels
that they had in the car while traveling, it would not be proper to bring them into the hotel room. Just my opinion, as you are entitled to yours.

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I am not putting anyone down for this. I am just saying the cruise lines have to make some money too. I dont care for any coke products. I am a Pepsi girl. Also i do drink Caffeine free diet Pepsi. But I get my self some diet sprite and I am just fine for the 7 day cruise. I have seen people taking cases of water , beer and soda on ship and it is no wonder that the cruise lines are clamping down. They would over look some things but it is getting to the point where every one is carrying so much on board now. The old addage is give a inch and they take a mile. It is true. Just everyone go and have a great cruise. Enjoy relax! Char
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Old February 26th, 2003, 10:00 PM
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Soon it really won't matter which line you sail on, they will all be "clamping down" on bringing aboard all these drinks.

I am not putting anyone down either but it's hard to figure that a lot of people will blow hubdreds in the casino, on goofy photos, shore excursions, etc., and then try to save it all back on a few cans of pop or by trying to smuggle on enough beer to last a week.

Some folks will wear the same two outfits all week so they can have more room in the luggage for drinks.---go figure.
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Old February 27th, 2003, 06:52 AM
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I too am amazed about peoples obsession with bringing drinks. If you do not want to pay for booze and soda, there is plenty of coffee, tea, lemonaid, water to drink. So I don't think anyone will dehydrate on board. Honestly the only people I could see who would be obsessed with bringing booze is possibly someone that is a alcholic, then I could imagine it would be difficult for. I am not putting down alcholics..its a disease and my grandad was a alcholic..so don't anyone jump down my throat defending alcholics. I could see how they would have a tough time with booze prices.
But everyone else just cause they like Pepsi and the ships serve coke, to them I say get over it, you will not die the week of your cruise without your Pepsi.
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Another point to consider is those who like to have a nightcap in their room before bed. Imagine getting cozy with your spouse and the clothes are coming off. You would like to have a glass of wine or a cocktail. Without having some in your room you have to dress and trapse across the ship to find a bar. Or call room service and wait 30 minutes for one to arrive.

It's just easier and more convenient to mix one on the spot. Some people are not bringing it on board to economize.

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Old February 27th, 2003, 02:16 PM
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Thomas, if one is at the point of the clothes coming off and then decides to have a drink, I think they are in need of more than a nightcap !!
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Old February 27th, 2003, 10:01 PM
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Thomas...just take it out of your frig. Mix it with the bottle you ordered from room service.

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Old February 28th, 2003, 07:12 AM
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O.K. for wine. But I don't drink wine.

The point is sometimes it is not convenient to leave the room or have someone come to the room to procure a drink. It's a different reason for bringing a bottle along than the reason of avoiding high bar bills.

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Thomas, I understand your point. But it is those that have taken advantage of the fact that the cruise lines have been lenient and have brought on cases of water soda and beer and slipped a bottle of booze in a carry on and what not all. that is why the cruise lines are clamping down. Because some people must bend the rules all the way back. There are people out there that are bringing most of there own drinks to save a few bucks. That has hurt it for the rest of you that like to bring just a wine to have in your room at night. We cant blame the cruise lines for all of this. It has always been a rule and now they feel they have to inforce it more. Char
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Old February 28th, 2003, 10:34 AM
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Maybe the cruiselines could just do away with bars and bartenders. Let everyone bring all the soda, booze and water they want onboard!!!!! Gee....then maybe they could make room for more deck chairs!!!!! It'd probably allow space for more cabins which could result in more complainers!!! hehehehehe

Please.....don't take me seriously!!!!!! I'M JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!! <VBG>

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I agree.

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Old February 28th, 2003, 11:25 AM
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The cruise lines could just include everything in the cost of the cruise. Tips, booze, soda, whatever.
Of course the cost of the cruise would skyrocket but there would be no need for smuggling.
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Old February 28th, 2003, 11:44 AM
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I find it a challenge to find different ways to get alcohol on board at each port. On my last trip to Alaska I ended up SMUGGLING more on board then I could drink. As far a not giving the cruise line their profits from my alcohol consumption, I paid my passage and I will have a drink in my cabin if I like. If I want to sit on my balcony and drink so be it.
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I've read a lot of boards & people have had problems using the RCI Cocktail card. They are suppose to be good for 12 house/call brand cocktails, domestic beer and house wine by-the-glass. Some bar tenders won't let them use the card & charge them for a drink. Or won't allow them to use it in the dinning area. Has anyone come across this? I plan on buying the card, plus having a little travel airline size bootle for a night cap if I choose to. I have no intention of bringing a liquor store in my bags, but I don't think this will kill their profits. If a bar tender refuses to give me a drink that I have already paid for then I will complain to the purser or customer service.
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Mr. Witt: Why so hard on the cruise lines? They have just as much a right to make a profit as Boeing. Boeing charges for more than just planes, missiles, and the like. Imagine if they couldn't get reimbursed for the benefits they provide for their employees.



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Some people have particular reasons to want to bring a type of drink on board, such as an attachment to a particular type of soda that is not offered on board. But it seems to me that most of the people who want to bring their own drinks on board want to smuggle in alcohol so that they can pay liquor store rather than bar prices for drinks. This is rather like showing up at a bar with a hip flask. The cruise lines depend on liquor sales for a significant segment of their profit. They *could* include the price of alcohol in the cruise, but that would mean that people who have a drink or two per day, like me, would have to subsidize those who want to spend their cruise drinking themselves into a stupor. Frankly, I prefer the current system--where I can keep my alcohol bill down by limiting my indulgence.
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Well, when you read about folks who take on board cases of beer and soda, no wonder Carnival has a new policy. People very often ruin it for themselves. Carnival,just like another other cruiseline, hotel or restaurant is a business. They base profits on the sale of alcohol, food and services. If people just take their own then they lose profit. Maybe a better alternative would be to raise the base price of the cruise and allow folks to take their own food and drink.
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I might agree with that, but it would be hard for the cruiseline to change. It is very competitive in the industry and if one raises their prices the others are going to have a windfall of customers signing up.

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Yes Thomas, I agree with you. It would be interesting to see the stats on how much each ship loses because people take their own refreshments? I have not heard yet if Carnival has started to inforce the policy. I also wonder if or how long it will be until people start dropping Carnival because of the restriction?
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I read this gripe with some detachment because I never have and never will smuggle drinks on board. However, when I read comments like to them I say get over it and cruise lines depend on liquor sales I have to interject. Just because you purchase a ticket to cruise on their ship, it doesn't mean the cruise line has exclusive access to your wallet! They have no more right to your bar allowance than they have to your photo processing budget. There's no more reason to discriminate against those who want to purchase their own drinks than those who want to purchase their own shore excursions. It's a free market and it won't get better for the consumer if people start submitting to restrictions. You get over it!



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I agree that a primary reason is the profit motivation. However, I can't help but wonder if another purpose is to control the alcohol comsumption of some of the guests. I have heard complaints of the falling down drunks, guests passed out in hallways etc. Personally I have seen drunks but not to this extreme on my cruises. But Carnival does have the reputation for this, deserved or otherwise.
When allowing beverages on board for in-cabin drinking, wink wink... they have lost control. When guests imbibe at the bars then the bartenders can somewhat control the consumption of the patron, even if it means watering down their drinks. What do you think? Could this be some justification in this "sue happy society"?
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Old March 2nd, 2003, 01:06 PM
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If the cruise line doesn't allow me to bring my diet Pepsi on board because they think they are losing money, they are mistaken. I have never bought a can or glass of soda on any ship. My wife and I will just drink iced tea instead of our Pepsi. Also, I can't understand why anyone would want to take bottled water aboard a ship anyway. The drinking water aboard all the new ships is probably a better quality than what is in the bottle.
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Let me just say it and forget about the flack. The REAL reason this line has made this move is a hidden "back door" price increase. As I sit here at my computer drinking the Diet Coke I bought at retail in a 12 pack for less than 20 cents, and think about how the lines charge between $1.50 and $3.50 per (depending on when and where, plus tip, of course), this conclusion becomes obvious. Any reader of Consumer Reports, a non-profit publication of Consumers Union, knows well that consumer advocates are diametrically opposed to such hidden price increases, and that is my objection as well. This trend of making everything "extra" on mass market lines is even more insideous than most hidden price increases, as it is virtually impossible for the consumer to calculate the increase BEFORE the final bill comes, and then it is too late.

Such matters raise another question. As Carnival has "changed the rules" without notice, are they allowing customers who booked last month for cruises sailing next month to cancel without penalty?

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Sorry for posting after myself, but Mrs. Babe Ruth had a thought I just could not resist posting. She believes it won't be long fefore Carnival starts charging for water at dinner. I thought it was absurd at first, but, on second thought, it would be their next logical move, wouldn't it?

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There are many revenue streams for the cruiselines other than just alcohol and people who contribute to these streams are subsidizing the ones who don't.

Bingo
Art auctions
Photographs
Shore excursions
Casino
Specialty coffee
Gift shops
Photo processing
Sodas

If you partake in any of the above you are contributing to the revenues which allow the cruiseline to offer cheaper tickets. People shouldn't just single out alcohol sales when debating this arguement.

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