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Old November 10th, 2007, 01:26 PM
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Don't start with the "across the pond" all are idiots line. I'll whoop your patootie!...and I'm Scottish enough to do it.
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Hi Marty, how you doing,,, 8) Never said that..... you are putting words into a mouth that has already got enough to deal with
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Hmmph. Well, you certainly implied it. Besides, had to let you know I was paying attention!
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Hi Marty, how you doing,,, 8) Never said that..... you are putting words into a mouth that has already got enough to deal with
How does that shoe taste? Is it salty? Did it have any odor eater in it? Unless for of course you weren't wearing shoes when you put your foot in your mouth. I just want details. Marty get him.
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Why "get him"? Why pick on me, personally not a problem by the way. But thats scary Katlady....OH he does not think or act like us, so lets gang up and get him.

Thats really scary in more than one way
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Old November 16th, 2007, 05:41 PM
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Have you ever posted anything pleasant?

I'm sure you must at some point, either under your current name or one of the 2 or 3 previous ones.

Please cut and paste so I know that you have more than one, bitter side.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM
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Hold the phone kiddos...this thread was about NCL's vile commercial. Now lets get back on topic. Discussions about shoes and such belong in the Styles at Sea category. Now lets get back to griping....about cruise stuff.

As Monty Python would say: and now for something completely different!
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Old November 16th, 2007, 07:24 PM
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beenie, you are right.

However, I am certain that my post would apply if it followed ANY of his posts... regardless of the subject of the thread
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Old November 16th, 2007, 10:26 PM
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Why "get him"? Why pick on me, personally not a problem by the way. But thats scary Katlady....OH he does not think or act like us, so lets gang up and get him.

Thats really scary in more than one way
I'm Sorry dude I was just kidding around. That is the problem with text you can't heard my voice tone or see the expression on my face. That was meant as a tongue in cheek comment. But now I'm the one with a foot in my mouth. Tastes good. Can you forgive me?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 10:43 PM
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I for one can vouch that the Katlady has an awesome sense of humor. Rinker you're OK too, and alas I cannot leave out Davey, Rinker he once paid me a compliment...it was a long time ago, and I don't recall what he said, I just remember it was a nice thing so not every thing is negative.

Dave really some of the Cruisemates ladies may scare you, but we will never hurt you, so don't be afraid...except of Katladys squirrels.
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I aint scared , I always enjoy people that think, give opinion and give me a hard time...I / you or others we give opinion....and others react..... Thats what makes things like this for me.

Just dont take me so personal ....unless your last resort is to slag me off, because you can think of no other way of dealing with my opinion.

I do respect for those that question or challenge my opinion, but not people that read it and then just say your an A, and that is their reaction to the question or thought given. That is what really winds me up

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Never thought I would hear an American complain about adverts, comercialism or things that may be misleading in what they represent

HELLO, is that not the ethos of what advertising is about and the basis of a lot of things? Read it, see it....so it must be true e
Okay I will give you an opinion on what you said. Why would you say Americans never complain about ads? America is a pretty big place with a very diverese group of people in it. To say no one in all of Amercia would complain about ads to a mass generalization. What country are you from? and in that country do all the people think the same?

Americans complain about ads all the time: they are dumb, they are hard to understand, they are misleading and they are to sexy. These are just some of the complains. There are very few people who watch an ad and hold it as truth.
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Point very much taken katlady,,,I understand. 8), and respect. I should deal with the individual and not how "some could" think or react as a society.

I appreciate that honest well thought point of view. The fact this thread exists is proof of what you say

But, what you were actually dealing with was my sense of sarcasm or humour, but as said,,,when in type and not in reflection of tone…. that can be missed.

And also sometimes or a lot I say things for the “wind up? value, just to see who and how many bite
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While watching Dancing with the Stars last night, I noticed that NCL repeated the vile commercial depicting crusing (other than NCL) to be a highly regimented, tightly scheduled vacation. It depicts passengers forced into crowded lockstep in dining and activities.
I agree that the commercial misrepresents other cruise lines, but I think the word "vile" is too strong -- plus I think even people who've never cruised would recognize the hyperbole in the ad.
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You know, after seeing this ad a few more times (and I DO have a college degree in marketing), I've come to feel that this ad was initially intended to be humorous, but just "missed the mark." There is, after all, a very thin line between that which is humorous and that which is offensive -- at least to some people. Even the best ad writers cross that line sometimes.
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babe ruth,
We are talking about that ad.
Would you agree that it accomplished its goal?

I personally find nothing offensive and applaud them for getting us to talk about it.
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I wouldn't agree that it accomplished its goal with me personally, as it certainly does not motivate me to cruise NCL! And the goal of an ad is to capture some of my money -- not my conversation.
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Well...I just meant that I thought the goal of advertising was to get us to mention the product long after the commercial is over.
Was only asking to your schoolin'.
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I'm not a NCL cruiser so I don't care for the add one way or another. The problem is that all cruise lines are building more ships every year , and they get bigger and bigger, so they will have a dificult time in filling those ships. Therefore we can be prepared for a lot more silly commercials.

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Manuel,I hope you are right!!

More cabins means more competition for our cruising dollar and that can only be good
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Well...I just meant that I thought the goal of advertising was to get us to mention the product long after the commercial is over.
Was only asking to your schoolin'.
Have done NCL, RCCL and CCL cruiselines, I have experience with NCL's Freestyle. I hated it. However, . . .

The ad will probably catch the attention of experience cruisers whose main objection during cruising is the set time for dinner. That is the only thing the commerical highlights.

I think the freestyle dining option takes away from the cruise experience in that everyone is doing different things at different time. On a traditional dining cruise, there is the "early diners" and the "late diners". After a day or two, the people in whichever group you belong to will start to become somewhat familiar. Even if it is just a quick smile or nod hello while passing by. The same general crowd take in the various shows at the same time, partake in the casino at around the same time and enjoy a pre/after dinner cocktail at one of the ship's bars at around the same hour. All in all with traditional dining, the atmosphere on board is more akin to the old fashioned cruising decorum.

With freestyle, everyone remains a virtual strange the entire cruise. Plus the quality of food suffers horribly (IMHO).
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If you are going to cruise NCL in Hawaii you are going to be awfully disappointed. NCL for the rest of the cruising world is great. NCL Hawaii is brutal. Bad service, surly crew etc etc etc. They really give NCL a bad name.
Freestyle cruising is great. Remember, you are on holiday, you paid for it so why do you want people telling you when to eat etc.
I do like the other lines too but I like the choices I have with NCL
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NCL and NCL America are VERY differnt birds.

Anyone who cruises NCL America has to set their expectations VERY different from previouses cruises in other areas. If they don't, they've done very little research.
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Well...I just meant that I thought the goal of advertising was to get us to mention the product long after the commercial is over.
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Have done NCL, RCCL and CCL cruiselines, I have experience with NCL's Freestyle. I hated it. However, . . .

The ad will probably catch the attention of experience cruisers whose main objection during cruising is the set time for dinner. That is the only thing the commerical highlights.

I think the freestyle dining option takes away from the cruise experience in that everyone is doing different things at different time. On a traditional dining cruise, there is the "early diners" and the "late diners". After a day or two, the people in whichever group you belong to will start to become somewhat familiar. Even if it is just a quick smile or nod hello while passing by. The same general crowd take in the various shows at the same time, partake in the casino at around the same time and enjoy a pre/after dinner cocktail at one of the ship's bars at around the same hour. All in all with traditional dining, the atmosphere on board is more akin to the old fashioned cruising decorum.

With freestyle, everyone remains a virtual strange the entire cruise. Plus the quality of food suffers horribly (IMHO).
I agree. The commercial in question totally misses the mark. I, for one, have never seen passengers consult their watches en mass, and then march off to the dining room. I realize that this is a parodie, but a bad one. DW and I dine at the LIDO (on previous HAL cruises) most of the time anyway, so the only difference for us vis-a-vis "freestyle dining" on our recent NCL cruise was inferior fare. Not a big selling point for me. That along with several other short-falls by NCL sealed their fate with us. We'll take our robotic business elsewhere.
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