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Old May 29th, 2008, 04:35 PM
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I am not accustomed to posting a gripe about a cruise line, and while I really enjoyed the Cruisemates Trans-Atlantic cruise on Carnival Freedom, I did not appreciate some money saving or revenue raising changes.

On this 14 day cruise, there were five nights when there was no real professional entertainment in the theatre. On the first night, there was primarily the introduction by the cruise director, but no 15 minute or so routine by a comedian or singer thast I am used to on on other ships.
Perhaps I left the theatre too early.

On two other nights, the entertainment was amateur night provided by the passengers. On the last night of the cruise there was nothing. On one other night there was professional entertainment on the deck but nothing in the theatre. Also, there was only one late night adult comedy show ( which I never attend) where usually on Carnival there are at least three.

Also, on virtually every everning when there was a professional show, there was a bingo game in the theatre 30 minutes before both the main and later sitting shows. This made a lot of money for Carnival and made it necessary to arrive more than a half hour before the show if you wanted a seat.

Other than that, the cruise was great, the food was mostly excellent, the seas were calm and the ports were interesting.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 03:40 PM
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So Paul, the lines are cutting back on their having to PAY FOR entertainment in favour of "bingo" or other things that will make more money from the passengers instead. What a shock

Mmmm, cant get my head around why they would do that

It would be really interesting to hear from other folks that usually "do the shows" , and gauge how they feel it has changed in quality or quantity over their cruising exerience.

Personally as a potential cancer victim (smoker) I cant do shows, no smoking and tooo long, but I have seen a good few examples when the DW drags me along

My slight argument on all this would be using the word “professional” when describing some ship entertainment. It’s like the brochures saying “Broadway style shows”, yes the styles have a lot in common, and that is both sets of people are on a stage, and are just like Broadway …but that’s about it!!

Good post bud 8)
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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:50 PM
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I had the pleasure of being on this cruise with Paul. Hi Paul ::waves:: I agree with what he said. However, I found the quality of the shows to be very good. Marcus Anthony under the stars, Ticket to Ride, and Big Easy shows were very good.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 05:35 PM
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David, old friend, I agree with you that the term "professional" is a bit charitable in describing the performance by some of the paid entertainers on cruise ships. However; food, shows, casino and ports are the main reasons I cruise, certainly not lying out on the deck all day in the sun or watching other passengers make fools of themselves.

If you notice, my gripe was about the cruise line, not the other passengers. I don't feel that I have the right to criticize other people for their conduct.

I still would like to dine with you on a cruise someday, and I wouldn't mind it at all if you had to get up halfway through the meal to go outside and do your thing.

Also, if you aren't careful, you may end up as an admiral again.
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As I read the thread, the description of "professional" hit me also. I do understand what you are talking about though.
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Old May 31st, 2008, 01:47 PM
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The pre-show bingo and passenger "talent" show have sadly become common on Carnival...been going on for years now. I never liked the comedians much, so don't have any input there. But, our recent Carnival cruise had the poorest production shows I have ever seen. Choreography was pathetic. I think maybe instead of using one of the companies that put shows together for cruise lines, that Carnival is trying to pinch a particular penny by doing their own. Oh well, back to trying other line again.
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If you time it right, you can find 5 day Carnival cruises on their web site for around 250 pp. Do you really expect your going to get a Broadway quality show nightly when fares are as low as that? Broadway STYLE maybe but not Broadway QUALITY. Having been on both Carnival and RCCI, I've found the shows on both to be about the quality of a medium sized college/university theatre dept. production...Nice and entertaining enough for what I paid. Remember that 250 pp for a 5 night cruise is about what you would pay for a really good seat at a 2 hour Broadway show in New York!...Or how much would a good seat, parking, food etc be at a 3 hour NFL game these days?....I think you get my point. Even on a 2 week cruise, which I understand is a good deal more pricy, do you really expect a DIFFERENT production every night for 14 nights for what you paid?

I don't play bingo and do get a little tired of the number of announcements made regarding it on the cruise. On RCCI they even had the announcement come into the speaker in your room (sometimes during a quality nap lol)...My wife and I joked when the PA system came on that they were either going to announce to get our life vests out cause the ship was going down or another bingo game lol..Fortunately, it was always bingo, bingo bingo! I tell you though, if I had to organize a fund raiser for something I would make it bingo...People, especially older folks, go ape sh** for it!
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Ready2board you make a good point. However, the bingo "prizes" were pathetic. You pay $20 for the hope of winning $250. I remember the bingo pots being bigger. Say you have 50 people playing at $20 a piece that is $1000 (not including the scratch off tickets they sell). Why not give half as the prize?
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Even my wife who loves bingo did not play on the Carnival Freedom cruise.

I consider it a mindless game.
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Paul, I will let you and only you Paul, since your my friend, into a dark secret of mine, one that so far I have never shared with anyone else.....I LOVE bingo.

I hope no-one finds out, as it could blow my reputation

Plus far toooo many folks above that I have to say personally,,,,great post guys. 8) Not enough space to quote you all

Its comment, it's debate,,,,brilliant 8)

And Paul re Admiral , I will blow it long before then, you know that 8) You know me, its like snakes and ladders.........
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Ready2board you make a good point. However, the bingo "prizes" were pathetic. You pay $20 for the hope of winning $250. I remember the bingo pots being bigger. Say you have 50 people playing at $20 a piece that is $1000 (not including the scratch off tickets they sell). Why not give half as the prize?
I agree! I've also found the slot machines on the ships about as tight as I've ever played...However, I know a few out there have it some decent payouts.
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Bingo on a cruise ship is boring B5....N23 .......G58.......ZZZZZZZZZZZ
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But bingo is interesting when you win big$$$$
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What I like about bingo personally, other than the physical and mental challenge the game demands and the toll it takes on my body, is the challenge of playing 2 cards and being able to keep up, while the old ladies play 60 cards at one time.
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I was on a cruise in February of this year on the Carnival Victory and Steve Wonder was one of the singers. Now thats what I call entertainment.
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"and Steve Wonder was one of the singers".

He was just one of the singers on a cruise ship.....eh ,,mmm. You sure it was him and not a tribute night?

8) , no way it was him. Your taking the P,,here,,,and was that the same ship that Gordon Ramsey cooked a meal for me personally and had it delivered under strict instructions to the dining room and to my table.

mmm, Yip he's short of a few bucks, I can see Stevie doing Carnival
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I have seen the Stevie Wonder impersonator who works the cruise lines and he is quite good. Very believable. BUT, it is an actor, not the real Stevie.
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