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Ron n Jon November 2nd, 2008 01:34 PM

Plastic Furniture
 
How say we to Wal-Mart furniture? Noticed how more and more plastic furniture is being introduced to the cruise industry replacing the traditional teak? It's getting so that now, in some areas, being aboard is like sitting on a trailer patio. Even the chez lounge is now the moulded flip trap that we wouldn't have at home. Feather weight balcony furniture blowing about during the night. It's unquestionably cheaper, and cheap is the word, but in the long run the joys of cruising will become MacDonald like and that is something we can do without.

misguidedangel November 2nd, 2008 01:55 PM

FYI-Carnival is getting rid of plastic deck chairs. The chaise loungers are likely here to stay and will all be replaced en mass ship by ship. The plastic furniture is cheap, and is also a hazard if there is a fire, therefore the Triumph, Conquest, and Liberty all have metal/canvas (and or other fabric/wicker) chairs on the Lido deck and balconies. I can't speak for all other ships in Carnival or other cruise lines, but hopefully one by one each ship will change. The Miracle has nice wood deck chairs (from looking back at pics from 2007).

I am not fan of rubbermaid plastic chairs, so I agree with you when the cruise lines keep them in favour of better deck chairs. The new chairs are not light, they are very sturdy. I can't comment on the quality of chaise lounges as I can't sit in a lounge chair for longer than 15 minutes before realized I have something better to do than fry my skin, which burns crisp in under one hour with sunblock 45 on.....

DayvidB November 2nd, 2008 02:56 PM

Agreed, but a sad reflection of the times, you get what you pay for. Not all lines are like that

Ron n Jon November 2nd, 2008 04:37 PM

Well good for Carnival, this is good news. Anything but that white polywhatever. Hadn't thought about the fire hazard but that is an excellent point. Hope the transition to more sensible and durable furniture will spread like wildfire through the industry.

And we agree that the 12 day $495. cruise mentality is to blame.

katlady November 2nd, 2008 06:56 PM

Won't cheap plastic furniture fall apart faster? Is it truly more cost effective to constantly replace cheapo plastic furniture or to spend a few more bucks for something that will last a while.

green_rd November 3rd, 2008 01:10 PM

The cheap plastic furniture is also lighter (hence the blowing around at ngiht). Lighter furniture means better fuel efficiency, means better cost containment. So think the suits.

hombre November 3rd, 2008 03:36 PM

has anyone given a nod to ecology here? teak wood is very slow growing, its habitat is dwindling, it is expensive, and to decimate it is a natural disaster. i don't like cheap plastic either, but 'heavy metal' is ok with me.

katlady November 3rd, 2008 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hombre
has anyone given a nod to ecology here? teak wood is very slow growing, its habitat is dwindling, it is expensive, and to decimate it is a natural disaster. i don't like cheap plastic either, but 'heavy metal' is ok with me.

Okay I will take bamboo tables and chairs then. It's better to ecology then tweak and nice then plastic. :D Won't this look nicer on a cruise ship?
[img]http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020pqvg9JFbMAFpejzbkF/SIG=12t1k90bk/EXP=1225854954/**http%3A//www.bambooworld.com/images/bamboo%2520table%2520and%2520chairs.jpg[/img]

Paul Motter November 5th, 2008 12:51 AM

Most of the ships are opting for the new, more durable plastic that looks like wicker. They also have thick cushy cushions. Deck chairs are getting better! You can still get teak on Holland America and Cunard, though.

Mean Dean November 8th, 2008 02:45 AM

As a woodworker, I can tell you that teak is plentiful -- you just need to know where to find it. The most available and the most environmentally friendly teak is plantation-grown. When trees are harvested, new ones are planted in their places.

DayvidB November 8th, 2008 01:45 PM

Agreed, when it is harvested through plantations, it is a great resource. An example is Oregon and how they deal with tree plantations, ie cut, burn and plant every 60 years or so and in an organised way, gives them an economy,,,and a beautiful product. One I can lay on, or build a home with.

Don’t cut the resource….if you don’t replant :cry:

Ron n Jon December 17th, 2008 10:24 AM

Just back from Royal Princess btob Ecuador and are happy to report that teak could be seen everywhere, on promenade deck and on the main pool deck. We took a peek at a brass label on one of the many two-piece teak deck chairs found on promenade. It read "Queen Elizabeth". Now that's what we call recycling.

susierphillips December 17th, 2008 01:48 PM

The teak deck loungers on Holland are fantastic. Anyone know where I can buy some??

Rick December 17th, 2008 07:03 PM

Re: Plastic Furniture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron n Jon
How say we to Wal-Mart furniture? Noticed how more and more plastic furniture is being introduced to the cruise industry replacing the traditional teak? It's getting so that now, in some areas, being aboard is like sitting on a trailer patio. Even the chez lounge is now the moulded flip trap that we wouldn't have at home. Feather weight balcony furniture blowing about during the night. It's unquestionably cheaper, and cheap is the word, but in the long run the joys of cruising will become MacDonald like and that is something we can do without.

What is your problem with Walmart, Trailer patio's and McDonalds (Billions sold)?

Mean Dean December 18th, 2008 11:34 PM

Susie,

Those teak deck loungers are usually over $1000 each......

My next outdoor furniture project is interestingly enough, teak deck loungers. I have Norm Abram's New Yankee Workshop DVD, and have watched it a few times, and the loungers don't look super difficult to build. I need to locate the correct sizes of teak lumber and I'm all set.

I'll begin work on them this spring when the weather warms up, and I'll post photos of them when they're finished!

katlady December 19th, 2008 10:14 AM

Lots of websites for the chairs if you put in teak steamer chairs. They are quite nice. :D
http://graphics.samsclub.com/images/...9419109_L4.jpg

DayvidB December 19th, 2008 01:49 PM

And your view on conservation was :shock: , apart from they look nice

katlady December 19th, 2008 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DayvidB
And your view on conservation was :shock: , apart from they look nice

Well they look nice and are much better the plastic chairs. Oh; also since there are many different types of teak chair I thought I would put up a picture of the one Mean Dean is talking about. I know the chair he is referring to because of my superpower. ssshh don't tell anyone my secret ID as Katlady. :wink:

DayvidB December 19th, 2008 02:30 PM

Okay, thats as much as I expected, well done you for the nice pictures on this topic. Gotta go, been swimming here and just reached the shallow end of the pool ........

Mean Dean December 22nd, 2008 02:06 AM

You know, David B. Good my friend, I haven’t decided whether you piss me off or make me laugh…..

Do you stir the pot just because you like to stir, or because you have real concerns?

And while I’m thinking of it, the puppy avatar doesn’t really suit you – your James Bond avatar was much better.

So let’s have at it…….

Plantation-grown teak is a sustainable, Earth-friendly, economic-friendly natural resource. Plantation-grown teak trees are planted on farms, grown to maturity, and harvested. In their place new trees are planted, and the cycle continues. Teak wood is a remarkably durable wood species, resistant to all forms of attack. Teak has a remarkably high silica content, and is extremely oily for a hardwood.

Furniture crafted from teak wood is generational……..

Teak furniture crafted today will be enjoyed by my children. And their children. And their children………

Teak wood is also enjoyed by the United States Navy. All United States Navy large-caliber warships sail with teak decks, fore and aft.

And should you decide to debate me on United States Navy history, do so at your peril. For I will win, and you will lose.

Ron n Jon December 22nd, 2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mean Dean
Plantation-grown teak is a sustainable, Earth-friendly, economic-friendly natural resource. Plantation-grown teak trees are planted on farms, grown to maturity, and harvested. In their place new trees are planted, and the cycle continues. Teak wood is a remarkably durable wood species, resistant to all forms of attack. Teak has a remarkably high silica content, and is extremely oily for a hardwood.
Furniture crafted from teak wood is generational……..
Teak furniture crafted today will be enjoyed by my children. And their children. And their children……….

It is for this reason we have two such teak lounge chairs on our home deck. Their comfort brings back all our wonderful sea travel memories. Before purchase however we did verify that the supply of teak in their making was from Plantation-grown trees. We purchased them on line in the late summer season and acquired them for only one hundred dollars (Canada) each. Lucky us.

katlady December 22nd, 2008 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mean Dean
You know, David B. Good my friend, I haven’t decided whether you piss me off or make me laugh…..

Do you stir the pot just because you like to stir, or because you have real concerns?

And while I’m thinking of it, the puppy avatar doesn’t really suit you – your James Bond avatar was much better.

So let’s have at it…….

Plantation-grown teak is a sustainable, Earth-friendly, economic-friendly natural resource. Plantation-grown teak trees are planted on farms, grown to maturity, and harvested. In their place new trees are planted, and the cycle continues. Teak wood is a remarkably durable wood species, resistant to all forms of attack. Teak has a remarkably high silica content, and is extremely oily for a hardwood.

Furniture crafted from teak wood is generational……..

Teak furniture crafted today will be enjoyed by my children. And their children. And their children………

Teak wood is also enjoyed by the United States Navy. All United States Navy large-caliber warships sail with teak decks, fore and aft.

And should you decide to debate me on United States Navy history, do so at your peril. For I will win, and you will lose.

I just think it's pretty.
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