I think we have to be realistic here. If there was a chair I desired and someone's belongings were on it, I would sit elsewhere and watch for perhaps 30 minutes. If no one came back to claim the chair, I would pick up the book/glasses/whatever, place them nearby, and claim the chair. I have no problem moving personal stuff - the person who left these things was rude by assuming it would protect this chair indefinitely.
I have heard of people coming to the pool before breakfast, leaving a book and towel on a chair, and returning from a leisurely breakfast to claim their chairs. In my opinion, that is inconsiderate and wrong.
I once witnessed a "lady" dragging a deck chair down the hall,
into the elevator, and up to the pool deck. She had gone out in the
middle of the night, grabbed a chair, took it to her cabin, and
the next morning around 10 AM, she had a deck chair all to herself.
If I were to try this, security would have me locked up till home port.
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On our last cruise I heard of a fight that broke out over the saving of a chair that had to be broken up by the captain. jeeze, these people need to get a life. There are better things in life to do than saving a chair. How about just enjoying the fact that you have the funds to enjoy one of the best things in life, cruising. Enough said.
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This is a real issue for sure...We are early risers so I was poolside by 8:30 am with no trouble and family came by 9am..I sometimes felt guitly having 4 chairs all day when the kids spend so much time in the pool. But then they would come out and we would use all 4 chairs for awhile. With this new movie under the stars deal I did get mad one night when two teens were reserving 2 seats for their folks. The movie was starting and they were not there so I got into it with them for a bit buy found a single chair and the wife and I like to cuddle anyway. It always in the patter not to reserve seats on movie nights. The same thing happens for the shows. One show we just sat right down 5 min before showtime in the 4th row to the chagrin of the girl who was saving at least 6 other seats. By the way most of the shows were weak IMHO. I wasn't to impressed with the comedian or magician. The juggler was ok but not a whole show does one make.
I guess if I was a very good entertainer I wouldn't want to work on a ship.
Oh, it is all about alpha dog....if you are brave enough to save that chair, then be prepared to save that chair...I am 5'9" won't reveal my weight, but...I can leg press 800 pounds..can't bench press that much, however, the riff raff doesn't bother me much, I don't feel too threatened by the litlle old people (or teens for that matter) saving chairs, I do expect to be treated in a civilized manner, and I will wait till I am on my cruise to decide who can have the "saved" chair. My hurmor wins 99% of the time...I try only to put my energy in the excitement of waiting to be on the cruise, not how I will get my chair!!! The thing is, a primo chair has never been my thing, just a chair, somewhere, in the sunshine...go ahead, take what you think you need...but if you interrupt my sunshine...relaxation...be prepared for the alpha dog stand off!!!!
I have been on a cruise where you had an assigned pool chair. It was assigned to you the first day of the cruise. Your name was taped on to the chair and it was set up in the same spot every day and put away again at night. You had to go and tell the deck steward what your preferences are and they would arrange everything for you. Never once did I arrive at my chair to find someone in it. The deck steward made sure we had towels and attended any other need. They would come around and offer tea, coffee, iced tea or lemonade. I have never seen this service on any other line than Home Lines.
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In my early cruising days, I like the idea of having my own chair assinged to me. It was always there. Today if I take the trouble to save a chair and my items left on the chair and go for a swim etc. I expect my stuff to be there when I return. If I get there early enough to save a chair, its mine, not yours. We go to shows early to get a good seat. I see nothing wrong saving seats. If you get to the show late, I will not move down. You can climb over me. Why should I have to give up my seat, when I arrived to sit where I want to I go on cruises with family or friends. We want to sit together.
I don't think there is much of an issue (in my mind) with saving your own chair. After all, you were THERE to claim it in the first place. This only becomes controversial (like panties) when one individual saves another or a row of chairs for friends and family members. If they were all there to claim their chairs, then they would have a legitimate claim to using that chair for however long they want to.
Again, this is just in my mind, and many strange things have been known to happen in my mind........
Carnival...Fanatsy, both the 3 and 4 night cruise.(several times)..Ecstasy.....3 nighter...Imagination 5 nighter...Pride 7 nighter Eastern....
RCCL Soverign...3 nighter....
Big Red Boat 2 times....3 nighter and 5 nighter.....
As far as going down one deck to retireve another chair, i should have explained better...I went down one deck and got a regular chair from the restaurant area. That was in addition to, in reality more than 2 deck chairs.....See usually i get a deck chair for me and my wife, Then i get 2 for towels and such...which kinda saves them for anyone i deem cool enough to be near me....then i get the regular chair because i like to sit in it.
Hope that explains it...sorry for the lapse in time.....
The area around the pool can get so loud and crowded its sometimes not even worth fighting over the chairs. On the Serenade the Solarium pool was also pretty packed. I remember taking a swim and watching a couple eyeing up my stuff to move. I found a quiet spot on top of the bridge on the serenade to relax with my girlfriend and our friends from the dining room which was much better.
chair hogs, the worst. we just got back from the vision of the seas and in the solarium people would hog those lovely cushy chairs all day, plus, what is up with the kiddies in the adult only area? I guess that some people think that that can't possibly mean their child.
I agree,, half an hour should be enough time to run any errand on a ship.., when it comes to deck charis.. The funny thing about many of these gripes is that it is hard for me to relate to most.. When i cruise, it is usully with a group of 5 to 15, so there is always someone to pass on info to (dining room, whether i will be there or not, or late..i just have them order for. me. ), or save a deck chair, seat in the theatre ( but not an entire row) ect.....
I too agree that if the person is not even in the pool area for more than 30 minutes they shouldn't keep the chair saved.
Just a thought.... if having a chair in the pool area is really THAT big of an issue for you ( which I can see if hangin' by the pool is your favorite part of the cruise), then forgo the carryon and take bring your own chair with you !! You won't have to worry at all. Hey if you spend enough time by the pool you could forgo all luggage and just wear your suit and carry your chair on board.......hmmmmmm wonder if anyone ever did that?
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There was a guy on the cruise I went on this month that looked like he was a homeless person and he wore the exact same outfit everyday of the cruise. So, if he did that, and yes everyone noticed, it was hard not to, I imagine that there are those that soend their entire cruise next to the pool and their bathing suits.
tamie, how could you tell he was homeless, did he bring a shopping cart with his total net worth in it? Did he have a squee gee?
You heard on the news about the lady who has a 350K house in St. Cath and drives a volvo downtown and panhandles everyday.....
We did see a couple on a hawaii cruise and their luggage hadn't arrived after 5 port days on the islands, after that was 6 days at sea to Mexico, she got her luggage and he didn't so he walked around in 2 pairs of shorts and a golf and a T shirt the line gave him as a courtesy.
Always cross pack (that's cross pack Jenn, not cross dress)!
Seriously, folks, there is really no solution to the deck chair problem unless and ultil all realize it is just a part of the fact that the "mass market" lines have crammed too many guests on their ship for the pool areas to accomodate them. It is all part of the fact that you have booked a cruise based on the the lowest fare, without regard to the "nickel and diming", tips, crowds, lines, and scarcity of pool chairs. People, it is not your fault for not arriving at some etiquite here. It is the fault of those cruise lines for putting you in an impossible situation. To aviod this problem, look at the deck plans on the cruise lines' web sites. You will see that the NCL Dream (which in other respects is one lousy ship) has two pool areas for its 1700+ guests. So does the RCI Grandeur, and it is not lousy. Avoid those 3K guest ships with only one pool area, for sure. For best results, book with one of the "higher end" lines, because they accomodate fewer folks onboard vis. the ship size, which will virtually guarantee you a chair at the pool.
When I responded to Smitty, I was responding about the likelihood of the mans luggage being lost. He arrived on the ship in dirty clothes that looked and smelled like he had been doing some dumpster diving at the very least. He spent his time harrassing the single women on the ship. It was more than obvious that he did not bathe the entire time he was on the ship. He was removed from the ship in Jamaica after several complaints about his actions on the ship.
So you are right. I don't know if it was a case of someone who had lost their luggage or not. I said I felt it was doubtful as there were several indicators that suggested otherwise. Most people that have lost their luggage would at least bathe or shower. Most would not show up on the ship wearing clothing that smelled repulsing to those around them and looked as though they had never once been washed in the past several months. Most people who had lost their luggage would not then decide to harrass the single women on the ship to the point that the ships staff felt the need to remove them from the ship.
Yes, I do know about the woman that did the Panhandling dowtown. I have in the past encountered her while downtown. She worked the same street corner and did not move around. Yes, you are right she did dress the part, and yes she did live in a $350,000 home. However, she did not harrass people, she did wash her clothes and she did not smell like she had not had a bath in weeks. If you payed attention to the pictures of her on the television, he clothes were worn but not exactly dirty. BTW, did you ever hear the entire story about why she was panhandling?
No I just saw the brief article in the Globe (I never pay attention)
The scary part is, you've gotta wonder how someone who is "homeless" or "down and out" makes it on to a ship in the first place! I've seen some pretty "hurtin" people on vacations (me - on the some days) but never to the extent that you described. Interesting though that if someone lives like that, the probably don't have a lot of money. But some do have money and just choose to live in a miserly way, but then if they have the money to go on vacation, how much more difficult is it to bathe or launder your clothes? Hmm
And out of sheer curiosity, how was he harassing the single women, did he say "hey baby, I look worse than I smell!" or the other way around? Or maybe, "hey babe, how about we go back to my cabin and you do my laundry" or maybe the honest approach "Hey, I know I look bad, but I clean up real good...honest" -