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TravelBugs June 6th, 2008 05:00 PM

Air Fare - Paying by the Pound
Believe it....or not!


DayvidB June 6th, 2008 05:07 PM

Don’t know if this site is for real or not, as it appears to be a joke to me. Why?'s name...derrie air, in Ireland or the UK it means your ASS.

Oh, just re-read,,,, its a wind up, so for me NOT


Sorry, but it appears I missed your joke post, and was far too serious in reply :shock:

Yeah that’s funny, pay the price for a seat based on the size of your ASS and I do actually believe that, if your ass nearly takes up two seats, why should I pay to be the victim that gets squashed up for X hours because the airline seats cant take you and your "ass print" and without infringing on my space.... Was going to say footprint, but that would confuse it..

We crossed in post :D

TravelBugs June 6th, 2008 05:15 PM

DayvidB, a little Friday humor! LOL

katlady June 6th, 2008 05:35 PM

If this airline was real you would pay so much more to get home from the cruise. LOL

TravelBugs June 6th, 2008 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by katlady
If this airline was real you would pay so much more to get home from the cruise. LOL

That's so true! LOL

Mike M June 6th, 2008 06:39 PM

Just like a cruise contract: Read the fine print at the bottom.

I don't think it's something that may not happen at some time in the future.

Take care,

Texasmunk June 7th, 2008 02:56 PM

Makes Sense to Me!
We are getting far LARGER than we once were. The airlines alrady treat us like cargo, so maybe the time has come to charge us like cargo.

Soon We will not have an arrival time, but a guaranted next day delivery

TravelBugs June 7th, 2008 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Mike M
Just like a cruise contract: Read the fine print at the bottom.

I don't think it's something that may not happen at some time in the future.

Take care,

Yes, Always read the fine print! LOL

TravelBugs June 7th, 2008 03:23 PM

Re: Makes Sense to Me!

Originally Posted by Texasmunk
Soon We will not have an arrival time, but a guaranted next day delivery

Good pop! LOL

katlady June 9th, 2008 04:01 AM

Re: Makes Sense to Me!

Originally Posted by TravelBugs

Originally Posted by Texasmunk
Soon We will not have an arrival time, but a guaranted next day delivery

Good pop! LOL

As long as my luggage has a tracking number so I can find it after the airline loses it.

Donna June 9th, 2008 09:40 AM

I have actually heard on the news, its something they are discussing, I certainly hope it doesn't happen, but part of it makes sense, the less weight on the plane the less fuel it takes..

DayvidB June 9th, 2008 05:24 PM

It actually does Donna :D. The less weight, then the less the Captain has to keep the plane in lower gear to shift the plane, just like driving a car :D

Less weight, then there is a slower engine speed or revs required to compensate for the weight,,but the distance to fly is still the same.

Thats why they do all the paper stuff when we are all sitting on the plane waiting to take off 8) They average peoples weight plus actual hold luggage and that all equals FUEL they need to fly, and that equals how hard the engines have to work and given prices, what we pay

Weight makes the engine revs required to do this flight and to keep it in the air, and that ='s the fuel required for the journey

So if people dont get slimmer, and we continue to "IGNORE" the human element of the flight and why people dont need to actually "check" themselves in to get the weight right, then its still based on hold baggage.

I feel they will keep using this "method" until fuel gets to a price and luggage restrictions are giving so little back regarding fuel costs, that people are the next target.

Given the current changes, prices or restrictions on baggage "weight", I can see that "personal weight" thing will becoming a reality, and why not?

Place yourself on scales in front of checkin, and your over the "norm weight",,,you pay more.

And simply because, both people and baggage are the factors in this equation, so why make the slim folks pay for "others" personally carried on "excess baggage"

Sorry, but why should I pay the price the increasing fuel excess for someone who is twice my weight as a person and more than my luggage allownace, No they will not do it, as it’s easier to charge everyone the same to fly, and do "excess" on baggage. Not fair

Weigh me and my luggage

gerif June 11th, 2008 04:41 PM

Actually, there is already one airline (I believe Southwest, but could be mistaken) that requires large people who do not fit in a seat to purchase two seats, so I don't see this as being too far-fetched for the future.

laurabradley June 28th, 2008 03:24 PM

Here's my problem with the idea of charging by weight...

I am overweight. I still fit in a regular seat and use a regular seatbelt, but I am 100 lbs over my ideal weight. I have no problem paying more for my seat because I am heavier.

However, my husband is 6'6" and weighs 250-260lbs. He has very little fat, and is all muscle. By the charts, he is considered obese, but in fact he just has a large build and is very healthy. So why should he have to pay more to fly just because his body is so heavy. The charts say he should be 210 lbs, and he would have to be quite sick to get to that weight.

In order for this to work, they would have to figure who is overweight by choice, vs. those who are by lifestyle. It would never work.


DayvidB June 28th, 2008 04:03 PM

I do agree we are all different in size and build,,thats nature. But if the airlines limit everyone on baggage weight and that determines the price of your ticket, ie one bag each and at a max of 20 kilo or 44 pounds each. :-? mmm.

The baggage allowance at check in weight is reducing as far as I can see, but that's still only one side of the story.

Sorry, but the physical size of the passengers must also come into it.

You admit you are 100lbs over your ideal weight, and your husband is also huge. Why should I be restricted on baggage or the space available to me in the “other” seat if I sit beside you, and because of your personal choice in life?

And just to pay for the experience in the weight of my baggage allowance and ticket?

It is your life, but sorry I should not be paying more for it

nvabill June 29th, 2008 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by laurabradley
In order for this to work, they would have to figure who is overweight by choice, vs. those who are by lifestyle. It would never work.


I must take exception with this one. Every pound the airlines lift off the ground adds to total weight and figures into the fuel equation and what it costs to operate the airplane. It doesn't matter one bit if a person is of a particular weight because of this or that it only matters what they weigh. This is why the airlines are cutting back on water carried, fuel carried, magazines, food, hell even the paint on the outside of the airplane figures into it. Every pound is critical to the airlines and I am willing to pay for my carcus to be carried but I'm not going to subsidise others, that is up to them to pay for!

colorcrazie June 29th, 2008 04:25 PM

Right on, Bill. Thanks for an intelligent response. I think that people, myself included, sometimes take things personally, when the real reason is purely practical and has nothing to do with them individually. Airlines are not punishing overweight people, there are trying to stay in business.

rinker250 June 30th, 2008 08:24 PM

Ya gotta remember, in this great enabling country we live, the very overweight folks are getting ADA consideration yet their only disability is fork-to-mouth disease.

laurabradley July 2nd, 2008 11:11 PM

I'm sorry, did any of you who responded to my post actually read what I wrote?

I am overweight by choice. Not by disease, or genetics. It's obviously how I choose to be, because I could make the choice to be smaller by eating less and moving more. I get that. I'm not making excuses for myself at all.

I do think that it would be discrimatory though to charge by the pound for those who have an ideal weight for their frame. Which is why it will never work for airlines to have us pay by the pound for our own seats. Why should a tiny woman pay less for her seat than an average sized man?


NY Cruisin Mama July 3rd, 2008 02:21 AM

Well, the airlines won't have to worry about the weight of the passengers
as less and less people will be flying - then they can take their empty
seats and put them in their empty pockets. This is all based on "averages"
and the skinny balance out the endowed. And IF a person is so large
as to need two seats - then of course, they should pay for them. (I am sure they are completely aware of that already!) However, why should a person be discriminated against because they may not be a size 5 or 6 - this reasoning may hold water with some airlines but you can bet the
lawyers will have a field day when passengers are refused traveland start with the lawsuits. Sounds
like the South before Kennedy and Martin Luther King - let's all sit in the
back of the plane because we are "second class" citizens. My money is
just as green as yours and spends the same way - I should be entitled
to the same products and services. :x :x

katlady July 3rd, 2008 11:44 AM

Charging by weight would not work. DayvidB, you are male so why should a 5 foot 110 pound woman have to pay extra for you? She is smaller and thinner than you. In fact they should make a plane with smaller seats so she can be comfortable.

Say a women was traveling with her 8 year old son. The woman is 200 pounds and her son sitting next to her on the plane is 75 pound together the weight is 275. The average per person is 137.5 that is a lower weight than most men. How do you charge them?

Unless everyone is weighted and charged per pound it doesn't work. However that has problems to. For example if a really heavy person who normally buys two seats anyway is charged per pound how do they charge the person for the second seat? Does first or business class have a higher per pound price? What about the extra weight for someone's wheelchair is that added? Most important is the scale out in front of everyone?:shock: Cause I can just take a train or a ship.

Hpine1 July 3rd, 2008 07:48 PM

Just a thought. If you are under weight will the airlines reduce your airfare. Henry

NY Cruisin Mama July 3rd, 2008 08:55 PM

Henry - very good question (really funny, too!)

Donna July 3rd, 2008 09:29 PM

I like that question Henry, makes you wonder??

rinker250 July 4th, 2008 02:44 PM


Attendant: Welcome aboard Ala Carte Air, sir. May I see your ticket?

Passenger: Sure.

Attendant: You're in seat 12B. That will be $5, please!

Passenger: What for?

Attendant: For telling you where to sit.

Passenger: But I already knew where to sit.

Attendant: Nevertheless, we are now charging a seat locator fee of $5. It's the airline's new policy.

Passenger: That's the craziest thing I ever heard. I won't pay it.

Attendant: Sir, do you want a seat on this flight, or not?

Passenger: Yes, yes. All right, I'll pay. But the airline is going to hear about this.

Attendant: Thank you. My goodness, your carry-on bag looks heavy. Would you like me to stow it in the overhead compartment for you?

Passenger: That would be swell, thanks.

Attendant: No problem. Up we go, and done! That will be $10, please.

Passenger: What?

Attendant: The airline now charges a $10 carry-on assistance fee.

Passenger: This is extortion. I won't stand for it.

Attendant: Actually, you're right, you can't stand. You need to sit, And fasten your seat belt. We're about to push back from the gate. But, first I need that $10.

Passenger: No way!

Attendant: Sir, if you don't comply, I will be forced to call the air marshal. And you really don't want me to do that.

Passenger: Why not? Is he going to shoot me?

Attendant: No, but there's a $50 air-marshal hailing fee.

Passenger: Oh, all right, here, take the $10. I can't believe this.

Attendant: Thank you for your cooperation, sir. Is there anything else I can do for you?

Passenger: Yes. It's stuffy in here, and my overhead fan doesn't seem to work. Can you fix it?

Attendant: Your overhead fan is not broken, sir. Just insert two quarters into the Overhead coin slot for the first five minutes.

Passenger: The airline is charging me for cabin air?

Attendant: Of course not, sir. Stagnant cabin air is provided free of charge. It's the circulating air that costs 50 cents.

Passenger: I don't have any quarters. Can you make change for a dollar?

Attendant: Certainly, sir! Here you go!

Passenger: But you've given me only three quarters for my dollar.

Attendant: Yes, there's a change making fee of 25 cents.

Passenger: For cryin' out loud. All I have left is a lousy quarter? What the heck can I do with this?

Attendant: Hang onto it. You'll need it later for the lavatory.

NY Cruisin Mama July 4th, 2008 02:51 PM

Dan - this is fantastic!!! Are you sure you don't want a job as a comedian
on the cruise ships or anywhere for that matter - bet you would be great !!

rinker250 July 4th, 2008 03:04 PM

Thanks, but my Dad sent that to me.
I just cut and pasted it.

DayvidB July 4th, 2008 05:07 PM


For one I am not saying the airlines are going to do this, it was posted as a "what could be the next scenario", given what they allow in baggage allowance and what they now charge for being over it.

And two, people will reduce their luggage to not pay "excess", so when they the lines dont get the extra they need from that to pay for the increasing fuel price,,,what or who can be next?

Will it be ticket price for all?,,,no

Sorry, and for all the reasoning given above, it could and may happen yet.

They picked the size and weight of baggage and that dont work to cover help costs....look out.

But please remember that I am giving you a scenario and that does not always mean what I agree with.

NY Cruisin Mama July 4th, 2008 05:12 PM

Ok, you are forgiven. Honestly, though, your comments are well taken.
Have a nice 4th !!

Mean Dean July 4th, 2008 07:22 PM

The way things are going, the boarding calls will become cattle calls.


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