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Old March 13th, 2007, 11:54 PM
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I consider going from bunk beds to beds you can push together a "real" upgrade too. I'm hoping my 1A guarantee at least turns into that much. Any more than that will be gravy.
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My first cruise I booked a 1A guarantee about 10 months prior to sailing and ended up in a great cabin with two porthole windows 8) . My second cruise I also booked the 1A upper/lower guarantee and ended up with a regular interior cabin with two beds that pushed together into a king. I was very happy not to have the bunk beds. For my upcoming cruise, I was able to get an assigned 8E cabin on the panorma deck for the same price as an 8A guaranteed, so I went with that. I'm sure I won't be disappointed. My only worry is that I hear once you've had a balcony cabin, there's no going back.
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Bud, there is going back,,, its maybe not as nice for lots of reasons, but we've done it for the sake of being on a ship, personal budget and just want to cruise.

Outside cabin, balcony upgrade brilliant...enjoy
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From what I have always been told, the upgrade fairy is like an escalator as the cruise date nears. The first to get upgraded are past guests and platinum passengers, then there are small groups and anyone else that the cruiseline wants to reward.

However, and this is a big however, every so-called upgrade is not necessarily a good choice for everyone. You may pay for a cabin on the Main or Riviera deck which is very quiet because they are sandwiched between other cabin decks. Carnival may deem an upgrade to Lido, Panorama, Upper or Empress as an upgrade. It is if you want to be in the middle of the action and stay up late each night. However, if you go to bed early or need quiet for little ones to take a middle of the day nap, you do not want to be under the casino, dance club, showroom, buffet, etc. Hence, all upgrades are not improvements.

People who take guarantees tend to get the most/best upgrades, especially the last minute upgrades when other people who have purchased travel insurance cancel their cruise after final payment. The cruiseline has already sold the cabin and the ins company has taken the financial hit for the cancellation. For these, I believe Carnival does not start the entire upgrade escalator up again but instead, just pull some people from the lower categories and stick them in the more expensive categories. An upgrade from inside to balcony is probably something that happened at the very very very last minute (i.e., just before embarkation) where reshuffling a lot of people is just too much work and effort.

Also, it is easier to sell a Cat 1A or Cat 4-something last minute than it is to sell a balcony or suite. Which is why they turn on the upgrade escalator.

On Carnival, I tend to book Cat. 1A guaranteed and always end up in a Cat. 4-something or the other. So far I have never gotten anything higher than a Cat. 4 something out of Carnival.

On NCL I booked the lowest category guaranteed and ended up in an excellent location just one deck below the pool deck but under POAm's "conservatory" which was rarely used and very quiet. It was inside but probably one of the more expensive inside rooms.
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You know in my opinion thats a great post, for lots of reasons.

It really did make me think..and why?

I am ready to cruise, I picked my cabin and deck X months in advance as it suited "where" we are happy to be on that ship......Okay so far.

Now I turn up at the ship to embark and they announce "hey you got an upgrade". And you are now on deck "whatever".

Seems great, but what people should think is ...Thanks, but can I have a look first to see if it suits our needs....mmm

A dont think so from the line, as you should be happy.

Here comes another gripe re same post, some things really pee me off and this one is going to get it :evil:
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to a fellow Brit.....

Thought I would just join in here and advise that last year when we were on the Arcadia out of So.ton (P & O), some friends that we made on the cruise had actually been upgraded by P & O from an inside cabin on E deck to a balcony cabin on A deck.

the reason: they had sailed on Arcadia earlier in the year and so were rewarded the upgrade as P & O wanted to try and resell the inside cabins as the ship was not full. They received a phone call 2 weeks prior to the sailing to be offered the upgrade FOC and of course, took it up instantly.

So, the moral of the story is, sometimes it can happen.......

We are again on Arcadia this summer doing the Med. I wonder if we may receive a phone call . However, as we are already booked into one of the largest Aft cabins on D deck it would have to be a mini-suite and somehow not holding my breath on that one.

What we have will be great anyway - those Aft balcony cabins on Arcadia are superb.

Nice to meet you. Am also an old timer on here but 2006 was a terrible year so hardly had any time to post but 2007 seems to be far better - so far -

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Hi Kimmie, ever cruised outside P&O, just interested?
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Hi David,

Yes, started off on good old Carnival (Celebration and Inspiration) then with RCL (Monarch of the Seas), back to Carnival (Victory - BIG MISTAKE), RCL on Jewel of the Seas and then P&O Arcadia.

ABsolute without a doubt, from the 5 other cruises prior to P&0, the P&O experience was far superior and I certainly would never touch Carnival again. When we went on the Victory in 2004, we notice such a decline from when we had last cruised with Carnival back in 1998 (Inspiration).

Also not that impressed with RCL either even though I must say the Jewel of the Seas is a beautiful ship but to me if you close your eyes, there is not really any difference between Carnival and RCL.

After Arcadia this year, we may venture out and try one of their other ships - any recommendations of which other P&0 ship is good?

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Just out of curiosity, has anyone on Princess booked a mini-suite and been upgraded to a regular suite?
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If you book a "Balcony Guarantee" Cat BL. You "must" receive an upgrade otherwise you would not be assigned a cabin. This isn't an upgrade it's a cabin assignment.
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Can you tell me what the difference is between a BL guarantee and 8A guarantee?
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kimmiegirl , thanks for the good and honest post.
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What is the criteria? We have been on twenty plus, never ever had an upgrade in our lives.

7th time on one line coming up, again balcony cabin. Never got the upgrade to a mini-suite, so who gets them?

Do you know someone that actually got one, maybe you did? Tell me how you or they got it.
David,

Excellent question, but in reality the higher category you are in the less chance of an upgrade. Try booking an inside stateroom on the bottom of the ship, you get upgraded like crazy. Now balcony to suite, very little chance, my advice, get off some cash and put the wife and yourself up in a suite. It is the only sure bet!

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What is the criteria? We have been on twenty plus, never ever had an upgrade in our lives.

7th time on one line coming up, again balcony cabin. Never got the upgrade to a mini-suite, so who gets them?

Do you know someone that actually got one, maybe you did? Tell me how you or they got it.
David,

Excellent question, but in reality the higher category you are in the less chance of an upgrade. Try booking an inside stateroom on the bottom of the ship, you get upgraded like crazy. Now balcony to suite, very little chance, my advice, get off some cash and put the wife and yourself up in a suite. It is the only sure bet!

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The only people I have ever met who got an upgrade to a suite was a family of 4 on a Christmas cruise. They were from Upstate NY and had to fly to Florida to catch the ship. This particular holiday weekend the weather in NYC was a bear. As a result of weather, Delta airline screwed everyones flights up and this family missed the ship. Delta flew this family to Nassau to catch up with the ship but half of their 4 day cruise was over by then. Because of their calamity, when they finally got to the ship, Carnival put them in a suite. Those are the only people I have ever "eyeballed" who have said they were given a magnificant upgrade. But, after hearing what they went through, I was glad I was not them.

Otherwise, it has always been inside to inside, ov to ov, balcony to balcony and the like. Occasionally you will trade top inside for bottom outside or top ov for bottom balcony. However, if you look at the prices, there is not much difference in price from the top inside to the bottom ov or the top ov to the bottom balcony.

Carnival will never get into the habit of giving away huge leaping upgrades on a regular. It would defeat the purpose of purchasing a balcony guarantee if you stand a good (or 50/50) chance of being upgrade from a bottom ov to a balcony. It is bad business practice.

I cruise solo. Therefore, the chances of me with all of my Carnival cruises getting upgrade to even a ov is slim b/c they will hold that ov until the last minute hoping to sell it. Giving it to me will cut their earnings on the cabin in more than half. Again, bad business practice.
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Ship give upgrade to persons with biggest bribe we are told 1000 american dollar will have the best suite
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Try about 4000 american dollar Dave. 8)
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Naw, I'll go with Janus and 1k is enough ....4k... For that I would want to dine with the Captain everynight and have a go at steering the ship
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Naw, I'll go with Janus and 1k is enough ....4k... For that I would want to dine with the Captain everynight and have a go at steering the ship
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PAX. Do you now understand me, if not fine that’s okay, few do, but we can still be mates and talk.

Not getting heavy, but Ying and Yang has to exist to make it work.

For example Marc can be my Yang, and I will question and he will as an intelligent person react to what I say. He rubs me up the wrong way "sometimes", but I would expect nothing else from him, he makes me think and gives me the reason to respond.

In X number of years on here. I have also made and met some good friends as we seem to "always think alike". That’s good as well and we can talk, good or bad.

But without Ying and Yang, it don’t work as a forum "the discussions" It always needs another edge to make people think and respond. If we all think and react the same way then its just another "Chit Chat"

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I have too say if you want a balcony just buy it, don't moan and groan that you never got an upgrade. I say this with respect :-)

If you travel at all outside of vacations you know that upgrades don't come often, even if you travel often, its more or less the lottery, profit maximization, and capacity managment working as one force against you wishfull upgraders.

With that said I would also like the phone number of the upgrade fairy please ;-)
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I can't tell anyone how upgrades work, but I have been fortunate enough to enjoy upgrades on five of the six cruises I have taken - the only cruise we did not get an upgrade on was our first cruise, where we booked a specific cabin.

Having talked to other cruisers, I became aware of the idea of category guarantees - when it came time for our second cruise, I wanted to keep it cheap so I booked a 4-A on the Paradise. Ended up with a 6-B in the middle of the stern, which might not been the greatest cabin, but I will take it.

Since then, I have booked nothing but category guarantees. Received two ocean view to balcony suite upgrades on the Paradise (the Paradise has no outside balcony cabins) and our last cruise on the Legend we went from an oceanview to an outside balcony.

Hoping for a suite on our upcoming Freedom cruise (the transatlantic), but if we only get the balcony I booked, so be it.

BTW - I agree that moving up one or two decks is "technically" an upgrade, but I wouldn't count it as such.
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BTW - I agree that moving up one or two decks is "technically" an upgrade, but I wouldn't count it as such.
I wouldn't consider that an upgrade either. To me an upgrade is going from a balcony to a suite, or from an inside to an outside. Two cabins of the same type, to me, is not an upgrade.

I think the way upgrades seem to work is that you first of all have to book a guarantee. This way you have the possibility of getting a cabin well above the guarantee cabin level. If you book a specific cabin, however, I think you would be last in line for an upgrade. The guarantees would be taken care of first.

Also, it seems that the cruise lines can "VIP" a customer. How a customer gets "VIP'd" is something I don't understand ... but suspect it has a lot to do with such things as how many days they've sailed on the line ... how much money they spend onboard ... how "influential" their travel agent is with HAL, etc. For example, having a TA who is a "power seller" of cruises with HAL is gonna definitely weigh in your favor. That TA can throw her weight around and request the line upgrade her client. If she has sufficient weight, the request will be granted. Once you are "VIP'd," then you generally qualify for a "space available" upgrade ... as long as you have not put the designation "do not upgrade" on your booking. You will also get other things ... like invites to the Captain's Party, maybe a few bottles of wine in your stateroom compliments of HAL (in additional to any your TA may leave there), and other little "bennies."

I also seem to believe that when it comes to handing out upgrades, solo travelers in a cabin are gonna be last in line for them. The cruise line is not gonna put a solo in a better cabin ... when they could put a couple in there who may be inclined to spend more onboard since they got the nice upgrade. Let's face it, generally a couple will spend more than a solo ... two is greater than one ... and all that.

So, I guess the trick here is to make sure you are dealing with a TA who does a lot of business with HAL. Also, I notice that people who book directly with HAL tend to get on the VIP List ... but then they are paying more for that privilege. It would seem they should get the pickings of upgrades.

Frankly, as long as I pay a price I can live with for my cabin, I'm happy. I never book a cabin I can't live with ... just on the hopes of getting upgraded. Guarantee bookings are a dangerous thing as far as I'm concerned. Yes, you could book that inside, and wind up in an unobstructed ocean view cabin. But that ocean view cabin might be right under the galley ... or right over the show lounge. Nice cabin, but not worth much if I can't sleep worth a "dam."

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Just go off of the Liberty this morning and this is my experience which I think is worth sharing.

I booked a Cat. 1A guaranteed. Was at one time given a miniscule upgrade to a Cat 4A in Cabin 1223 which is on the Riviera Deck 5 or 6 cabins from the Front elevators. Not to bad but just a mini upgrade. In order to get an OBC for a price reduction I gave up the upgrade (whoopie Doo!!! ).

When I got to the ship I was assigned Cabin 1426. It as a Cat. 1A cabin on the Riviera Deck right next to the Aft elevators. I never heard the elevators even though the bed was up against the wall that separated the cabin from the elevator bank.

To date, this has been my favorite cabin. I travel solo. It has a single bed with a bunk that could have come down from the ceiling. It was configured a bit different from a Cat. 4A inside but had approximately the same square footage. Because this room was shaped different and had only 1 single bed, there was loads and loads of "floor space". Also, the Aft elevator bank takes you right to the dining rooms and the buffet on the Lido Deck. These elevators are also used less so often it comes faster and travels express to wherever you go. I loved it.

It would have worked great for two people if one of these people did not mind using the bunk bed. There was plenty of room for 2 to get dressed and not bump into each other. This is a great room for a single parent with one child, two teens or even two adult friends.

To end, I didn't not end up with an upgrade and I am very thankful. I loved this room so much that I will now attempt to book it outright on my next cruise booking or at least have my reservation noted that I have a preference for this room. There is its sister room on the odd numbered hall on the Riveria Deck (1425? or 1427?) and there may be more rooms like this on other decks. I am not sure but it is a Cat. 1A.

Remember Cabin 1426 when you are booking the newer Carnival ships. If you cruise solo or with one other person (not significant other), it will work great and cost a whole lot less.

Just wanted to share. I took pictures and will upload them at a later date along with my review.
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On our first cruise ever with Royal Caribbean - Mexican Riveria - Vision of the Sea we received a upgrade from Cat D1 balcony to the Royal Family Suite. We were not even aware of the upgrade until it was time to board the ship. When they gave us our room keys I noticed it was different from what we booked. When I questioned it she just said they had to switch our room, but she doesn't know why. It was only 3 rooms down from where I originally booked. She never let us know it was the Royal Family Suite, she told us it was just another balcony room. That didn't seem to make any sense and since it was our first cruise we thought they were trying to pull a fast one on us. We asked her if we didn't like the room once we got there if we could switch back to our original room. She said she didn't think there was anything they could do since the ship was sold out, but if we are still unhappy to come back and she would see what she could do. When we got to the room we almost couldn't believe our eyes. Needles to say we never went back to complain about our room assignment. I did book the cruise 13months in advance, so maybe that had something to do with it.
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This December we will be on the Fantasy in a Cat 12 suite, upgraded from 11. Moving from one type of suite to another can be a terrific upgrade.

I agree with many of the previous posts that going from one cabin to another cabin of the same type on a more prestigious floor is not much of an upgrade.

However it is quite different with suites. There is a significant difference between an 11 and a 12 suite on most Carnival ships. Suites on other lines such as RCL are even more diverse. So a one class upgrade can be a big deal if you move from one type of suite to another.
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What is the criteria? We have been on twenty plus, never ever had an upgrade in our lives.

7th time on one line coming up, again balcony cabin. Never got the upgrade to a mini-suite, so who gets them?

Do you know someone that actually got one, maybe you did? Tell me how you or they got it.
Here is the formeer davidbgood Katlady.

davidbgood/davyidb, I have have been upgraded on a balcony but not to a suite-just a deck higher up-you know how-with each deck closer to the lido it is a higher catagory and is considered "better".
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What is the criteria? We have been on twenty plus, never ever had an upgrade in our lives.

7th time on one line coming up, again balcony cabin. Never got the upgrade to a mini-suite, so who gets them?

Do you know someone that actually got one, maybe you did? Tell me how you or they got it.
Here is the formeer davidbgood Katlady.

davidbgood/davyidb, I have have been upgraded on a balcony but not to a suite-just a deck higher up-you know how-with each deck closer to the lido it is a higher catagory and is considered "better".
Best upgrade I ever had was on a 4 day cruise. Ready for this one, I was one of the lucky few, I was upgraded from a 6A to an 11. That's right people for an oceanview to a balcony suite. We didn't know it until we got on board and we did the upgrade dance!!!!!!!
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Look I am ME, please be more concerned about the quality or thought in the post. If people are talking crap tell them, If people are giving good points,,, agree with them and expand the conversation.

And in that vein. You are really pissing me off now, believe what you want, sorry
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Watch the newest satellite tv commercial with Beyonce. She talks about upgrading...
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And in that vein. You are really pissing me off now, believe what you want, sorry
Could momofmeg and DayvidB be the same poster? Who is "ME"?

Upgrades - This subject comes up a lot over the months and years. The best advice has and always will be ...book what you are happy with..don't count on an upgrade. I never considered being moved to a higher deck (same Cat. Cabin) as being an upgrade but the cruise line does...I guess.
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Now you are really going off on one "Could momofmeg and DayvidB be the same poster?"

You make up your mind and please use the button marked X on the extreme top, right hand side of your screen on the blue bar to vote
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