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Old September 24th, 2008, 10:48 AM
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Hey you guys. I wondered about this subject. We just got back from the Norwegian Dream to Canada and had a really nice time. The thing that I thought was strange, and nickle and diming, was the corking fee that they hit you with. Now, I don't mind paying this fee in the restaurant, but when you want a glass of wine in your room and you are doing the uncorking? Before you even board the ship, they xray your luggage and call you downstairs to the whatever room and hand you stickers to put on your 2 lonely bottles of wine. That way, they will know if you paid your corking fee. Ok, some of you may think I am petty over this, but we spend a fair amount on the bar bill on board and simple felt like having a gass of wine before dinner while in our room. Any comments?
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You mean they made you pay your corkage fee in "the naughty room"? On all other lines you only pay a corkage fee, on wine, if you have it opened in the dining room or a lounge.

I guess NCL is really getting hard core. I guess they want to sell more of that REALLY BAD NCL house wine.

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I haven't cruised NCL before. This is the first time I have heard of a corkage fee for opening a bottle of wine in your room. That is a bummer, I hope the other lines don't start doing this.
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Yes, we were actually quite embarrased to be sent to the "naughty room", especially since we were told by our TA that we were allowed 2 bottles of wine. This was a first for us.
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It has been that way for over a year now
It is noted in the fine print that you will be charged for bringing wine on board no matter where you drink it.
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Its really sad, but in some cases they sell you the vacation so cheap that they rely on you buying all your booze onboard to make up the price, plus the casino lost money.

They dont get that income from all, I can see why they place that tax.
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At least you had the option to do that - on RCCL, you can't even bring a bottle on board at all, but have to pay for their grossly overpriced wine.
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This is how I was explained it by a couple of different cruise lines as a travel agent....

Some cruise lines allow you to bring your own bottles, however they require you put them on your carry on luggage (Carnival particularly) no liquor is allowed to be brought on but wine is excepted by most. They do charge you a corking fee from there if you call to have them open it. Last time I cruised I forgot to pack my bottle opener in my luggage (Note: not my carry on!) As crazy as it sounds I used a hanger we'd brought on board and rigged an opener just so I didn't have to pay this stupid fee! As a suggestion, put your wine on your carry on and your bottle opener in your check(so to say) luggage! Your going through two different departments (Port security and cruise line security!) they rarely communicate between one another, their is always a small chance of getting caught, but not as likely!
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This is how I was explained it by a couple of different cruise lines as a travel agent....

Some cruise lines allow you to bring your own bottles, however they require you put them on your carry on luggage (Carnival particularly) no liquor is allowed to be brought on but wine is excepted by most. They do charge you a corking fee from there if you call to have them open it. Last time I cruised I forgot to pack my bottle opener in my luggage (Note: not my carry on!) As crazy as it sounds I used a hanger we'd brought on board and rigged an opener just so I didn't have to pay this stupid fee! As a suggestion, put your wine on your carry on and your bottle opener in your check(so to say) luggage! Your going through two different departments (Port security and cruise line security!) they rarely communicate between one another, their is always a small chance of getting caught, but not as likely!
See this is why I don't have a travel agent. Carnival allows one bottle of wine per person over 21 years of age. It's listed in their ticket contract on thier website. All cruise lines have different rules regarding this. As someone else said RCCL doesn't allow any booze of any kind including wine. This is from the Carnival Cruise Line Ticket Contract:
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[i](f) Except as noted below, Guests are prohibited from bringing alcohol on Carnival’s vessels for on board consumption. However, at the beginning of the cruise during embarkation day only, guests 21 years and older may bring one bottle of wine or champagne per person on board. A $10 corkage fee per bottle will be charged should guests wish to consume this wine/champagne in the dining room, or a $14 corkage fee per bottle if consumed in the Supper Club. All alcohol, additional quantities of wine/champagne and excessive non-alcoholic beverages will be confiscated and discarded without compensation.
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To me, to have two different charges to uncork, in different locations onboard is nickel and diming personified! Gimme a break!
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Thank you. Especially since this was for our room. We bought wine for dinner in the dining room. We thought we were following the rules and were embarassed to be sent to the naughty room so they could charge us a corking fee. We had no intention of lugging this to the dining room.
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Does anyone know what the procedure is for Princess on the cork fee?
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Same as the rest, you want to drink it the dining room, then they will stiff you on corkage.

There are two games going on here.

1/ Some think we can do what we like re booze in port and can take it on board,,,and then they get a shock when its confiscated or when they are asked for a fee to open it.

or number 2/

Been there enough times to know what we can away with and how to play it.

But playing it is getting really tight, bottom line is if you are seen as depriving the ship or line of income, they will kill you on rules. Try setting up your own poker school in a lounge on ship and see how that goes down!!

They are doing these things because they let you sleep and eat for cheap on their ship, and by doing that expecting you to give them more money in other areas, simple. And good on them for enforcing that.

Smugglers, or naïve people thinking they can walk onto a ship having paid bottom dollar to be there, make me think that. I am paying your surplus in the costs I pay for excursions or service or drinks that you cant afford,,,so please go away or take pay the onboard prices or if you bring it onboard the hidden ship tax,,,, I’m so with the lines on this one.

Totally fed up subsidising people on ships that can’t afford to be there and nickel and dime through buying cheaper on shore, and then have the arrogance to expect to present it to the waiter at dinner that night to open for their meal, and as if it should mean 'nothing' to the line.

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Velcome to Stalag Cruise Lines. You vill have a goot time but you vill not bring aboard anyzing that ve can zell to you. Nyne wine, nyne alcohol nyne potato chips unt nyne cameras. Ve vill zupply all zese at exhorbitant fees. Meters vill now be attached to the vater taps and you will pay per gallon of usage. Zingle zerving Zalt und Pepper shakers vill be zold by your vater who would appreciate a zubstancial tip. Stalag Cruise Lines insists that you vill have a goot time.
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Totally fed up subsidising people on ships that can’t afford to be there and nickel and dime through buying cheaper on shore, and then have the arrogance to expect to present it to the waiter at dinner that night to open for their meal, and as if it should mean 'nothing' to the line.

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There are more reasons to bring on your own wine other then being cheap. Being so close to Napa and Lodi I have a lot of choice wines at my fingertips. This selection is not available on the ship, so I bring my own wine. It's better quality wine pure and simple. The ship charges me a corkage fee, so they can open the bottle it is a little silly. Carnival allows one bottle per person and the corkage fee is only charged in the dining room. How much of a revenue boost is it really? I doubt it's worth the negative feelings this "fee" causes.
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Velcome to Stalag Cruise Lines. You vill have a goot time but you vill not bring aboard anyzing that ve can zell to you. Nyne wine, nyne alcohol nyne potato chips unt nyne cameras. Ve vill zupply all zese at exhorbitant fees. Meters vill now be attached to the vater taps and you will pay per gallon of usage. Zingle zerving Zalt und Pepper shakers vill be zold by your vater who would appreciate a zubstancial tip. Stalag Cruise Lines insists that you vill have a goot time.
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***edited to remove personal comments****

I appreciated in scentiment, but you are missing the basic point, cheap cruise, soke want to do everything cheap, including taking our own booze on board, smuggle

This is not about how you or I react, this is about people that want it cheap cheap cheap,,,and dont put their hands up to the line, they dont pay that extra for the taking onboard extra, simple.

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I appreciated in scentiment, but you are missing the basic point, cheap cruise, soke want to do everything cheap, including taking our own booze on board, smuggle

This is not about how you or I react, this is about people that want it cheap cheap cheap,,,and dont put their hands up to the line, they dont pay that extra for the taking onboard extra, simple.

Declair it, pay for it
You seem confused. This thread is about corkage fees that cruiselines charges when you bring a bottle of wine on board and drink it in the dining room. It used to be if the person didn't want to pay the corkage fee they could drink the wine in thier cabin. The OP was surprised that NCL changed this policy and charged her a corkage fee just for bring the wine on board. This is new and I know that Carnival still has the old policy they only charge the corkage fee if the wine in drank in the supper club or dining room.

What you are talking about is people sneaking booze on board which is in violation of the ticket contract of most cruiselines including NCL and Carnival. That is a whole different gripe and has nothing to do with wine and corkage fees. Although it would make a great topic for a new gripe.
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Eh, not confused. I appreciate when someone puts up their hand and says I will take the 'ship' tax on this, call it tax or corkage for the restaurant.

But to quote the poster "Now, I don't mind paying this fee in the restaurant, but when you want a glass of wine in your room and you are doing the uncorking? "

That is the scenario I am talking about, the amazement that if you bring booze on board a ship, it denies them potential income, and people question the policy,,why!

How many bucks per day would be lost to the line if everyone went ashore, and brought their own booze back for 'cabin consumption' only?

If that became the trend or norm, drink cheaper in your own cabin with your own booze...how much would have to be added to the price of the normal cruise to balance the ships books in reduced bar sales,,,so again not confused.

You are confused, if you dont get bringing non ship purchased booze onboard as a business problem or something that has repercussions in cruise prices etc, oh well

But, innocent intentions do not make cheap cabins and at the same time business profit, you have to be real about these things, they sell it cheap and they only want you to drink their booze either in the dining room or in your cabin to make up for the cabin price
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Eh, not confused. I appreciate when someone puts up their hand and says I will take the 'ship' tax on this, call it tax or corkage for the restaurant.

But to quote the poster "Now, I don't mind paying this fee in the restaurant, but when you want a glass of wine in your room and you are doing the uncorking? "

That is the scenario I am talking about, the amazement that if you bring booze on board a ship, it denies them potential income, and people question the policy,,why!

How many bucks per day would be lost to the line if everyone went ashore, and brought their own booze back for 'cabin consumption' only?

If that became the trend or norm, drink cheaper in your own cabin with your own booze...how much would have to be added to the price of the normal cruise to balance the ships books in reduced bar sales,,,so again not confused.

You are confused, if you dont get bringing non ship purchased booze onboard as a business problem or something that has repercussions in cruise prices etc, oh well It's the ship policy to allow one bottle of wine per person over 21 so yes you are confused I still purchase booze (rum, tequilia, vodka) from the ship. If the line is losing that much money they will end this policy. Right now I'm not in violation of the ticket contract. If I sneak booze on board I'm in violation of my ticket contract that is a different issue.
But, innocent intentions do not make cheap cabins and at the same time business profit, you have to be real about these things, they sell it cheap and they only want you to drink their booze either in the dining room or in your cabin to make up for the cabin price
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Exactly. We were in violation of nothing, zero, nada. Thank you.
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Our favorite cruise line likes you to bring wine onboard for in room consumption. You can bring and hard liquor on board too. After all, the more you drink of your own booze, the less that you will drink of the ship's. It sure is nice sailing on an all inclusive cruiseline where you never have to smuggle to get your favorite beverage onboard.
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I'm surprised they make exceptions for wine as opposed to other alcohol...Maybe it's soley because they can collect the corking fee. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy wine too and some have a hard time accepting this but wine really is just booze. It always amazed me in California, winery owners were looked at like some kind of Gods or something...In truth, they are just glorified, more wealthy farmers...It's just a fancier form of agriculture even though none of them are the ones getting their hands dirty, trust me!

In California (at least San Fran' bay area), it is perfectly acceptable to bring your own wine to a restaurant. They will do the corking for you and the way I always avoided the fee was to tell the wait person to make sure and bring themselves a glass back to the table and try the wine with us. I never once got charged and they really enjoy sampling it. I understand this isn't how it's done in most states though and they are more restrictive...Especially true on crusie ships it sounds like.
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I'm surprised they make exceptions for wine as opposed to other alcohol...Maybe it's soley because they can collect the corking fee. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy wine too and some have a hard time accepting this but wine really is just booze. It always amazed me in California, winery owners were looked at like some kind of Gods or something...In truth, they are just glorified, more wealthy farmers...It's just a fancier form of agriculture even though none of them are the ones getting their hands dirty, trust me!
This I can explain. The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 or the Judgment of Paris is what bring California wines to the glorified state they currently enjoy. The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 was a wine competition organized in Paris on 24 May 1976 by Steven Spurrier. Blind tasting was performed so that none of the judges knew the identity of what was being tasted.

The Californian wines won French judges just like them better.
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Okay katlady I will go with your expertise on this, and it could have a bearing on which line or ship I sail on next as it sounds a great deal.

Are you saying as over 21 I can take or buy booze bought ashore and take it on ship on all lines to drink?

This is an open thread regarding lines and ships policy, so when you quote

"It's the ship policy to allow one bottle of wine per person over 21"

Are you saying thats on all lines, if so amazed and a major change of policy for a lot of them I have been on. As I have seen all booze confiscated when boarding ship, to be returned only when you leave said ship. I cant be the only person to have seen this on numerous occassions and lines, oh and if my memory serves me right, I can quote Cunard and NCL to start with.

A lot of newbies read this board for advice, so could you clarify the lines and ships this practice is seen as acceptable on?
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[i](f) Except as noted below, Guests are prohibited from bringing alcohol on Carnival’s vessels for on board consumption. However, at the beginning of the cruise during embarkation day only, guests 21 years and older may bring one bottle of wine or champagne per person on board. A $10 corkage fee per bottle will be charged should guests wish to consume this wine/champagne in the dining room, or a $14 corkage fee per bottle if consumed in the Supper Club. All alcohol, additional quantities of wine/champagne and excessive non-alcoholic beverages will be confiscated and discarded without compensation.
I have quoted directly from Carnival's website and I have attached the link. I know that Royal Carribean does not have this policy. Davyid please note this is Carnival and it's only WINE OR CHAMPAGNE not all booze. However, you can buy bottles of booze per cruise only from Carnival's Bon Voyage Department to be delievered to your room for your personal use. The charge is between $40-$60 depending on the type of booze.
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Okay katlady I will go with your expertise on this, and it could have a bearing on which line or ship I sail on next as it sounds a great deal.

Are you saying as over 21 I can take or buy booze bought ashore and take it on ship on all lines to drink?

This is an open thread regarding lines and ships policy, so when you quote

"It's the ship policy to allow one bottle of wine per person over 21"

Are you saying thats on all lines, if so amazed and a major change of policy for a lot of them I have been on. As I have seen all booze confiscated when boarding ship, to be returned only when you leave said ship. I cant be the only person to have seen this on numerous occassions and lines, oh and if my memory serves me right, I can quote Cunard and NCL to start with.

A lot of newbies read this board for advice, so could you clarify the lines and ships this practice is seen as acceptable on?
Okay here is an article written by Paul Motter 9/7/07. There are quite a few cruiselines that allow a bottle of wine to be taken on board. I hope this clears up your confusion. Please remember this is only wine and champagne only not hard liquor or beer. This could be why you saw booze being confiscated when boarding the ship. To all the newbies reading this please consult you cruise line for the current policies as they are subject to change and are different from cruise line to cruise line.
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Here is a link to another article about bring wine on board. http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/05/...carry-on-wine/This article also explains why people bring wine on board. What would you do if there was only one brand of cigarettes on board and you hated that brand? Would you go 7 days without a smoke? What if the cruise line charged you a smoking fee of$15 per pack of cigarettes, because you didn't buy the cigarettes at the ship's store? Wouldn't you want to post a gripe about it? Or would you quietly accept this change in policy?
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This I can explain. The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 or the Judgment of Paris is what bring California wines to the glorified state they currently enjoy. The Paris Wine Tasting of 1976 was a wine competition organized in Paris on 24 May 1976 by Steven Spurrier. Blind tasting was performed so that none of the judges knew the identity of what was being tasted.

The Californian wines won French judges just like them better.
Here is a link to the original Times article from 1976. http://www.montelena.com/our_winery/paris.html
This is my favorite part:

Gallic Gems. As they swirled, sniffed, sipped and spat, some judges were instantly able to separate an imported upstart from an aristocrat. More often, the panel was confused. “Ah, back to France!” exclaimed Oliver after sipping a 1972 Chardonnay from the Napa Valley. “That is definitely California. It has no nose,” said another judge – after downing a Batard Montrachet ’73. Other comments included such Gallic gems as “this is nervous and agreeable,” “a good nose, but not too much in the mouth,” and “this soars out of the ordinary.”
Katlady, that winning Stag's Leap was a wonderful wine. It was a great Cabernet and drinkable though young. It only cost around $5. In the years since, I have regretted not stocking up on that wine. Now, Stag's Leap is not affordable given its well deserved reputation.
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Why the discrimination? The permissible wine is alcohol, running at about 12% alcohol. But beer at 4-5% may not be taken aboard and of course spirits at 40% alcohol are verboten. To some of us this mystique of wine falls very close to that of vinegar. Either alcohol or no alcohol.
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