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Old August 14th, 2006, 02:48 PM
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For the last 3 Cruise's my hubby and I have come home sick. I had pneumonia one time and it took 3 months to get back to normal. I looked at my pillows this time and found them to be "dirty" they smelled too!
The blankets looked a little dirty also, why don't them wash them in between the patrons? I wear a mask on the plane so I know I don't get it on that.....the ships are trying to keep things clean but are missing the point. Bacteria and virus can live on the pillows for the time it takes to change to new people in the cabin. Sorry to say we are finished with cruise's, we have done 12 including 2 Atlantic crossings,2 Pacific to Hawaii and back, but now we are sick of being sick...also has anyone ever thought that maybe the terrorists are looking at the ships next....wow they would kill a lot more people on a ship than a plane and I bet they could get the supplies to make the bombs on easy! Then they could hunker down in their private rooms and plot!!!!
This world is just not the same so we are going to just travel to places in the US from now on. Also the ships are getting to damn big!!!!
And everything costs extra.....not like it used to be...I am grateful I got to cruise in the good old days when people liked to dress for dinner, the formal night was formal! Everything was much nicer!
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The odds of you getting an illness from bacteria or viruses that are in your room are far less then obtaining them elsewhere on the boat. only you and the person before you used that bed and pillow over the past 24 hrs. However maybe you obtained your illness from the 3000 people that uses a door knob on deck you may have touched or the public restroom. How about those sterile casino chips or the spoon you scooped up your eggs with from the buffett. Are you and DH heavy smokers, drinkers and generally do not take care of yourselves? these things can lower your immune system. You can reduce the chance of getting sick by half if you wash hands frequently and do not touch your hands to your face! remember most bacteria and viruses need a host to live. pillows are usually killed prior to them getting stuffed at the the slaughterhouse and sent out to cruise ships.
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Have you thought about taking a can of lysol with you?
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I'm always sick with one thing or another...age I guess ( ) But I have never gotten sick with any virus etc. from our 6 cruises. BUT both my husband and I did come down with a bad virus after a FLIGHT from Hong Kong.

On our cruises...as soon as we enter our cabin...we immediately wipe everything down with lysol wipes or bleach wipes...that includes door handles, telephone, counters...EVERYTHING. It doesn't take long and the cabin smells so clean and fresh afterwards. (In fact, I got this idea from some CruiseMates post!)

If the pillows and other bedding don't appear clean, just request them to be changed. We had to do this only once and it was because of the smell of smoke.

Yes, indeed times have changed...and right now a number of people are re-examing their travel plans, including my husband and I...But at the same time...we don't want to stop living or traveling. We're just re-thinking the where and when.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 11:26 PM
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I'm that kid with the chronic cold... always sneezing... don't know where i picked it up to start it... just know Im not getting better because i refuse to eat veggies... they look gross...

I did think terrorists could strike a cruise ship... however to SINK the ship... the terrorists would have to have access to the lower decks... deep in the hull... so that would mean they would have to be engine crew... or laundry men... ... Not passengers... However if someone just wanted to create "fireworks" and "show" to kill... that's another story...
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The key to any type of travel is wash your hands often. By often that is eight to twelve times a day. It may seem obsessive but that is your best defense against becoming ill in any travel situation. When washing your hands don't give them the quick rinse under the water, give them the good twenty second washing under warm water.

Even today with the "reported" number of norovirus outbreaks less than 1% of all cruiseship passengers become sick with an actual illness from a cruiseship. Some do become seasick but that number is also low.

I would speak to your doctor and see if you and your husband have any other health issues. If not then you may want to rethink your travel plans.

In regard to terrorists: I believe that if someone has thought of it they have too. However they don't like soft targets, they prefer big targets that would make a statement and as Gambit said it would be very hard to sink a ship.

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Not sure of what line you had this problem, but on every ship we have sailed on the cabins are cleaned twice daily and the linens are changed at least daily. You are interacting with thousands of people in a closed environment, so you are going to be exposed to germs everywhere, wash your hands often use hand sanitizer.
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We also have never gotten sick on a ship. I usually avoid touching the railings, use paper towels to open doors, etc. Lysol is a good idea for those prone to sickness, as well as the frequent handwashing.

Last cruise, we took Airborne starting a few days before boarding. It works pretty good for me. I was really surprised. I also starting taking it whenever I'm around sick people, whether at home or work. I did manage to avoid the colds/flu that others had last winter.
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TIP: When washing your hands sing Happy Birthday to yourself while putting soap on and rubbing hands together, do not rinse until you have finished the song
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Very good tip about the Lysol. My DW takes either a can or wipes EVERYWHERE we travel - land or sea. Also, a little bottle of hand sanitizer.

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I'm a big fan of frequent hand washing. Remember, though, when you wipe down your entire cabin that it only lasts until the next time the room steward comes in. He has been in all of the other cabins that he serves and is touching most of the surfaces you cleaned.
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I'm a big fan of frequent hand washing. Remember, though, when you wipe down your entire cabin that it only lasts until the next time the room steward comes in. He has been in all of the other cabins that he serves and is touching most of the surfaces you cleaned.
Oh no!! Hadn't thought of that...my clean dream bubble has burst! Germ nightmare attack!!!!!

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We do not smoke, drink or gambler are both in excellent health. We both carried Purell in our pockets. I took a can of lysol spray and wipes and the minute we got in our room we went over everything, even the remote, but just yesterday a show on TV had a person who was specialize in germs and virus talking about how to stay healthy at the hospital when visiting someone and they said the worst germ and virus' were on over stuffed, soft chairs and and the TV Remote. They recommend that you slip the remote into a rubber glove or plastic bad and seal it and not touch it. wiping it will not remove the nasty things that are hiding in the cracks..anyway to go on with what we did. We both took Airbourn, and Zicam in our noses. I wore a special mask on the planes trips developed just for this kind of thing. We were on HAL and they insisted we wash our hands with Purell before we went in the dining room or the Lido they stood there and squirted us, but knowing that we would touch things like the menus, the chairs to pull our selves in and serving spoons etc, we both cleaned our hands after we had ordered and given the menus back to the waiter and before we ate.
I did spray the room each time after the steward had come in. The last time I got sick was last August coming off a 17 day cruise to Hawaii and back, as we waited to get off the boat I watched the steward in the room across from us make up the room for the next guests, he used the same blankets, so if the man on the TV was right and a soft covered chair holds bacteria then I would assume that if a person who had a cold or other virus was on the ship prior to me and I slept with the blanket and pillows he had been sneezing and coughing on then of course I would be exposed to it.
I wish I would have sprayed the couch and chairs now! Anyway I wrote to HAL and told them about our experiences and asked why they did not change the blankets and pillows and they replied that it was not necessary to do and that they did it occasionally but not for every passenger. So what more could I do???? IT has really soured us on cruising and one more thing, we did not use the public bathrooms and we carried the purel everyplace we went, we used it so much our hands were very dry, everytime I touched the handrail I would use it, and everytime we came back to our rooms we washed our hands very good.
Maybe we are just too clean! !
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You could be right maybe with all the precautions you take you don't have much resistance to germs. I work as a tour guide, lots of people, lots of sniffling and I rarely ever get sick. Sometimes it comes down to your immune system. My Mother always told me to let the kids get a little grubby and they will be healthier, that was so true.
Maybe you have less immunity and being in crowds is going to get you regardles of what you do to prevent it. Cozzette
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I've not seen this subject brought up at all, but... has anyone had the "bed bug" problem on any of the cruise lines. I read a review someplace that bed bugs were a problem on the ships. I can't remember if the review was specifically about Carnival or just cruise ship in general. It won't keep me from going, but what should I know about it if it is a problem. Will Lysol take care of the problem? Thanks for all the answers to questions I have asked. Everyone is very helpful. I'm sure I will think of more questions, usually in the middle of the night, then I forget by the time I get out of bed. I have a list of several. Thanks again.
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I have been hearing more and more of bed bugs on ships, in hotels and the one thing I do know is that Lysol won't get rid of them. It is a full regimine of washing in hot water all bedding, pillows, probably furniture. I know it is not easy. I am not going to worry about it though because if you start thinking of all the "could happens" you would never leave your home. Cozzette
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I just had not seen the subject brought up on the forum. I'm not going to worry about it. I'm going no matter what. Like you said if you worried about "what if" or "what could happen" you WOULD never leave the house. There are a million other things to thing about. I plan on having fun and enjoying the cruise. If we have no major problem then this might be the first of many.
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There were 51 in our group on Pride of Aloha in June and we encountered no bugs.

Floridianamaw, like you said, don't worry about it. Get on board and have a great cruise.

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why not just ask the room steward to change the bedspread and to remake the bed with a just cleaned blanket
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...also has anyone ever thought that maybe the terrorists are looking at the ships next....wow they would kill a lot more people on a ship than a plane and I bet they could get the supplies to make the bombs on easy! Then they could hunker down in their private rooms and plot!!!!
This world is just not the same so we are going to just travel to places in the US from now on.>>>

while you are worrying about the terrorists next target dont forget to add your favorite shopping mall -- your food store --your movie theatre --your ballpark to the list---------------regarding your just traveling to places in the usa now---are you going by plane-- bus (dont forget london)or by train (madrid)
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I have often gotten sick while on a cruise but I think it is from doing too many things and not getting enough rest. I come home with a cold. I can't imagine being as obsessive as some of you are. I just wash my hands often now and actually have not been sick for the last couple cruises. I also don't over-exert myself either anymore.

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I agree Sailing Gal, on vacation I overdo and way over eat. I am up early and stay up much later than usual and eating things late at night and so much more than I would normally, I think my body just revolts. Next time I am going to cool it on the late night food and desserts
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Cozzette,
NO NO NO. I refuse to believe that extra desserts contribute to possibility of getting sick. Long term, yes. I usually stick to a very structured diet, but never, ever on a cruise. Even if someone had tons of scientific data proving me wrong, I will still refuse to believe this one.

Seriously, I have health problems, but wash my hands and use hand sanitizer right before eating. My healthy hubby doesn't. Almost every time, he gets sick, I don't. Until we get home and I get it from him!
Also, thanks to whoever posted the tip about singing Happy Birthday to time hand washing. Great idea. Only problem is that I sign SO badly that even singing silently in my head, I rush through it just so it will end!
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NO NO NO. I refuse to believe that extra desserts contribute to possibility of getting sick. Long term, yes. I usually stick to a very structured diet, but never, ever on a cruise. Even if someone had tons of scientific data proving me wrong, I will still refuse to believe this one.

Seriously, I have health problems, but wash my hands and use hand sanitizer right before eating. My healthy hubby doesn't. Almost every time, he gets sick, I don't. Until we get home and I get it from him!
Also, thanks to whoever posted the tip about singing Happy Birthday to time hand washing. Great idea. Only problem is that I sign SO badly that even singing silently in my head, I rush through it just so it will end!
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I am a Registered Nurse working in a small hospital that is currently under lock-down with the Norovirus...no visitors, no elective surgery, major pre-cautions required for staff. It is a very nasty bug (Norovirus is the term being used for the 'Norwalk-like viruses NLV of which there are three types), particularly for infants, elderly or debilitated people. For most of us who are healthy, it can be little more than 24 hours of wretched diarrhea and vomiting. Surprisingly, 30% of people who pick up the virus will be symptom free.
The only household cleaner presently accepted for cleaning hard surfaces is a bleach solution (1 part bleach to 50 parts water). Another product ?Virkon or Virox can be sprayed on other things that can't be bleached. Even in washing clothes or linens, the temperature has to be over 140F to kill the virus. So, while spraying Lysol or wiping stuff down with it will kill germs and some other bugs, I don't think it would do anything for this one.
As has been mentioned over and over HAND WASHING is the number one prevention for avoiding most illnesses; thoroughly with soap and warm water. You can always spot nurses as we would never turn off the tap or open the bathroom door with our bare hands, but rather with the paper towel. I do not hang on to hand rails, and I do carry my Isagel. It is unfortunate, that there are those among us, on ships and elsewhere, that walk from the bathroom without even stopping at the sink. Just remember this folks, the number one method of transmission is "fecal-oral". Gross, but true. So if you remember that you may be picking up something on your hands and then nibble on your finger nails, remove something from your tooth etc., you are asking for trouble.
I don't believe in disinfecting everything, and have never wiped down our stateroom. I do however wipe down the handle of my shopping cart at the grocery store and do a lot of handwashing. Not likely to develop OCD
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I'm one of those people who when nervous or thinking always manages to be touching her face...either my eyes, nose or??? I know it's a habit...and I've been working on it. So for me...I try to be very aware of washing my hands and watching WHAT I touch.

I also meet a lot of people in my business...and being a woman I use to put great stock in a good handshake...NO MORE! My husband is always commenting on the amount of men he sees who do not wash their hands after using the bathroom, etc. (this habit is NOT limited to just men though)

So...now I'm thinking a nice 'bow' when meeting someone for the first time might be more appropriate.
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I'm guessing your being sick so often has less to do with the cruise ship and more to do with your immune systems.

We all encounter scores of bacteria and viruses everyday. Some folks will get sick and some will not.

My son has this amazing immune system and even when people around him are sick, hardly ever catches anything.

It sounds as though you are taking all the precautions, so I suspect your immune systems were ready to let you down no matter where you were.

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Another suggestion, when there were a lot of problems with people falling ill on ships, we tried out best to only use the restroom in our cabin.

Doesn't hurt........and may help...
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