As long as thier good time does not adversly affect my good time, I really don't care what other people do on thier cruise. To clarify, my good time is not impacted by what someone else wears, how much they eat, how long they laze by the pool, where they go on excursions, how much they imbibe or most other legal activities they may participate in.
However, if they are loud and obnoxious, puke all over the place, jump over board (thereby stopping the ship) make noise that interfers with my sleep and the like, that is a problem. I frown on people being jerks, even if thier jerkness is centered on others, but such is life. I won't allow someone elses attitude shape my own.
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I try to be friendly and expect those I meet to also be friendly. I have very rarely been disappointed. On a cruise, you can be great buddies with total strangers.
Thats an interesting statement thasic, "I won't allow someone elses attitude shape my own".
You may not allow it to shape your attitude, but what do you do as a person, as an individual when what is presented to you from others goes against the things that tick yours and others boxes having spent all this money to be there, eh... ie
This is not what I expected..............so
God I have to live with these people for X days...I dont like it.
If everyone acts and reacts like this, my vacation is wasted..... dont like it
How do people in that postition react? Well in my opinion they usually blame the line or ship for placing them amongst other people that do not think or act like them. What did they expect?
And it appears its dealt with in four ways. Number 1, you let it fester in you, then take a stance of I wish I had said or done something at that moment in time regarding these people, but I didn't........ but it's easier to complain later on a web board.
or Number 2, I said something at the time and all hell broke loose, yes it gave me a vent, but it still killed my experience as I got so wound up about it, it wasted or nearly wasted my cruise.
Or number three you go onboard anyship with the attitude that everyone will not think, act or have the same values as me. So I will take all presented for what it is and enjoy myself.
What I believe is, always do your own thing and take your own personal expectation on a cruise knowing that others do not always act or think like you, dont expect them to.
Oh and number 4.... I / We just stayed quiet, we never complained but hated it, and will never cruise again
mmmmmmm....So why is it that the posts generated now in complaint are mostly about other passengers, and how "others" act or react on a cruise, and very rarely about the lines and the product they offer.............thats the thought behind this and also the truth regarding how some people react to what is presented.
You can't control another person's behavior just your reaction to it. I agree if your behavior doesn't impact my cruise do what you want. If you puke in the elevator and I slip and fall that impacts my cruise and I'm not happy. Luck for me on that occasion I let other people board the elevator first and she slipped but didn't fall. That was gross but I still had a great time on that cruise.
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Thanks folks, so at this point tonight we have 81% of people voting and feeling that they either 'Do their own thing' 60% or 'they never thought about it, ie others (21%)' when going on a cruise.
Not surprised by any means, thats how it is today
So any other oldies out there expecting 'understanding', in that others will follow the line regarding dress code, behaviour, formal dining standards and all that forget it.................It may not be gone yet, but give it another 10 years.
Quite sad actually as all of us still "expect" certain things on a ship. But some of us old timers also lived their lives as individuals, and doing their own thing even back then as people in our day to day lives.
But when on a ship we still expected a certain coming together of all those individual spirits and souls to celebrate why we where there, and in that we expected, a dress code, behaviour, and a presentation of YOU to us as a fellow passenger . And towards that people made an effort, in respect to the others around them.
That common understanding, recognition of the 'ship' rules for the majority of the market has gone, and all you have now are a bunch of individuals doing what they do "My thing" and never really experiencing what cruising actually was,,,,thats sad
I'm with Dan on this one. Cruising used to be about transatlantic travel, where social class was SOOO important. That carried over into early days of leisure cruising. But, I'm glad to see the old social class structure disappear. Really glad, actually!
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i do my own thing and expect others to do theirs. i however do not put up with disrespectfulness in the dining room at the table or towards the servers. i believe in manners and cannot stand it when sitting with someone flat disrespectful/rude! anywhere else, to each his/her own unless it is affecting me in a direct way.
Nice one cutiecat, see thats the problem today, people doing their own thing to the degree that they can be ignorant not only to other passengers, but the crew as well.
That type of ahole was always there on a ship even back in the dark days. But they appear to be more and more.
Everyone since cruising was invented has always done their own thing, but very rarely to the disadvantage of other passengers or the crew, thats the worrying trend I see growing......I'm all right and to hell with the rest of you...thats not just doing your own thing. Thats a statement others have to live with
But I am not talking about the majority of people here, as everyone goes on vacation to do their own thing. But in doing so and doing your own thing, you hope that other people will do the same with regard for others as most reasonable people will.
Unfortunately, the ones who could not care how their actions or reactions impact on others on ship seem to be growing.
Most people do their own thing but also with regards for others. What am I saying...well the "nut jobs" and their children seem to be increasing on every cruise I go on. They dont carry that "switch" regarding social behavior to others.
Ya kinda hit one point with me.
I am sick and tired of listening to kids scream in restaurants, stores, airports, etc. as their parents say "shush" and such.
I say "take em outside until they can shut up". (My folks did)
Parents always get offended but I hear many comments agreeing with me.
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Yes, I think the wording of the choices is what has several of us scratching our heads at the OP's responses.
I took the question to mean: Do you let the behavior of others ruin your good time? My answer to that is: No, I do my own thing--meaning that I'm able to, for the most part, tune out those around me that are behaving offensively (but I do have a line that you better not cross).
From the OP's responses, I think he interprets his question to be: Are you an obnoxious buffoon who will do as they please on a cruise and not worry about how it affects others? My response to that is: I will most certainly not be the passenger on a cruise that others go home complaining about--you probably won't know I'm there.
So given today’s you "do your own thing" society and kids running around not only on a ship but in everyday neighbourhood…and life with one or maybe two if they are lucky parents at home that could not give a toss about how they live or act,,,,,,until you react or chastise one of "theirs", then they care…oh dear
How do you and I .......and I mean this word as it is explained in the Oxford dictionary react to the word or tone "tolerance"
See I'm trying to have a nice vacation, being social and understanding of my fellow passengers, I RESPECT OTHERS as THEY understand those rules as well, but in today’s society and the cheap availability of cruising .... How do you or I deal with the numb nuts in life that don’t get that code or even think about it?
They are cruising more and more, as it’s a cheap vacation with all you can eat and personal responsibility for some in only the price they paid and no reflection or thought on others who happen to be there at the same time.
What I am responding to is.... that you cannot drag some people out of the Sh*t lives they lead as parents or adults in their normal day to day life because they got a CHEAP CRUISE" and then expect them to become a socially acceptable person to others....especially when they do not live these same social values at home towards others.
Big excuse, we are on vacation, that covers a multitude of anti social behaviour.
I do not condone ill mannerisms and will speak up to bring it to the person's attention. I am well behaved when on a cruise and I expect the majority of the people to do the same.
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What I am responding to is.... that you cannot drag some people out of the Sh*t lives they lead as parents or adults in their normal day to day life because they got a CHEAP CRUISE" and then expect them to become a socially acceptable person to others....especially when they do not live these same social values at home towards others.
Big excuse, we are on vacation, that covers a multitude of anti social behaviour.
Been reading your posts on this topic and others. I take it that you don't go on cruises anymore? I am sorry .... sounds like you have had miserable cruises buddy. Thats too bad because I am sure you would be a real joy to sail with. However, I do enjoy your posts because they improve my vocabulary.
What I am responding to is.... that you cannot drag some people out of the Sh*t lives they lead as parents or adults in their normal day to day life because they got a CHEAP CRUISE" and then expect them to become a socially acceptable person to others....especially when they do not live these same social values at home towards others.
Big excuse, we are on vacation, that covers a multitude of anti social behaviour.
Been reading your posts on this topic and others. I take it that you don't go on cruises anymore? I am sorry .... sounds like you have had miserable cruises buddy. Thats too bad because I am sure you would be a real joy to sail with. However, I do enjoy your posts because they improve my vocabulary.
Rick,
He has many more interesting posts.
I've just forgotten the names he used.
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Your complaint about the attitude found on cruises may be correct, I don't know, I haven't been cruising very long. Your attitiude seems a bit elitist, as if you do not wish to be bothered by the lesser class of people in the world.
I don't know if that is what you meant, but if the 'common man' is not your cup of tea (nothing wrong with that), cruise on an elite cruise line. The common folk choose inexpensive lines to travel on. The tuxedo crowd is free to cruise there as well, but expect to mix with the blue jeans crowd.
I find the world is made up of many types of people. I try to find the good in whoever I'm with. A bit pollyana maybe, but that's how I am. There are some people I don't care for. I avoid them. I certainly won't let them ruin my vacation or any other aspect of my life.
As for me, I choose to cruise on the mid range family lines, Disney, Royal Carribean and the like. I prefer the crowds that choose these lines and I find the price palatable. Likewise I avoid Carnival and that ilk (I have never cruised on Carnival, but I know people that have and I trust thier opinions). Loudest flatulence contests and biggest beer bellies are not my idea of a fun time. I also avoid the high end cruise lines since I don't take well to people that are bigger snobs than me. To each his own. If you can't or won't pay the price of the elite lines, you will just have to put up with us common folk, sorry.
The cruise industry has changed over the last decade or so. The new cruise lines are trying to attract a larger customer base. They are trying to appeal to the middle class. There are just not enough 'rich' people (whatever that means) to keep all these ships going. There are still niche lines that were designed for people of "more refined tastes". You get what you pay for.
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Rick or Admiral Rick…that’s very important position... people take stock of that! Well done you
So in reply, what exactly in reply are you ASKING me or alluding too?
I'm pleased that I can help your vocabulary, but sad that you TOTALLY missed the point of the post.
I still cruise and how you could think I don’t from my words or experience ,,,mmmm
I am taking about people and the variety of them with varied social attitude to others that you now get on "BULK LINES".
A lot of people think a cruise is "special"...its not anymore especially on some lines, due to the cheap price and the mass market appeal, You will still experience like minded people to you on ship, but more and more an increase in level of nut jobs that at home you would not even give the time of day to. Why?
Due to how they and their family live their social values, including how their children dictate to them, or are ignored or basically no education or direction on how they in their lives, act or react to others. Social skill...
That’s my problem, you do your thing, I will do mine….but please do not ignore that your thing could waste my vacation as some do not even consider their action against or expect a reaction in others…….Oh we are only having fun in some peoples eyes, and how it it seen
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What do you expect or do you?
but I still had a great time on that cruise.
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