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CruisinDenise May 7th, 2003 10:15 PM

Stay home if you're FAT!
Or go on Carnival. Right? This is a common thread I've noticed on cruise boards and it disgusts me. The latest was in the recent 'ugly americans' thread:

"I cringe when I see fat touristy women and men in polyester pants suits asking and talking loudly to the they are talking to a handcapped child, etc. It disgusts me."

Like skinny touristy women act better? Why throw in the fat joke?

The numerous threads of 'cover up your body if you're fat' (like fat women shouldn't enjoy being pleasantly cool because they're there for your pleasure) and, the infamous, 'so many fat people on Carnival I won't cruise on them again'. With all the fat discrimination, it's OBVIOUS that they have less money to cruise, and has been documented in numerous studies. If you are overweight, you will most likely not get the job over someone who is not. It doesn't in any way, shape or form mean that they don't deserve it, are not cultured, and are not classy, wonderful people.

Heads up, folks. What's on your T.V. is not reality. What's on your cruise ship is.

I could go into a 40-page diatribe on endocrinology, diabetes, glucose intolerance, the misinformation of the 'food pyramid', the graining of America and the fallacy of the low-fat diet for all body types, but I won't.

Instead, I'll just tell you that the most high-born, intelligent, kind, fancy, sophisticated lady I know is overweight and swims. In a swimsuit. And could afford a Crystal cruise a week for life.

So stop it already. It's low class and insulting. The Queen of England probably swims too.


Char May 7th, 2003 11:51 PM

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I agree with you. Some of the posts are so rude. I am heavy and I enjoy cruising very much. Believe me I dont wear a bikini. But I enjoy going in the hot tub and pool and resting on the deck chairs too. I dont consider myself any less a person because i am a bigger woman. I am always clean and neat. We make a moderate income and choose to cruise for our vacations. Some of the people who worry about such things as fat people are low life people need to sit down and take an assesment of them selves. They are very shallow people and may need to rethink there way of life .. HAHA Char

Sooshie May 8th, 2003 08:52 AM

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I too agree that people should take a good look in the mirror and realize that being skinny or thin does not make them a good person. One thing I do have to say in their defense is there are some people (thin or heavy) wearing clothes that they obviously should not be wearing. If you are going to go on cruises (or anywhere for that matter)and are a little challenged in the weight department, please wear clothes that fit you and that suit your body type.

LisaK May 8th, 2003 09:50 AM

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if you are smart, whitty, fun, well-groomed and a well-mannerd person i don't care if you are purple and have horns coming out of your head I will want to get to know you.

Paul B May 8th, 2003 11:22 AM

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There's nothing wrong with fat men either. Inside every skinny person, where is a fat one trying to get out.

Andrew May 8th, 2003 11:45 AM

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Too many people worry about too many OTHER people. Mind your own business is a pretty good way to live. Do I see people wearing things that they "shouldn't"? Sure, but who am I to say? Glass houses and everything.

If you're big, or small, or pasty white, or freckled, or whatever, do what YOU want to do and consider the opinions of others (including me) as totally irrelevant. If you want to wear a bikini, wear it. If I want to wear Mickey Mouse sunglasses, I will.

Live your life for YOU, not for the nameless, faceless cretins out there.

Set2cruz May 8th, 2003 05:00 PM

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Bravo Denise, I noticed many large people on my cruise, as well as, short, skinny, tall, black, white and brown. Makes no difference to me what people look like, we all aren't of perfect body (myself included) so I find that accepting people for who they are, instead of ignoring them or commenting on what they are, makes life so much more enjoyable. Don't you agree? Besides I believe that inside of everyone is a beautiful person. Just get to know them.

Rick May 8th, 2003 06:46 PM

Re: Stay home if you're FAT!
Being obese is the US is close to being the norm. That said, I accept people for who they are not what they look like.

Thomas May 8th, 2003 08:37 PM

Re: Stay home if you're FAT!
Send all your fat people to me.


belgique May 8th, 2003 10:14 PM

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Thank God I'm PERFECT! Have to post this quickly before I get caught lying on the internet.

Ron May 8th, 2003 11:06 PM

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I used to be "hefty " and got tired of wasting my time on diets---so, I got stretched 6" and now I'm tall and slender.

Mikey Sr. May 9th, 2003 07:14 PM

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I think people are just too vain today and think everyone must walk their path. A part of the me generation way of living. Who care what people look like. Besides heavy women make better lovers. Skinny women are only into themselves. LOL

Sue Sue May 10th, 2003 10:30 AM

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Hey, not everyone can be perfect! If folks are looking around their cruise ship for fat people they are certainly wasting a lot of precious cruise time. I am too busy having fun, meeting new people, relaxing, enjoying different meals and activtities to care about how fat or skinny people are. (This includes enjoying the top optional deck) Nor do I care what someone else is thinking about "who" or "what" I am. I also do not save chairs, run in the halls or talk or act rudely . The only thing I ask of fellow cruisers is that they would have some consideration and do the same for me and the other 2000 guests and 1000 crew members on board.

TamiM May 12th, 2003 12:14 AM

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I hope there are LOTS of fat people on my ship to keep me company! lol!


Paul B May 12th, 2003 11:04 AM

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Fat people are essential to help weigh down the ship and keep it tcruising smoothly. On the other hand, they displace all the water in the hot tub!

Jennatwork May 13th, 2003 01:29 PM

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"Besides heavy women make better lovers. Skinny women are only into themselves"

Mikey Sr...have you watched Ricky Lake or Jerry Springer lately? Seems to be many heavy women that are in to themselves also, lol.

If everyone looked the same then it wouldn't be any fun to people watch and if everyone acted the same we wouldn't have anyone to argue with, what a boring place it would be to live.

glalonzo May 13th, 2003 06:44 PM

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It would seem to me that these people "looking for fat people" sure are wasting their precious cruise time.....Don't they have anything better to do?

GeorgiaGirl May 14th, 2003 06:21 AM

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This was probably written by people that could not either bigger or small women to look at them. I may not be a size 6 anymore but I still do have taste. They say beauty is only skin deep. Like my daddy use to sayl that person just fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch all the way down, ugly clear to the soul.

norma May 17th, 2003 01:59 PM

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wow - I didn't know so many people were watching me as i cruise along on the cruisehip...what a topic..I am aware of my size and I choose not to wear bathing suits or shorts when I am in public - I AM uncomfortable, but I am also aware of people lookng at me as though I am some sort of a freak, especially in the dining rooms or buffets - how sad for them..but it does affect me..but, the good news, my family and friends love me just the way that I they are the ones that matter, I guess I am ok afterall

Sodell May 17th, 2003 08:42 PM

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I'm one of those "skinny" people. Trust me, after giving birth 3 times, no dedicated excercise..I've got plenty of jiggle no one wants to see. ( so do the rest of those skinny babes). I've learned to hide it all these years.

SRobinM June 1st, 2003 02:07 PM

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I hope there are lots of "fat" people (like me) on my cruise. I have hypothyroid and I've finally stablized after increasing my synthetic thyroid hormone for a year. I've now lost 15 of the 65 lb i gained in 6 months, 3 years ago. My boyfriend on the other hand is 5'5" (I'm 5'2" and about 170 lb...was 186) and he weighs 140 with a muscular build. He's one of those people who's gonna look around and say look at all the fat people. I just wanna be able to punch him on the arm and say this is real life not BAY WATCH!!!!! I went to south beach at my 186 and there were girls in thongs going topless and I realized I may have felt for a moment like a beached whale but then I was too busy enjoying myself to worry about them and if they were worried about me that's their problem. Thanks for this post! It's just good to know there are other REAL people out there!

kimberly June 2nd, 2003 01:10 PM

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I've read through these comments and although I don't agree with criticizing someone for their weight, I do think people should realize their limitations when it comes to clothing. Some women on a cruise I just returned from did not know theirs. I am sorry, but if you have a fat roll hanging over your bikini bottom, don't wear it. Seeing someone's tummy jiggle over as they walk is not a pretty thing. I am not a "skinny" girl and I wear a tankini that covers the places that need covering. If people followed that simple rule, everyone would have a much happier cruising experience.

cruisequeen June 5th, 2003 09:00 AM

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I'm a "little person" and you should hear some of the comments I have gotten. I don't make fun of or chide anyone and I hate it when others do. I'm always hear people refer to me as "One of those people" or "That kind". roodness it never pleasant. I was asked once if I was allowed to be in the casino! Just because I'm short doesn't mean that I can't gamble. Live in my world for a while and I doubt you'd ever say snide remarks about some one again.

PJ June 5th, 2003 02:18 PM

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You know - a cruise is to be enjoyed. Anyone who gets upset because of the way another person looks should have saved the money from the cruise to pay for a psychologist to get them over this aversion to other peoples looks before they board a ship with a thousand other people. We come in all sizes, and we're all entitled to enjoy our trips.

CruiseKing June 5th, 2003 02:26 PM

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"Beauty is not found in face nor form,
But in carriage
and countenance."

Haiku by Glenn Vowell

ashley108 June 23rd, 2003 11:19 PM

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OMG! When will all of this ever end....never! cruise=fun, and thats all it should be!
To many people ragging on others cause they want to save a penny, how much they tip, what to wear, how to act, what to do, bringing aboard a alc drink,and for the people that go as low as to look down on people for there size (small or big) are just flat out rude and makes me sick! People come on now.....if you have ever been made fun of for any reason, then this is pretty much the same feelings. It hurts, and sucks and you just want to have a nice time. It would be nice just to go and have a good time for those people. Maybe I am just to easy to get along with or easy to please, but for heavens sake this is worse than ele. school! yes now I am being judgemental, but all the people out there thats in to saying this or that about people is childish.
I will be going on my first cruise and hope that I won't run into mean,nasty people. some of these people make me not want to go! I just want to go and have a wonderful time with my husband and family. I am not small or big but what difernace does that make? none and thats the way it should be................happy cruise-n to me and all of you!
yaho im
headed for victory 10/26- 11/02 2003
can't wait

Bunny June 24th, 2003 02:14 AM

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I am on the protien power diet and am losing weight for me, no one else. That being said, I will never be a size 2 nor would I want to be. My husband likes women with meat on them, and most other men do also. They do not want to feel they would break them when they touch them. And I think someone that small may be more obsessed with food than the heavier ones are. I think people who are worried about how others look ( or act also) are also very insecure people to begin with and have to find fault with others to make up for their own faults.

TazRider June 28th, 2003 02:23 AM

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I had to laugh at this one, it's so true.

Kimberly wrote.........

"I do think people should realize their limitations when it comes to clothing."

People do need to look at themselves prior to heading out into public and try and do the best with what they have to work with.

I'm huge by anyone's standards, but I'm always clean, wear clothes that fit reasonably well (not easy finding 3XLT everywhere, and it's not cheap either) and friendly to total strangers for no apparent reason.

I would rather see a thousand fat people that try and present themselves as best they can, than all the 1% body fat gals with their greasy, gummy hair pulled into a clip and think that they are high fashion.

For some unfortunate reason it has become OK to ridicule overweight people in our society, we are the only unprotected class of citizens left in this politicaly correct mess that we have created.

Browezilla June 29th, 2003 01:14 PM

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Rick wrote: Being obese is the US is close to being the norm. That said, I accept people for who they are not what they look like.

This is an excellent append. When I take trips to Europe or Asia, I'm always amazed in the difference in body weight between Americans and many other nationalities.

Judging anyone other than on their character is stereotyping and prejudiced. Being obese or dramatically overweight doen't make you less of a person, however it does come with health risks that everyone overweight should consider. You don't have to be thin or skinny, but you want to be at a healthy weight.

diverdiver June 29th, 2003 02:25 PM

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I'm almost embarassed to tell this story, because it's on the opposite end of this discussion, but here goes:
I've always had a very slim build (I firmly believe that genetics play a huge part in body build), but about 15 years ago, I developed a serious thyroid problem (hyperactive) which took about a year to bring under control. No matter how much I ate, what I ate, or how often I ate, I kept losing weight. I am 5'6", and got down to about 98 pounds. I was in my 40's at the time, and was VERY embarassed by the way I looked! A co-worker slipped an article about Anorexia under my door at work, and I received several (snotty) comments about, "OK - you can stop dieting now." Let me tell was very difficult to get the stares and whispers and comments! A group of us went on a cruise during all of this, and I looked awful in a bathing suit with bones sticking out everywhere, so I just wore shorts and T-shirts to the beaches. I was so self-conscious about my weight (or lack of it) that I really didn't enjoy myself on that cruise! The weight issue can work both ways, and many times, it's just something that is very difficult to control and can be medically related. People make assumptions about the body weight of others without knowing the facts. I should have just gone on this cruise with the attitude of "S**** them!", but I didn't, and I can definitely understand the external pressures placed upon people who don't look "normal" with their bodies. I would certainly encourage people to cruise with open minds and with the expectation to have a great time, regardless of what others may be (erroneously) thinking!

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