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Old August 14th, 2006, 05:31 PM
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On my Conquest cruise, it seems that the young cruisers were all over the place. I think cruising should be a family experience, but there has to be some limitations.
The Conquest has an adult pool and two adult hot tubs. This was great. The common areas is where there needs to be more attention. Why not have elevators that are operated by sail and sign cards that will not work for a childs card? Why does your child need to lay down in an elevator and just ride up and down? Why does your child need to sit at a barstool in the lobby bar drinking soft drinks?
Can there not be a curfew on board?
It is not cute to have your precious child get up on the dance floor in any of the lounges at night. It is not cute to have your child lay down in the show lounge seating.
IT seems that everyone is catering to kids, what about the adults who actually pay for the cruise? Should we not have to tolerate this constant running back and forth of the kids?
I am on vacation too. Should I have to put up with kids gone wild?
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Why should I have to put up with adults who get so drunk they vomit in the middle of dining room or casino or anywhere for that matter, or start fights , adults who sample the buffett with there fingers or put food back with there hands or use a lounge chair right next to the pool instead of giving it up to a mother who may need to be near the pool to watch her kids. You put up with this cause not EVERYONE is doing it! Are you one to complain about crying children on airplanes? Some people do? Should people with children drive across country because they may cry on an airplane? Basically I understand what your saying but not all kids are doing that just like I put up with the ridiculous things adults do, because not all of them are doing it!
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I'm sorry, the topic of my gripe was KIDS. I would be happy to start another one on drunken adults, or perhaps join one that you start. I do not believe that I stated that ALL children were pests, or that parents should leave the children at home. If my parents could have afforded to fly with me, I would probably have cried, so I do not ever complain about crying children.
I did put up with the unruly ones, but that does not negate my right to gripe about them.
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First, I didn't get to finish my post cause I had to go out on a fire call. so I just quickly posted it.

No need to start another post. My point was that you have to put up with eveything on a cruise. In order to minimize this you would have to look to cruises that cater to certain ages or class of people. Of course you have a right to gripe about anything.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 12:29 AM
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We usually cruise on HAL or Celebrity that seems to cater more to adults. Anyway, we went to Alaska a few years ago on the RCCI Radiance of the Seas...Beautiful ship by the way...Anyway...since it was during the last of summer....the ship was full of famiies with young children. Unsupervised children were getting in the glass elevators...pressing all the buttons and riding up and down...(not one or two children but GROUPS of them)

Children (plural!) laid on the stairs so that adults had to either step over them or go to the other side. (when asked to please move, they wouldn't)

These unruly children were everywhere...but their parents??? were no where to be seen. The crew and staff seem to avoid them, rather than take a firm stand and ask them to behave.

Now we book only off season...(while children are in school) or on cruise lines that cater to adults.

BTW: We love children...they're the future of the planet...but geezee where's the parental training? Rude children will grow up to be rude adults. Good mannered children are not miracles, they are the result of hard work and adult guidence... But then...how can these parents teach what they don't know!

After reading your post, it felt good to know that we're not alone in our concern!
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I think they should hand out paintball guns to the people over 30 when they get on the ship... when these adults spot a kid being completely obnoxious... all they have to do is Pop them with the gun and the kid will behave... Or tazers... They shouldn't hand them to us young adults... because we would run around the ship popping the "old" people... so i think 30 and older is a nice age group to give them to...
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It's exactly like the kid that sits behind you on the plane, kicking your seat the entire time. When the glares don't work and you finally say something, the parents get mad at you! I have 4 children and they are not perfect. I get really tired of people saying "I know my child isn't supposed to be in here, but he's so well behaved" and such. Reverendjeff is completely right. It's not the child's fault--it's the "anything goes" parenting that seems to be spreading. We were waiting for a movie to start one day in our local theater and 2 mothers and 4 kids came in. The mothers sat down and started talking, while watching their "perfect children" race each other up and down the aisles, and run up front to touch and slap the screen (they were grade school aged children). My husband finally told the mothers that if they didn't control their children, he'd ask management to. They were very offended! (but made the kids sit down).
Another reason I'm grateful we cruise HAL. There are children aboard, but not nearly as many, and they rarely seem to cause problems. I also understand that HAL's latest ship, the Noordam, has elevators that will only allow a very few buttons to be engaged at one time in order to prevent the pushing-every-button-for-every-floor syndrome. I've also never seen drunken adults throwing up in a HAL casino, so I guess that's another plus.
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I sailed in mid July, height of kid season and saw none of the behavior you guys are talking about except one incident. I did however witness 4 or 5 incidents involving adults. I do not dispute the kid thing but my point was there are other things to have to put up with while sailing. The thing is the adults piss me off more because they SHOULD know better. The kids are not fully responsible for there actions.
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RevJeff, I couldn't agree with you more!!!

As others have posted above, I cruise HAL exclusively these days.
I can't remember encountering any out-of-control children on any of my trips. I did see pre-teens in the hot tub -- not accompanied by adults, as required -- but that was the only infraction I witnessed.

I have never seen boorish behavior among adults on any of my HAL cruises either.

We always cruise in late fall when there are no school holidays, and the number of children onboard is minimal.

We took a Royal Caribbean 5-day cruise a few years ago and our experience was quite the opposite of what we've encountered on HAL.
On the RCCL trip we witnessed out of control kids playing on elevators and stairways. We had some very rude teens blocking a stairway, and when my sister and I tried to pass them, they began discussing sexual activities using crude language -- hoping, I guess, to embarrass us.

On the same cruise there were drunk people at the muster drill.
That was just a preview of what we were to find in the pool areas of the ship the rest of the cruise -- lots of drunk people! We stayed away from the area.

When my girls were little, I took them on Premier's Big Red Boat. The girls were appalled at the behavior of some of the kids on the ship !
I always made sure I knew where my kids were and what they were doing.

Rescuedad, I think kids ARE responsible for their actions. They know right from wrong.
And their parents are responsible for their kids' actions as well -- and should instruct them on how to behave. And insist on good behavior.
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I think I said "fully" responsible whereas adults are fully responsible for themselves. I have only been on one cruise and encountered more problems with the adults then kids. I am not disagreeing regarding kids. But..... why put yourself in the situation if you can avoid it.
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We have a 4yr old and cruised this past spring break on NCL. Ran into the same situation ...kids, kids everywhere. To be expected I think when you cruise during school breaks. We did find the kids to be getting a little out of hand...we saw as mentioned kids lying in the stairways, elevators, hogging the hot tubs. There is one incident that sticks in mind though. At the help yourself icecream machine, kids were making a huge mess. They were just pulling down the lever and attempting to make a icecream sculpture on the base of the icecream machine...then just walked away! This actually kept on for a couple of days and by the last two days of the cruise, no one was allowed to help themselves to icecream, they assigned a crew member to serve it to you. It's good that the ship gained some control back over this area, yet now EVERYONE is punished and can't help themselves!

Im thinking maybe this behavior may have something to do with being bored! After the spring break cruise, we took a disney cruise this summer. All the kids I encountered were well behaved...yet there was so much for them to do on the ship maybe that satisfied thier itch? There were no kids doing all the naughty things mentioned above. The adult areas were very scerene.

Maybe cruiselines need to step up to the plate and assign crewmembers as stairway monitors. How about assigning a crew member to the elevators?
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I think *some* parents give their kids the run of the ship, thinking it's safe and the kids won't get into trouble.
Well, it may work at Disney World or some other amusement park -- but not on a cruise ship!

I think Kimbo is right -- some of it is boredom.

We have an area of town where parents think their kids are safe. They drop them off at 7 ... pick them up at 11.
The kids would go see movies, but then roam the area for an hour afterward. The store owners didn't like it, because the bored kids would congregate in doorways and keep paying customers out.
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I have to agree with Fruitcake...Kids are responsible! Children today are NOT the same as when we were children!

When most of us were children...we WERE children...somewhat innocent and naive. (noticed I said somewhat! )

Todays child is much more life educated. Television programs feature adult themes of sex and violence, exposing young children and teens to feelings they are not mature enough to handle, but imprinting them none the less.

Adults and children witness daily live news coverage of war, terror, and grief on an world-wide scale! THIS is the child of today! NOT the innocent little lambs of former years...they are in many many ways mini adults, but without the wisdom of having lived long enough to know better!

IF the above affects us as adults...just imagine what it does to a child. Then to add to the mix...little or no parental guidance.

To try and continue the myth that all is the same as yesteryear...that these children are pulling the same innocent pranks as when we were young...is to deny reality and the facts...some of these cruising children are really out of control, and their parents or should I say, 'caretakers'...are at a lost on how to regain parental authority, or they are too tired to care...or don't care because THEY feel out of control.

And it's true, these children bore easily if not artificially stimulated by some outside source like a playstation, television, etc. etc. and cruising on some cruiselines for them and us...is a disaster!

Because it hasn't happen on your watch, because you personally haven't seen it...doesn't mean it's not a problem!
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I agree with both Fruitcake and Fieldmouse. The kids today are so very different than a generation ago, and I think it's sad that they've lost the opportunity to be *innocent*. I also think that too many parents are enablers of bad behavior. There was a post on another board from a woman complaining because some pax tip room service. She said that on a 7 day cruise her two sons order room service at least 100 times and she wasn't going to tip $200 or more! I'm sorry but I can't imagine taking my kids on ANY vacation and letting them just sprawl in bed, watching tv and eating the entire time. Her excuse is "it's their vacation and that's what they want to do". I hope she remembers her role in this when they're 35 or 40, laying in bed watching tv and eating and expecting her to wait on them
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What happened to the concept of a family vacation? Leaving children to roam the ship on their own, sit in the stateroom ordering room service, and spending an extraordinary amount of time in the children's program doesn't constitute a family vacation. I have been cruising alone with my grandson since he was very young and we participate in ship's events together, I have never enrolled him in the children's program, I have never allowed him to venture anywhere on the ship alone. We enjoy being together, and the wonderful experiences we have shared will always be in my mind and heart and, hopefully, he will always look back on these experiences with fond memories of his grandmother. If people don't want to share a cruise experience with their children, leave them home. If you take young children to Disney World, would you buy them a ticket and let them go into the parks alone? Isn't a family vacation about sharing life experiences? I have sailed on ships with wild, noisy, rude children on cruise ships and try to work around spring breaks, holidays and summer travel. When children are young, it's all about real time gratification and a cruise ship can be very boring after they've run around the ship a few times so they look for quick hits to make them happy, i.e., riding the elevators, playing with the ice cream machine, sitting at the bar and talking to the bartender....where are their parents? With all the horror stories about people going overboard, aren't you petrified to let your children run free? Why does a cruise ship give parents a false sense of security?
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"it's their vacation and that's what they want to do". I hope she remembers her role in this when they're 35 or 40, laying in bed watching tv and eating and expecting her to wait on them
Sad but true! I know too many parents who's grown children (in thier 30's!) are still living at home with no desire to make anything of themselves cause they got it made!

But sticking on the subject of out of control kids on cruise ships...if parents aren't going to control thier kids...cruise lines need to clamp down and draw up some rules and enforce them! One thing they could do is make all parents sign a behavior agreement before boarding with any age child. If you don't behave... there are consequences....like.....
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rosetatto makes a very good point.

It all fairly simple really, if these kids were not taught what was right and wrong, what is expected of them, how are they going to know?? Parenting is a 24/7 365 day a week job that doesn't stop when you go on vacation.
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Her excuse is "it's their vacation and that's what they want to do".
That seems to be the excuse for a lot of boorish behavior
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Love your parrot!

I guess a lot of people look at a vacation as a "vacation from civility."
They equate paying $$$ with being able to do what they want!
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We have a 4yr old and cruised this past spring break on NCL. Ran into the same situation ...kids, kids everywhere. To be expected I think when you cruise during school breaks. We did find the kids to be getting a little out of hand...we saw as mentioned kids lying in the stairways, elevators, hogging the hot tubs. There is one incident that sticks in mind though. At the help yourself icecream machine, kids were making a huge mess. They were just pulling down the lever and attempting to make a icecream sculpture on the base of the icecream machine...then just walked away! This actually kept on for a couple of days and by the last two days of the cruise, no one was allowed to help themselves to icecream, they assigned a crew member to serve it to you. It's good that the ship gained some control back over this area, yet now EVERYONE is punished and can't help themselves!

Im thinking maybe this behavior may have something to do with being bored! After the spring break cruise, we took a disney cruise this summer. All the kids I encountered were well behaved...yet there was so much for them to do on the ship maybe that satisfied thier itch? There were no kids doing all the naughty things mentioned above. The adult areas were very scerene.

Maybe cruiselines need to step up to the plate and assign crewmembers as stairway monitors. How about assigning a crew member to the elevators?
Kimbo I took a Disney crusie also and yes it was crawling with kids-but Disney also have some nice adults only areas and no kids are allowed in the hot tubs and it is ENFORCED.There was also enforced adult's only lounges. I loved that cruise!!!!!!
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momofmeg hit the nail on the head! - the vast majority of kids will follow the rules, if they know the rules, the rules are ENFORCED and that there will be consequenses if they don't follow the rules. This should be the parent's responsiblity first and foremost, but if for some reason its not, crewmembers should be able to enforce the rules, especially when it comes to a safety issue, like kids laying in the stairways or running up and down the halls.
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Ive been cruising for 10 years and what surprises me most is how parents allow their children to roam freely around the ship until all hours unattended. Young children, some preteen age, ya know and I can remember on our last cruise there were these packs of kids just roaming around, harassing the bartenders for Shirley Temples, etc... Would a parent really allow their children to roam freely in a Resort hotel area at night where there are bars and clubs etc...Its pretty much the same thing on a ship.
Maybe the cruise lines should enact some type of cerfew. I know its done in some malls in my area, kids cannot be in the mall without a parent after a certain hour - but it would probably be difficult to enforce for the cruise lines and isn't it sad when they have to "police" the parents' parenting.
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Last month I cruised on the Carnival Glory and there were three packs of children roaming the ship together at all hours of the day and night, one group were older teenagers, one group was early teens, and one group was 7-8 year olds. They were all loud, bumping into people, making rude remarks when they passed anyone, sitting at the bars ordering Shirley Temples, congregating in the atrium lounge late at night, riding the elevators constantly, playing with the ice cream machine, running on the wet decks jostling people, picking up food with their hands at the buffet and putting it back, running in the halls and banging on people's doors, taking the room service cards off the doorknobs, etc. Now, let me see, where were their parents? As Rescuedad mentioned, the parents are too busy vomiting in the dining room and casino and starting fights to be bothered with their children's whereabouts. After all, they paid for this cruise and aren't going to let anything interfere with their good time. There will always be boorish, rude people wherever you go but most of the time we can avoid them. People leave their brains at home when they go on vacation, shame on them for ignoring their children to the point where it becomes a problem for fellow cruisers. The responsibility lies with them to supervise their children, the onus of responsiblity should not be on the crew or other passengers. If something happens to a child on a cruise, the parents will be filing a lawsuit against the cruise line for not maintaing a safe environment.
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We have only been on one cruise, and the kids on board were well behaved, so this may be a stupid question.

Couldn't someone on the ships crew locate the parents and put a stop to it??

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well i guess the Rev. has a right to his gripe. so i will only comment for any new family that might be concerned about this post. I believe that for every 1 child that might be in one of the groups listed here, there are another 20 in groups that are very well behaved. its funny how easy it is to only notice the bad. Kids tend to drift towards their own types, so if you have good kids i would not take this post too serious. on the other hand if your kids tend to be a problem, it would not be a bad idea to keep an "close" eye on them
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I believe that for every 1 child that might be in one of the groups listed here, there are another 20 in groups that are very well behaved. its funny how easy it is to only notice the bad.
Well ... yeah! D'uh!!!
Of course you are going to notice the ones who are misbehaving, because the ones who are behaving are not making a nuisance of themselves.

I only notice the kids on the ship are behaving by the ABSENCE of the misbehaving ones.

It's the same with anything ... you notice the one obnoxious drunk in the group around the bar. You notice the one loudmouth in the dining room.
You notice what affects you.
A quiet drinker, a quiet diner, a quiet child does not affect you -- or call attention to himself/herself.
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Twice I have gotten into trouble with parents on cruises. One time, a group of boys, ages probably 8-11 were running wild and decided to dare one of their gang to climb the ship's railings and pretend it was a mechanical bull (seas were rough that trip). Now, I used to work for Girl Scouts teaching wilderness survival and I can make kids pay attention. So, I put a stop to it. Kid's dad saw me and yelled at me. I told him in front of his son that even if he didn't care if his kid fell overboard, that I did. Dad wasn't drunk, just irresponsible. The kid, on the other hand, was courteous and friendly to me the rest of the trip. Kids know when you care about them.
The other time was at the Belize zoo when a 3 yr old tried to feed his hand to a croc...not the ones you wear. Parents got mad bescause I was
"making the child afraid of nature". Some things in nature should be feared!
Last year, we did a last minute cruise on the Glory. Teens runnning wild late at night. I stopped one who was really going nuts and requested that they stop. I explained that I have balance problems and was afraid of getting knocked over. He was flattered that I considered him the ring leader and he convinced the others to stop. Doesn't always work, but it did that time and he was actually very nice about it.
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My 2 cents, most adults go on vacation to wind down, forget about day to day stress, jobs, bills, co-workers, any number of reasons. Young people on the other hand are not on vacation to wind down, just the opposite. So, while the parent is trying to kick back the kids are bored and trying to get some adventure going. Maybe a cruise isn't the best place for kids if you don't want to be involved in each others activities.. I think the tendancy is to think they are safe and corraled in an enclosed area so let em go for it. I love kids, I really do, but they may be bored and bored unattended kids come up with their own fun and sometimes that infringes on others enjoyment of the ship, Cozzette
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I believe that for every 1 child that might be in one of the groups listed here, there are another 20 in groups that are very well behaved. its funny how easy it is to only notice the bad.
Well ... yeah! D'uh!!!
Of course you are going to notice the ones who are misbehaving, because the ones who are behaving are not making a nuisance of themselves.

I only notice the kids on the ship are behaving by the ABSENCE of the misbehaving ones.

It's the same with anything ... you notice the one obnoxious drunk in the group around the bar. You notice the one loudmouth in the dining room.
You notice what affects you.
A quiet drinker, a quiet diner, a quiet child does not affect you -- or call attention to himself/herself.
well thats the point, its all in a point of view. by taking notice of items that are not "in your face" it is much easier to associate your trip with a good experience. if you walk around and only notice the bad, your in for an unhappy trip.
the point of my comment was to relate that there is as much good (more in my opinion) going on with the kids for someone new who might have gotten the wrong idea after reading the thread.
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Old August 19th, 2006, 02:04 PM
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gambitscuba...regarding your remark about paintball guns, did you really mean what you stated...."they shouldn't hand them to us young adults... because we would run around the ship popping the 'old' people". Was this meant as a joke or are "old" people fair game for criticism and disrespect? This post concerns parents taking responsibility for underage children on a cruise.
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