I don't mind the occasional error, especially when it's evident that it's clearly due to fast typing. I make them too! But you'll notice that about 75% of my posts have the "has been edited" note at the bottom, because I'm obsessive and proofread them after they've been posted.
What gets me are those people who consistently butcher the English language.
And Jim, my husband is British and has the same gripe :o)
I agree with you 100%!! It's a shame that people don't care about proper grammer and spelling, and that some people have such a bad attitude when someone points out that THEY care about such things!
It's like when "ebonics" came out...I mean, that was such an INSULT to the black population, basically stating that they are too ignorant to speak properly, so we will give them their own "ignorant" language. I though that was the most disgusitng thing I ever heard of!
But considering the high school drop out rate, you can't be too surprised....
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wow is for context of th gripe- I have "bigger" things to worry about than one's grammer.
just like the toilet paper gripe, dont get me wrong, i like toilet paper and do use it!!(really, I do) but for these small things in life...lighten up......... the rude people who cut in the buffet line....., the cruise line that took away "xyz" that ues to be free....
...is wow a word....I know I have bad grammer, In my own defence, I was schooled in a public school.
My pet grammar peeve: the "grocer's apostrophe", for those tens of millions who don't know the difference between the possesive and the merely plural. Examples:
Or: I went on three cruise's last year.
And here's a note to Dave the Wave, who mentioned proper nautical terminology: I had a t-shirt printed up with big letters that seems to be a big hit onboard when I cruise, especially with officers and crew; it reads:
And your grammar is WAY better than many who use the board, so you can be included in our little "Haughty Grammar Club" if you would like to be (hehe). I'm generally pretty easy going (surprise!) but when grammar and/or spelling is so poor I can't figure out what someone is saying, it's frustrating. Really.
Heavens, yes. Possessives and plurals were a distinction I think I learnt in second grade (in public school!)
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
Okay, I stand corrected, but regardless of the above definition, I still hate "irregardless". It is redundant AND it repeats itself.
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don't know about you guy's but been in chat rooms along time am also an OP in another room and spelling and grammer was never an issue get real it's chat lol
rotflmao l8tr get it i'm to busy with anxiety attacks lol about my upcoming cruise to check peoples posts 4 grammer nothing will ruin my cruise lol this is not ment to be argumentative just lighten up as far as trolls and board hogs let the adm or op deal with them we don't have feed into their stuff happy cruising
** Quite a funny post! Love the "guy's" and the "peoples."
Great way to brilliantly illustrate the posessive vs plural discussion of a few posts earlier *grin* Also, love the lack of any sort of punctuation. I think we may have a winner for best intentionally "messed up" post! Your creativity makes mine pale in comparison.
Great thread, Jennifer! I too am grammatically sensitive. Another sloppy slip I notice is
using number and amount as interchangeable, along with less and fewer.
Amount refers to the volume of a mass, number refers things that can be counted individually. For example: An amount of money, a number of dollars; an amount of alcohol, a number of drinks.
Such sloppy utternces as "less people" make me want to lose my temper and loose my wrath!
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I'm surprised that nobody has pointed out how many times "grammar" has been misspelled on this thread (incorrect spelling: "grammer".) I guess those folks don't have SpellCheck, since there is no such word as "grammer". I counted ten misspellings, but who's counting?
As for the word "irregardless", it certainly does exist ... but not in "standard English". It is, as has been pointed out, a redundancy. The suffix "-less" on the end of the word "regardless" already makes it negative. It therefore doesn't need the negative prefix "ir-" added to make the word even more negative. As the American Dictionary of the English Language (4th Edition, 2000) points out, "Despite some arguments in its favor, the word has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so."
Steve, I like your term "sloppy slip". If you can put it into a sentence with "choppy", "ship" and "slippery deck", I think you'll be well on your way to creating a fine limerick! <BG>
I noticed the "GrammEr" thing, but didn't want to point it out :o)
I saw how many times it was spelled that way, and began to worry *I* had misspelled it in my original post title, but after consulting the dictionary, realized I was right to begin with.
Personally, though, given the choice between poor spelling and poor grammar, poor spelling is preferable. Poor sentence structure is so much more difficult to wade through. Poor spelling I can live with, in moderation. *grin*
After I posted my comment, I noticed that I was one of those that had mispelled grammar, but I was hoping no one else noticed it too. How silly was I? :-)
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Oops! Maybe I was confused with the actor. After seeing Kelsey Grammer for so many years on the tube, and in the "rags" <G>, I may have that spelling etched on my brain.
Doing two things at once, I too get confused which to, too, or two to use. ;-)
Thomas - an utterance I think is a sentence repeated in succession while sitting under the utters (oops - hee hee) udders of a cow! & darn it horseracer if we didn't miss out on the mustard drill when we were on our boat. What really worries me is if I keep loosing weight without exercises - I'm afraid I will have lots of lose skin!