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Old February 7th, 2007, 09:22 PM
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Beenie, if you take enough family with you, then all of you can sit at the same table and receive your undivided attention.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 11:34 PM
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Old February 8th, 2007, 06:53 AM
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Sorry I am so sleep deprived these days I thought I was too brain dead to get it...I still think that may be the case lol
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I share beanies opinion.
I am away from home for more than 1/2 the year and we are looking forward to time shared alone.
Of course, we will be meeting people and sharing stories...just not under the confines of sharing a meal.
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That's a shame that you all are so busy, you cannot spend at least meal time together during the year. I think it's very important because you can sit and talk and share what when on during the day, week, month, etc., etc., etc.

Thank goodness for vacations!
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I think you are depriving yourself of one of the most wonderful things about cruising, and that's meeting other people! We still keep in touch with some of them, and have had some wonderful times at mealtime!

However, we always request a large table to increase our chances of meeting great people! I mean, you probably usually just eat dinner by yourselves at home, why continue the tradition at sea? Just becase you had one bad experience doesn't mean they will all be bad!

Next time try requesting a large table, and I've learned that you shouldn't hesitate to request a switch if you really want to.. There are a lot of interesting and wonderful people to meet in this world...you might be pleasantly suprised!
Our reasoning for having a table for two is that we go out a couple times a week with a big group of friends to dinner when we're at home. On a cruise, it's nice to have time to just enjoy each others company for a few hours. Not that we didn't meet plenty of nice people on the cruise or at lunch and breakfast each day, but dinner was nice to relax and not have to worry about the possibility of being seated with "duds" for seven straight nights.
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Wmuf and Rinker glad to know others understand what I am trying to say. I see d/h from late Friday night until Late Sunday afternoon most weeks, there are times he'll be home for an entire week, like next week, but thats the exception and not the rule. I built and continue to run a successful family business, and take care of my clients and d/h's clients and getting him where he needs to be and all that stuff, in addition to running a household and taking care of two small children working hard to meet all of their needs and get them to gymnastics etc... I long for a nice quiet dinner with my family, where I can sit down and relax, and not be jockeying food to everyone, so that by the time I sit down to eat, my meal is cold and everyone else is nearly finished. Its really not worth taking the chance that you might get seated with the Adam's family when your family or couple time is this precious.
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beanieweanie: I understand and think it is very appropriate for your situation; it is YOUR vacation and your time -- you are not missing out on anything, you are gaining quality time with your family.
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I'll only add that our son was married a few months ago so we are starting to take advantage of the empty nest.

We intend to cruise late winter (like now) and early fall from here on out.
We'll have plenty of oppurtunities to meet new folks in the future and then have "worst tablemates" stories to share.
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, great discussion. JeanS 8)

Beenie, respect for what you want as a family, but like learning to ride a bike and if you fall off... what do you do, you get back on. If not...

Don't let a bad experience rule how you will react with others, as there are a lot of good fun people on these ships that you could meet in dining and enjoy the experience with.

As for the mentalist that wanted you to bank roll their next casino hit or hide what they already done, that was a good call.

You go away for a few days and suddenly . Keep it up guys, this is what it's all about on CM gripes, well it is for me 8) .
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6 nights of truly pleasant conversation. Every topic under the sun....except politics.
Last night, the wife decides she is going on a rant. Her favorite politcal organization? Moveon.org.
Tried three times to steer the conversation away from politics. After that failed I wnet into my direct yes or no questions...Within a few minutes, the table was silent....she was silent. We enjoyed the rest of the meal and were glad we did not have to selelct antoher table.
I hold strong political views, work hard to avoid the topic, but there are times when ignorance can no longer be telerated. This was one of those times.
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Old February 12th, 2007, 08:52 PM
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Tex! Now thats what I'm talkin about. There are just different rules of engagement that apply when eating dinner with your family.
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We have cruised many times...and we have had two bad experiences...first one was an Asian family..with two kids and Grandma...the youngest a boy of two..threw food at us....the grandma ate with her mouth open, and with her hands..We could not move..nothing was available..........other bad experience was a couple of years ago..seated with a couple that were pretty nice..and an elderly women in her late 80's or early 90's..Prudence...and she barfed at the table on the second night...returned the fourth night and started to do it again..she was carried out by three men..and the ice bucket was with her..poor dear..and poor us....The second night she actually threw up in the middle of the table..on all of our food...it was so gross..they threw Hazmat stuff on the table and tried to move us..but we were no longer hungry..they made her stay in her room all night and the next day...........It was her last cruise.............
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Lady PalmTree, you win! That is the worst! You couldn't make that up. Eek! Well thats an even better argument for the family table lol!
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ladypalmtree, shocking on many counts, but not because "some" elderly Asian people eat with their fingers, hey welcome to the world of diversity.

So the real nut job in part two experience, you did not clarify their nationality or country of origin...just asking as she was a poor dear 8)
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I'll only add that our son was married a few months ago so we are starting to take advantage of the empty nest.

We intend to cruise late winter (like now) and early fall from here on out.
We'll have plenty of oppurtunities to meet new folks in the future and then have "worst tablemates" stories to share.
I think it is very nice that the two of you want some time for just the two of you. No need to explain to others who are trying to put you on the defensive-sometimes I feel when others make negative remarks-it is because they do not have a good relationship with their partner. Obviously you do.
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David sorry, but cultural differences aside, Tossing your cookies at the table, on your fellow diners and their meals takes the cake...Once would have been more than enough but to have to endure it on multiple occasions would have been too much. I am certain that the spewing episodes coupled with finger food and "see food" would not have been nearly as tolerable as finger food and "see food" alone. I still say she wins! Under the circumstances it is quite understandable.
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I am sorry that you took the Asian comment as racist..I am not...I was grossed out by the youngest throwing food at us..and the parents just laughing...and the Grandma talked with the food in her mouth..and it fell out of her mouth..I could of probably been ok with the eating with the hands. We have traveled many times and are happy to meet people of all races and cultures..So I am sorry if I appeared racist..ok..but gross is gross...and Prudence was German..ok..and she was really nice and very smart and world traveled..but..she should of had help with her. It is never ok to barf on the table...she said she had a bad gag reflex. So did I after that...so...
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Beenie, when I was funning with you, I was saying, and complimenting, about you taking enough family with you that the entire table could be your family and they would have your undivided attention.

The Asian stoyry has made me grimace. I think I'll sign off of this thread for a little while...
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Old February 16th, 2007, 10:37 AM
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Well Michael, if you only knew some of my extended family... eek! I think in some cases I might prefer to share a table with Prudence.

This next cruise in mid March should prove to be interesting... we are taking my parents who have never cruised before. It will either be a raging success or a major disaster. I guarantee it won't be boring, stay tuned for details when we get back.
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I am sorry that you took the Asian comment as racist..I am not...I was grossed out by the youngest throwing food at us..and the parents just laughing...and the Grandma talked with the food in her mouth..and it fell out of her mouth..I could of probably been ok with the eating with the hands. We have traveled many times and are happy to meet people of all races and cultures..So I am sorry if I appeared racist..ok..but gross is gross...and Prudence was German..ok..and she was really nice and very smart and world traveled..but..she should of had help with her. It is never ok to barf on the table...she said she had a bad gag reflex. So did I after that...so...
Ladypalmtree, I'm sure you're not racist, but your comment did sound odd. As you say, the point is "I was grossed out by the youngest throwing food at us..and the parents just laughing...and the Grandma talked with the food in her mouth..and it fell out of her mouth".

Imagine this opposite scenario: "I had dinner with the most lovely young family. She was white; he was dark brown, and as for the children (adopted), one was yellow and one and jet black!"

Or, "Our Captain was a nice man, he was moderately brown, probably Hispanic"

Sounds odd, eh? The point is, why mention race when the problem was throwing food, etc?

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I apologize...I believe my point was the culture difference..How she ate with her hands and open mouth..and how the child ran the show. How it was gross to me and my family. The child should have been removed from the table on many occasions, but they just laughed..sorry! I can assure you that I am not a racist
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I am sorry that you took the Asian comment as racist..I am not...I was grossed out by the youngest throwing food at us..and the parents just laughing...and the Grandma talked with the food in her mouth..and it fell out of her mouth..I could of probably been ok with the eating with the hands. We have traveled many times and are happy to meet people of all races and cultures..So I am sorry if I appeared racist..ok..but gross is gross...and Prudence was German..ok..and she was really nice and very smart and world traveled..but..she should of had help with her. It is never ok to barf on the table...she said she had a bad gag reflex. So did I after that...so...
I had a lunchen tablemate of a little caucasian (white) three year old girl-who played with all of our silver ware and the bread in the bread basket-now I am caucasain white-so I am NOT racist-but I felt the mother should have had that child in better control or else she should eat on the lido or get roomservice.
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You just described a person's color, not their race or nationality or how they live as normal in their society and to them what is acceptable, ie for Asians eating with a hand instead of a fork .

But I do agree that people of all races should be able to control their children. A three year old kid, did anyone else say, "no thats wrong, you should not do that" in a nice sort of way, but get the point across if not to the child, but the parents?
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You just described a person's color, not their race or nationality or how they live as normal in their society and to them what is acceptable, ie for Asians eating with a hand instead of a fork .

But I do agree that people of all races should be able to control their children. A three year old kid, did anyone else say, "no thats wrong, you should not do that" in a nice sort of way, but get the point across if not to the child, but the parents?
well David, I live in the southern US- around here if I had said the child was african american or hyspanic-even though the child was out of control-some peoplee would think I was being racist--as the comment I had quoted said about the asian child-and for all you or I know the person posting could be asian.

I have a firend who is asian decent and her child was out of control when younger also-but it had nothing to do with the child's race or the mother's-just plain and simple the mother did not discipline her child. I do not like out of control children-no matter what their skin color-but I love all well behaved little children.

I know on my last cruise I met these twin four year olds-on the tender to Grand Cayman-the wind was up that day-and it took us 30 minutes to tender-but these kids just set quietly the whole time. I talked to the parents and complimented their children and I found out they were Germany.

Now maybe this is RACIST-but it sure seems to me most american children are out of control-whether they be white, african american, asian or whatever decent.
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Wow..this is out of control..I am sorry.and I will never mention race again as I am describing a situation..believe me.........they were very bad dinner situations and I was just sharing with you nice people...again...sorry!
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Relax. There always will be folks who steer away from the intent of any post.
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Thank you so much. No harm was intended believe me!
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Um, Momofmeg, can you back up your comment "Now maybe this is RACIST-but it sure seems to me most american children are out of control-whether they be white, african american, asian or whatever decent."

I just wonder how much traveling you have done thru the US and how many American children you have met that makes you say that most of them are out of control, just curious. What other countries have you visited and noted that other kids are better well behaved than Americans?

Personally, I think it's always the parents, not their native country, that is to blame...
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