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I hate to complain about cruising, because I love to cruise! However, I did not love the Holiday. I think this ship needs to be retired. It is not at the Carnival level anymore. The Holiday rocked terribly. The motor roared loudly, and the water looked dirty! The hallways smelled like urine. It was truly a bad experience! It was not your typical Carnival Cruise! I realize it is smaller, but I love the Celibration. I wish they would get rid of the Holiday instead, and bring the Celebration to Mobile!
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This makes me want to ask the question. How long should a ship be in service before it's retired? 10, 20, or 30 years? Would a long dry dock help the Holiday or is it past it's prime?
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Would a long dry dock help the Holiday or is it past it's prime?
I really don't know. I would assume so, because the Celebration is the same age and its wonderful!
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I was onthe Holiday in 1991 when it was a six year old ship. I could feel the vibrations from the engines while in the show lounge. I don't think much can be done about the engine as it is old style. The Holiday is being retired and sold off to do European cruises so it will get a thorough gutting and refit before it enters service. I am sure they will do as much retrofitting and repairs as possible. As for motion, it is considered a small ship now considering that most of Carnival's fleet is between 70 000 GRT and 110 000 GRT.
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Thanks, so we can look forward to another crap ship being sent to do Europe,,,mmm from Carnival. Thank goodness for P&O, at least we get new ones from them and not the cast offs not seen as fit to sail the Caribbean
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U.S. Navy warships routinely go 30 years, so why not cruise ships? If it's good enough for our sailors, why not for the rest of us?!

But when any ship reaches the end of its useful life, I hope it's recycled. I know ships are scrapped, and the steel is re-used, but I wonder what happens to all the rest of it. I wonder how "green" the scrapping process is?

As a woodworker, I would love to get ahold of some of the fine woods used on cruise ships!

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I hate to complain about cruising, because I love to cruise! However, I did not love the Holiday. I think this ship needs to be retired. It is not at the Carnival level anymore. The Holiday rocked terribly. The motor roared loudly, and the water looked dirty! The hallways smelled like urine. It was truly a bad experience! It was not your typical Carnival Cruise! I realize it is smaller, but I love the Celibration. I wish they would get rid of the Holiday instead, and bring the Celebration to Mobile!
Don't know when Hightower cruised, but I just did a B2B on the Holiday in Feb and other than the slightly brown water, I did not smell the urine nor hear the engines"roar".

The Holiday is an older ship, yes, but other than not having the glitz is still a fine one.

With todays access to the internet and all the information avaiable, I don't understand why people don't do more research before they cruise. Then they know what to expect and can enjoy, instead of coming back and exagerrating (complaining).

Have a great cruise!
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As I said before, I did not mean to complain. I was just telling it like it was. I am so glad that others are still having fun on the Holiday. I did not exaggerate. Remember, no two cruises are the same. I also went in Febuary. I am glad that you did not
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Here is a recent example.
Carnival's Holiday Cruise Ship can't seem to catch a break. 145 passengers and crew members came down with a gastrointestinal illness.
http://www.wkrg.com/news/article/cru...sickness/9898/
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I was on the Holiday on the Jan 24 cruise mentioned in the article and still managed to have a great time. Using what I consider standard cruise ship hygiene I had no problem but yes some people were sick. After the outbreak pools and hot tubs were closed and the buffet did not allow self service. The crew was cleaning everything. This can happen on any ship. I will agree that the Holiday no longer gives the same experience we have come to expect from Carnival. If you book this ship you are not getting the same experience as a Conquest or Spirit Class ship. That said if you do your homework and know what to expect it is still a terrific value from a local port.
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Bottom line is if you sail the oldest ship in the fleet don't expect too much!
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I still had a good time. I was just being honest about the Holiday. If the Holiday is leaving, what ship will take its place?
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I don't think the replacement has been named yet but the grape vine has one of the Fantasy Class ships moving to Mobile sometime in 2009.
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I still had a good time. I was just being honest about the Holiday. If the Holiday is leaving, what ship will take its place?
Emily are you related to Debra Hightower who crusied spring break week on the Holiday (first week in April)? I know Debra is a travel agent and youseem to be too.

Maybe since psring break has been going onindiffeant areas sinc emid March the Holiday got a bunch of rowdy college student crusiers and the carpet being old just did not clean up well.
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The Carnival Rep who spoke at the cruise show in Mobile a couple of months ago, said the Holiday would be replaced in 2009 by aFantasy Class Ship. My bet is Sensation or Fantasy.
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I was onthe Holiday in 1991 when it was a six year old ship. I could feel the vibrations from the engines while in the show lounge. I don't think much can be done about the engine as it is old style. The Holiday is being retired and sold off to do European cruises so it will get a thorough gutting and refit before it enters service. I am sure they will do as much retrofitting and repairs as possible. As for motion, it is considered a small ship now considering that most of Carnival's fleet is between 70 000 GRT and 110 000 GRT.
I know the Celebration is now on its way to Spain to be renamed and recommissioned but I thought the Holiday was to remain here through 2009.
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[/quote]Emily are you related to Debra Hightower who crusied spring break week on the Holiday (first week in April)? I know Debra is a travel agent and youseem to be too.

Maybe since psring break has been going onindiffeant areas sinc emid March the Holiday got a bunch of rowdy college student crusiers and the carpet being old just did not clean up well.[/quote]

No, I am not related to Debra Hightower that I know of. I have never been on a spring break cruise. I plan on going on one next year. I haven't decide on the cruise yet though!
I am not a travel agent either. I am a teacher. I plan group cruises though. I plan the cruise and get people signed up. Then, I send it to the travel agent. i don't make any money, but I get the discount. If we have enough people, I get a free cabin. I still have to pay the taxes and fees though.
I hate that my comments on the Holiday caused such a stir. I did not mean to upset anyone. I did enjoy the crusie, but it just wasn't what I expected. I had been on its sister ship the Celebration in Novmember. I was wowed by the Celebration, and I expected the Holiday to be similar. I now realize that on to cruses or crusieships are the same.
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