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Reading various boards, seems that those persons that have attained the upper levels of various cruise lines loyalty programs do not think they are getting enough.

The Consierge Lounge is not big enough when it is time to hand out free drinks.

Interent freebies are not big enough.

The priority boarding is not "priority enough" they ahve to board with those handicapped people and those riff-raff that just happened to book a suite on the same cruise.

Priority Disembarkation is not enough, they have to share the gangway with those low-lifes that are carrying their own stuff off the ship.

Enough! Shut-up! Quiet your B****ing! Squeeze too hard and the bubble will break and it will by bye-bye to the perks you already have!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel better
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Thank Heavens! Finally a new gripe. We've reincarnated quite a few dead horses here, just so we could beat them to death once more. Nice job!
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Beenie,

Beating a dead horse makes it go faster, don't ya know!

Texasmunk,

Yes, thanks for a new gripe! It seems like ages since we've had a new one.

And it's been my experience that people with the most seem never to be satisfied. And the people with so little are very grateful for whatever they get.

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Yep and I quote you Texasmunk " Reading various boards, seems that those persons that have attained the upper levels of various cruise lines loyalty programs do not think they are getting enough."

Well for one, I dont read other boards, is there such a thing

Two,,,,,ha ha ha ha, spent all your dollars for years in the "programme" and suddenly you aint the King or Queen....laughing my nuts off.

I hold at least five loyalty cards, cruising since 1974 and got nothing out of them that most cruising folks would see as a "reward" for the "THOUSANDS" spent.

But do I base my intinary or vacation on one line....NO, that is where a lot fall down. "I've had five cruises" so I mustt be a king or queen by now... . Ha ha ha

Takes you x times x dollars to get there and loyalty to a certain line, no wonder they are p'd off when reality hits as to what it all "actually means" for your cruise. I would be pee'd off as well if I had fallen into that trap
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On our first cruise. The young couple in front of us were trying to get the attention of the Carnival attendants as we are going up to the main room. At first it was sutler, "Excuse me where is the VIP room." Then it was "Where is the da** room for VIP's" Finally he stopped the entire line of people, including those still moving up on the escalator, and he said in a very loud voice. " You do not expect me to stand in line with all these poor people"

The attendent quickly got the young couple out of the way of the people having to walk backwards on the esclator and they disappeared.

On formal night, my youngest son, who has never been shy saw the young couple in front of us, and he said "EXCUSE ME POOR PEOPLE COMIN THROUGH"

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Luanne: Couldn't have said it better....Very clever AND cute.
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, okay getting rhetoric now, and I'd smack that kid’s a* for being so forward to adults in front of me....anyway

WHO has actually been "loyal" to a line, built the points and got something worthwhile, and I mean worthwhile from it.

And not a step up from the same cabin to the same cabin two decks above: shock: Do some of you actually see that as a reward for all that money spent?

Have you considered just how much that nothing "jump" over the years has cost you? Its all-smoking mirrors from the lines, Oh... for having spent $20k over x years... You can get a bathrobe (but only for this trip) and if I want to keep it, $40 to your account or maybe you get a basket of fruit or something else that is so insignificant, as your reward

Carry the card, but they don’t get you .anything worth while in my opinion., Tell me different

Pick chose and experience various lines. Forget “club cards? I really feel sorry for people that will not move out “their line?. They miss so much
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Luanne, that story is priceless! Good for your son!

You have to laugh at all the self-important people. Most of the wealthy people I know are very humble folk.
Maybe the cruise lines can dedicate a ship to all these "important" people, and they can all sail together and fight over who is the biggest VIP on board.
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David,

What kid would you smack?
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Any child of mine that had the "cheek" to say in line.

"EXCUSE ME POOR PEOPLE COMIN THROUGH"

In that line or Q, not everyone is aware of the "joke" so it places both child and parents in a poor light regarding social behaviour to others, and more importantly it's the adults that should deal with it and not take comfort on the "wit" of a child as payback to others.

Not a child’s place, but more and more of them are treated like little adults today, unfortunately without the brains, life experience or social etiquette to go with it.

So the child looks like a brat, and the parents as if they have no control of said child
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No one heard it but us. Even the young man who said it originally didn't hear. My son knew that the young man had been wrong. He was making a joke to us, his family. In my son's actions, he did not disrupt anyone around us, did not misbehave causing others to be offended. He was making a joke about a young man who should have been ashamed of himself.

To you my dear David, Lighten up!!!
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Luanne, I don't think he looks like a brat. Quite the opposite -- he was being clever and ironic ... which is not an easy task for some people.

I appreciate the story and his wit.

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Me chill, like hell will at the same time...whatever

Dont be so personally defensive, I'm talking about children being treated or reared as "mini adults" by some parents and letting them "do". And usually to the detriment of those outside the family unit, who dont live the same "life".

You gave a scenario, I replied with a social statement regarding how I see some children are today presented and how that personally annoys me.

And yes out of the mouth of babes can come "things". Things that most adults will not say as they are not "socially" acceptable. But if a child says it, its a laugh to some. mmmm
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David,

You are so cute when your wrong!!!
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Not cute, you dont win that way. I'd rather take insults 8)
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David,

You and I figured each other out a long time ago. You might act like a mean bad dog, but I know you can also pur like a kitten.
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Unless mom and dad are at least Diamond Plus (or whatever the rating is on any cruise line). Then the children are allowed to comment about the great unwashed who just happend to be sharing their ship that week.
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Do I bite,,,no. As it’s far too much of a ridicules statement for Texas to have made, they must be joking,,,but I dont see a smiley.....mmmmm

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WHO has actually been "loyal" to a line, built the points and got something worthwhile, and I mean worthwhile from it.

And not a step up from the same cabin to the same cabin two decks above: shock: Do some of you actually see that as a reward for all that money spent?

Pick chose and experience various lines. Forget “club cards? I really feel sorry for people that will not move out “their line?. They miss so much
Well, just this week, I got a benefit that in my eyes was worthwhile. I was originally booked/paid in full on the Inspiration for 4/23 and found that I would not be able to go that week, but rather the following week. I called my PVP, who called his supervisors and got the 4/23 cancelled and then booked me on the 4/28 with no penalties...He said he had to play my Platinum card and was surprised when it worked. Well, I did have to pay an additional $1.46 for the change in port fees. While others may not view this as a worthwhile benefit, I did view it as one. While the Carnival Concerige Club bag I get on every cruise (I have four of them now) and the deserts delivered to cabin are no big deal to me, I do love to have my laundry done for free and the free entry into slot tourney is nice, also the extra attention I get in the casino from the pit bosses is great! I also enjoy not having to stand in line at the Pursers desk. David is right though, I do not view these as extreme monetary worthwhile benefits, for the amount of money I have spent with Carnival, but sometimes, like this week, it sure did come in handy being Platinum.

I have only cruised Carnival and for right now, will stick with Carnival. My philosphy right now is that I would rather pay less and cruise more. I pay the single supplement, and Carnival's is the cheapest. When I plan my cruises, I do price other cruiselines, mainly RCCL and Princess, but for the price difference, it isn't worth it for me. I will eventually cruise other lines and possibly find one that I prefer over Carnival, but Carnival has never disappointed me, so I have no problem sticking with them. I know a big problem that I have, which probably attributes some to me sticking with Carnival, is that I am a creature of habit - in a big way! I have a very good friend, banker, that gets mad at me for sticking with Carnival, but he understands why I do it and does not criticize me for it. I am sure that my first cruise on a line other than Carnival will be with him and his family - which will make it a blast! I always have a great time with them when they come down here for a visit - however, he knows that right now, if he wants to cruise with me, it will be on Carnival.

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Luanne, I know the type of passenger you are talking about. Think they are over and above everyone else yet don't realise that because they act so tackily and demanding they actually become lower class and obnoxious and very obviously out of their league.
I do agree with David regarding your son's comments. You are a teacher I believe and therefore should be teaching manners and etiquette in public situations. The comment was smart but should not have been spoken, he could have told you later or said it under his breath.
I agree with David on this one. Kids today have far too much to say for themselves and in my opinion for the most have very poor manners. Believe me, I recently returned from Disneyland and California and saw many examples of bad manners.
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Jenn,

I wish you knew my son. He is the sweetest most kind person you will ever meet. He will drive you crazy with his yes mames andno mam's He said it as a joke to us. NO ONE HEARD IT BUT US. He knows better than to be rude. I have taught my kids not to pass judgement on people that they know little about. But he also has a good sense of humor. If he had wanted to be rude, he would have gone up to the guy and said something to his face. He did not do that.
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Not going to fall out with you Lu, its just different perspective to a scenario, and one that for some of us is just to close to todays children and society to be funny.

Most of us live with "children’s" cheek and attitude everyday in our neighbourhoods and personally I can’t defend it. I don’t know your son as a person. But daily I cant make up my mind who to smack, the parent or the child, usually 99.9% of the time it's the parent for allowing this "young person" with no control or social skills to move into my life in not usually a good way.

Old fashioned attitude,, maybe yes, but the problem is. As an adult do I get an ulcer through annoyance and frustration by ignoring it or do I save myself that pain and kick them up the A, when they deserve it...no chance of that in today’s society.

So I get an ulcer or a heart attack living with other people's "smart witty kids". Hey they dont know, the parents, as its the neighbors getting the hard time and the reaction to how they have brought up their their kids as parents, not them

Thats why personally I dont get it as being funny, too close to the cheek and arrogance displayed by todays young, with no comeback.
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Jodi - UConn1:

I too am loyal to one cruise line for now - I feel I know what to expect, and I am grateful for my perks (better than nothing!).

Your loyalty to Carnival will most likely flow over to Princess, P&O, Cunard, as they are all under the Carnival umbrella.

I am sure that if you found an itinerary you really liked on another cruise line, you would give it a lot of consideration. I am considering cancelling a future cruise booked on Princess for one on a much smaller ship, without the Princess entertainment, spas, etc. The benefit: actually getting off the ship in Antartica, rather than "scenic sailing" or paying through the nose for a one day tour to Antartica.
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Bravo for your son! I'm glad he said something! Children can be priceless.

Out of curiosity David, if you had been standing there & that couple had made that comment, what would you have done?

If everyone on here is big on manners in children - since when did that change because you are an adult?

So if I'm following this right - rude behavior as an adult is ok to do? Loud mouth comments are ok in public where you insult your fellow passengers?

I think its great when children remind adults of their "manners" as this young child did without even realizing it. Bravo! 8)
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"Out of curiosity David, if you had been standing there & that couple had made that comment, what would you have done?"

Good question, I don’t know as I was not involved or actually seen it, maybe the "comment" was in their eyes made in humour?

But I would react in a way I deemed appropriate to the scenario, that may have been ignore them, as in my head they are already A'hles and I don’t want to get involved or it may have been more confrontational, it all depends on what I see or hear as a person.

But, in that scenario, I'd go for the first reaction, ignore them. But having said that never cut me up in a Q or line for anything, red rag, and take what you deserve

"Your loyalty to Carnival will most likely flow over to Princess, P&O, Cunard, as they are all under the Carnival umbrella"

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"Your loyalty to Carnival will most likely flow over to Princess, P&O, Cunard, as they are all under the Carnival umbrella"

sorry, but in your dreams
David is right. Each line, even though owned by Carnival Corp. have their own individual loyalty programs that do not cross over to the others. Being Platinum on Carnival will get me nothing on the other lines.

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Jodi (Uconn1), just re-read you post of Sat 17th March and sorry for all my ranting and having "missed it". But I am really pleased you are getting the benefits of "the card".

Nice one

Only doing Carnival, well that's personal choice and if you are happy with the mix it presents and it "suits you", go for it every time, To me that means money well spent, you know what you are going to experience, and it makes you happy.

Maybe some people keep moving lines in anticipation, but never find the one that suits them as people or expectation from cruising.

You also quote one of my old "mates" in banker is he still around here or has he went off to pastures new?

Please pass my regards on the next time you chat.

Thanks for the backup on loyalty cards and how today they do not cross Carnivals boundaries. Good advice….and lets have more of that from the people that know 8)

And there it is a new "gripe".....DID YOU KNOW! and by that I mean "Brochure against Reality" experienced
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No prob David, you just asked if anyone had gotten a worthwhile benefit from being loyal, and I just responded that I had.

I do agree that the loyalty programs across all lines are lacking. Especially Carnival's. I would rather see it based on number of days on the ship as opposed to number of cruises. So many people get to Platinum by booking 3 or 4 day cruises. Meaning they have only 27-36 days at sea prior to becoming Platinum (become P on 10th, which explains the 27 or 36). I, however, became Platinum with 67 days at sea and spent far more money than those who took the shorter ones. I also would like to see another level at around 20-25 cruises (I will have 17 Carnival cruises under my belt by the end of the year and be at 107 days on Carnival ships). Right now, because I have reached their highest level and the perks are only so-so, I have no reason to continue to cruise with them...there is nothing more for me to strive for. (even though as stated in prior post, I will ). It just makes it easier for me to want to look at other cruiselines.

I just talked to banker...told him you asked about him. He said to tell you he's good.

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Luanne, I know the type of passenger you are talking about. Think they are over and above everyone else yet don't realise that because they act so tackily and demanding they actually become lower class and obnoxious and very obviously out of their league.
I do agree with David regarding your son's comments. You are a teacher I believe and therefore should be teaching manners and etiquette in public situations. The comment was smart but should not have been spoken, he could have told you later or said it under his breath.
I agree with David on this one. Kids today have far too much to say for themselves and in my opinion for the most have very poor manners. Believe me, I recently returned from Disneyland and California and saw many examples of bad manners.
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I very much DISagree. Children are coming up in a very hard world these days and need to learn early how to speak up for themselves and for those they care about. Yes, my child certainly says ma'am and sir as well as excuse me, please, thank you etc, and he'll open doors for people, he has manners. I'd much rather have a child who can speak up for himself (without being ugly or using offensive language) than one who ends up a doormat for others to trample on. No thank you.
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