I am takeing my first cruise in October for my 4th anniversary on Crystal. I am almost nervous because I am hopeing this will be a wonderfull anniversary. It seems like all I hear about is people cutting in the buffet line or loud drunks rowdy kids (we have two young ones so that won't bother me though they aren't going.) I am suprized I haven't read something about a woman haveing her butt or breast grabbed or something like that. Is it just a few or what. Since the cheapest cost on Crystal on that date is about 3000.00 I am hopeing we won't run into that. As a travel agent I picture that person that says I want to go on a cruise for 300.00 total being the troublemaker.
Yes I can tell look at David P he must be what we called when I worked in the casinos as the nickel and dimer flea bag. Wanted free drinks untill he was drunk comped hotel room and free show tickets and buffet meals but spent 2.50 on the machines. I am sure you think you deserve the same treatment for your 2.50 as the one that spends 1000.00 WRONG
You know you are a bit obsessed with the people who are paying discount prices soonerfan. From my experience rude people come from all economic brackets and backgrounds. I don't thnk that name calling with DavidB helps your argument any. The fact is you can find rude people anywhere, and it all depends on your outlook on if they ruin the cruise for you.
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ms Zuiderdam - May 2006
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You may have some points my bad expierences come from discount cruisers I never had anyone want a balcony or a suite and think it was way to much. What I am trying to say is thier is another aspect to cruising and it is the other side.
I believe that your cruise is what you make it. If there are rowdy folks at one pool,go to another, or go do something else for awhile and go back later.This will be my 5th cruise and I haven't been in a pool yet.Usually by the time I get there, all the chairs are taken or the younger group--GenXer's?--are there. I'm not a water person anyway so don't care.
If you go on your cruise expecting to be nervous and put out,then that might be what happens because of circumstances. But, I don't go on with any outstanding expectations except to have a nice vacation and relax. I can do that sitting on the promenade deck reading a book, or up in the Horizon Court, or sitting on an upper deck above the pool, or playing Scrabble with my husband. It doesn't matter. I will enjoy myself!! Go with that attitude, and you'll have a great time!!! Lynne (I haven't encountered a rude person yet!)
I believe that anyone with such terrible spelling and grammar must be uneducated , therefore, they must be employed in a lower paying job. If they are employed in a lower paying job, then they must only be able to afford "discount" cruises. People who pay less for their cruise must be a lower class of person who has no manners and drinks too much.
The above statement is an assinine assembly of goobly gook, although it does start with one supportable fact. Your spelling and grammar are terrible.
Hoping - not hopeing
Having- not haveing
Wonderful- not wonderfull
Surprised- not surprized
So I guess we should be careful what we ASSUME about a person,like not when basing our judgements on what line they can afford to cruise.
Yes I supose when they put a "special " price on a sailing, you may get more college aged kids who will in fact party more than the family cruisers, but when addressing the issue of rudeness, there is no specific"types" of cruisers.
It is a bit snobby to go on about how you are going on Crystal and it costs so much ,blah blah, blah.
BTW,as a TA ,everyone knows you aren't paying the regular price, so you are hardly a "real " Crystal cruiser.
Our "affordable" price for a cruise depends on the cruise. Last year we payed @$1600+ for the two of us to get an aft cabin on another line.The only reason we went on that cruise was that two of my co-workers and their families were on it and they kept asking us to go with them. As it turned out, we saw very little of them except for the first day in Key West, as their cabins were all in the front of the ship and ours was at the back. They had booked before we did. Their schedule was also different than ours.
This year, we are paying a total of $847 for the two of us because we booked through a site and got some good "credits" (discounts?). Our goal was to just get on the Ship and then spend from there. The initial cost has already been paid.
Our very first cruise in 1998 was a gift from our next door neighbors.They went with us and paid for everything (short of my pictures and the casino).
So, we go with the best deal at the time.
By the way, please be careful with the words that contain a z--like surprize, advertizement, prize, etc, as the z is used in Canadian spelling. It's also called Zed,in Canada, not Zee.
And the word suppose in your post contains two pees,not one, unless you just spelled it that way for a point. I do agree that many different age groups go for the discounts and that any group can be rude or outlandish. I would hope that the rude ones are in the minority. Lynne
Yesterday my mother and I went to the restaurant we go to every Saturday afternoon when we get done at the pool. We have not missed but one Saturday in about 5 months and had a myriad of servers. Yesterday we encountered on of the best we have ever had at any restaurant. I took the time to ask for a manager and let him know about the exceptional service we were given by Sylvia. To that he responded:
"It is not often you hear about the great things/services and I appreciate you sharing that with me."
He is so right - you don't often hear about the good - it just seems easier to complain than compliment. Many who post on this board are only commenting on one person out of 3000 on their cruise and fail to let you know about the people who are helpful and polite.
This is also the "gripes board", so don't expect to hear about those here. If you read the member reviews you will get the more positive side of the cruise. I have encountered some people who I could only shake my head at and wonder where they got their manners, but then I remember that not everyone is perfect like me (just kidding - please don't take it any other way.) I know there are things that I may do that someone else may think is rude - but there are people who do things that we all know are rude. Please don't let that ruin more than the couple of minutes of you cruise in which it occured.
Some of the gripes on this board are legitimate, but some are just downright funny and I would be more likely to laugh at or be critical of the person posting than the person they are complaining about. You just have to take everything on the gripes board with a grain of salt and remember that 1. You will probably not encounter most of these 2. What bothers others may not bother you and
3. Your cruise is what YOU make it and if YOU choose to let these things upset you, then YOU and only YOU have ruined your cruise.
So the "Cruise Gripe" thread is dual purpose? First whiners can post their gripes and then others are here just to sit in judgement and share their cruise wisdom. I can understand why the whiners are here. But people that feel the need to pass judgement on others, whats up with that? I'm not sure which is worse.
What does "pg" stand for? Perfect Grammar? Anyway speaking of rude, your pointing out DavidB's typos was very rude of you in my opinion. Why can't everyone just .............get along?
Zack I did not point out DavidB's typos. I was not referring to DavidBs post at all. You did not read my post very carefully.
IN fact DavidBs post was mocking the OP saying he was "almost nervous" so I have no idea where you are coming from bud.
My post was pointing out how oursoonerfanintexas had jumped to conclusions based on her/his percieved therory that the more a person pays for his cruise the better class of person he/she may be and therefore less likely to be rude or a drunkard.
I pointed out that by judging someone by one set criteria ( in this case I used his/her poor spelling as an example) a person can often be quite wrong about another person.
Perfect example, you didn't understand my post( and didn't even realise who it was directed to, which may have been partly my fault since I did not "address it" ) so you jumped to conclusions.
pg. is my husbands and mine intials.
And I am Canadian and no we do not use a "z" in surprise.
Budette aka pg! Zay what zou mean, mean what zou zay! Don't zexpect zepeople to know what zou mean and they won't azzume anything. Per your ztatement below, it zooks like a grammar zesson to me.
By the way you misspelled “asinine” below and I don’t think that “goobly” is a real word is it. Slang perhaps! Might want to use spell check in the future.
There is new money and old and while they are both assumed they have class, money is no guarantee of class or pedigree. Money is accumulated in many different ways, not always legal, not always by way of real effort.
"The above statement is an assinine assembly of goobly gook, although it does start with one supportable fact. Your spelling and grammar are terrible."
Hoping - not hopeing
Having- not haveing
Wonderful- not wonderfull
Surprised- not surprised
Nice one PG, I understood your post straight away. My problem with the original post and I think you picked up on it, was it looked and read like someone having a laugh, especially when coupled to their other post.
To fartintexas, let me see and I quote you
"Yes I can tell look at David P he must be what we called when I worked in the casinos as the nickel and dimer flea bag. Wanted free drinks untill he was drunk comped hotel room and free show tickets and buffet meals but spent 2.50 on the machines. I am sure you think you deserve the same treatment for your 2.50 as the one that spends 1000.00 WRONG"
WHAT are talking about?
1 You know nothing about me as a person or the number of cruise lines I have been on and how much I paid to be there.
2 So what can you tell, I can tell by your posts that you dont know your a** from your elbow and that you sell cruises as a TA , an experience you yourself admit you have not yet tried or it appears you know nothing about.
3 Your grasp on the environment which we are discussing and your lack of knowledge of it,,, you sum up yourself ........." I am suprized I haven't read something about a woman haveing her butt or breast grabbed or something like that".
What can I say, apart from your statements and I guess deliberate mis-spelling, you may have carried this windup off. But sorry you are just too ridicules to be true, especially if you are supposed to be a TA
I don't remember the cruise ship that I was on giving me a sign or badge to wear that stated how much I had spent on the cruise, what type of cabin I was staying it, etc. So, I'm not sure how some of the posters here where able to determine status of the people that were being rude.
People who are rude, rich, middle class, or poor - if you are rude - You are RUDE, period!
I am proud to admit that I am a value cruise shopper.
DH and I are going on the Triumph in Sept., balcony, Lido $625 each.....who's braggin now!!!!
I guess that makes me some kind of flea bag,nickel and dimer, troublemaker.......but that's okay because so are all of my friends who paid about the same.
When we take time off from making all that trouble, we will be relaxing (with the fleas of course...cause by then we will have let them out of the bag) on our balconies with a bunch of cold Coronas that we paid for with all those extra nickels and dimes.....
I'm guessin' I would not be too popular with the "OU fan from Texas" (or is that Tezas?)
Royale 5/85; Oceanic 7/85, 5/86, 5/89
Veracruz 7/88; Fantasy 7/97;
Tropicale 6/98; Sov. Seas 6/99;
Sensation 5/03, 5/04; Glory 9/03,Triumph 9/04; Pride 3/05
I was tought by a very thrifty jewish mother that if you paid full price for anything you were taken over the coals. I have to say I believe that. Saving money is always the goal when purchasing anything. Cruises I would say are on the top of that list. A dollar saved is a dollar spent on other things. Class has nothing to do with saving money. Who once said an educated consumer is best customer? Is my spelling correct?
I appreciate all the Z's in the words. It makes me feel cozy and secure when I realize (realise?) that you are all good sports. I hope you think of me that way as well!
Tonight I did go into a Canadian Spelling site to look up the spelling of words and found that it's a mixed bag just like the American spelling words are. There is not a fast and hard rule--a little bit of Australian, a little bit of British, a little bit of American and our own Canadian.
We can go crazy with all the Z's and after awhile we'll be sawing Z's in our sleep, as in ZZZZZZZZ.
I have learned from some rich friends, and have read in books that the way people become rich and stay rich is that many of them pinch their pennies.So, a very rich person might reserve an inexpensive cabin, and another couple may save up all year so they can splurge on a balcony. One never knows the class of another unless they choose to expose it themselves.
With that, I think I will close for tonight. (Mikey Sr, your spelling is great!) Lynne
its like I said we all have our gripes and to each one of us the are all valid. No kids should go on a cruise, personally I think my kids are behaved but this is thier vacation too so if they annoy somebody they can take a hike or go on an adults only cruise. I can't stand smokeing and I don't hear anyone makeing an apology for wanting to smoke on thier cruise. Same thing with alcohol, I can't stand drunk people but if I want to cruise I guess I have to learn to deal with it. So now I guess we are back to square one as they say opinions are like a**holes everybody has one and they all stink. And hopefully my spelling and grammer are correct this time.
ousoonerfanintexas, I have looked over your posts on this board and on the one with discussions of the cruiselines here and have found them mildly amusing. I don't know who you think you are kidding, but I have a strong suspicion that you are not who you are trying to claim that you are. First of all, I doubt that you educated or have a lot of money. You do not express yourself in a well-educated classy manner, and I don't mean just the lack of spelling and grammar. Don't make any snide remarks about the lack of education of people from either Texas or Oklahoma. I have lived in Oklahoma for most of my life and there are very well educated people in both states who know how to express themselves well and do have a lot of class.
You are also not rich as you would like people to think you are. Most people with money do not find it necessary to broadcast how much they spent for something or make cutting remarks about people that look for bargins. In fact the reason a lot of really rich people are the way they are is that they are thrifty.
Finally, I doubt very much that you are a TA, even one with an internet travel agency. You gave yourself away on the "Crystal" discussion group when you began asking about what the Crystal Harmony is like. Now, if I were a TA, I would know about the cruises that I was selling. That is a basic requirement for selling anything.
If you have legitimate gripes, this is certainly the place to be heard, but quit wasting other people's time with your posts that include snide remarks about other people that have no foundation in fact.
LInda you have no idea what you are talking about. I am not from Oklahoma or Texas I am from New Mexico I just love the Sooners and the people of Oklahoma my ousoonerfanintexas is a slap to the Longhorns (rivalry) if anything I am more of a smart ass than anything. I can tell you about any cruise ship you want by reading what is put in front of me. When I was single I read all the book on marriage but once I got married I found out what it is really like. The people that have been on the Crystal Harmony know what the ship is like more than sheets of paper I have at my desk.I can also tell you about any hotel in the U.S. but myself I would rather ask someone who has been there. And one of the other comments is TA don't get as much of a discount as people think. My first post was asking how can people really think that a 7 night cruise in July would be 399.00 per person and then get mad at me because they didn't read the FROM part, all they saw is 399.00 per person and they wanted to go this weekend. My remark about being cheap or a bargain finder is this, somehow people got the idea this is like buying a house if you don't like the price you counter offer. So they want me to say no promblem I will sell you that cabin for 399.00 per person when the next person with buy it for 699.00 per person.