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Old December 19th, 2014, 04:50 PM
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Default Cuba, Who's in First?

I think there is going to be a mega race to see who can be the first to cruise into Cuba....the bragging rights alone, and the publicity, would be worth $$$$


I think we should have a contest to see who and when gets in first...I say Carnival, and they will cruise into port in the late fall of 2015..Want to spend Christmas in Havana?

Your cruise line and time frame?


Another point..would you want to be one of the first in, or wait till the city infrastructure is more prepared to handle the crowds...

Do you think Jamaica is in jeopardy of dropping off cruise itineraries?
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I do think Jamaica will loose out some, when Cuba opens up....They have had a long time to clean up their act and I've never seen much improvement....I think all the major lines will eventually have stops in Cuba, I'll bet Royal Caribbean will be there as quick as possible too...Only time will tell and how long it will take to be able to handle cruise ships...
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Cruise ships already go to Cuba, but they are the brands that primarily serve the European market mostly with the older ships the mainstream cruise lines have retired such as Thompson, Pullmantur, etc.

The bigger issue will be the wrangling over the current embargo law and various rules and procedures about ships from the U.S. going to Cuba. The politics may indeed kill some of all of this. Obviously I hope not, but the Cuba issue has now been served up as a hot button for the 2016 Presidential campaign.
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Company from Canada also goes using a Louis lines ship
You can board in Jamacia or Havana
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I hope that common sense prevails and that the politicians don't kill our chance to finally visit Cuba.

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I don't think we'll see any real movement until 2016 in not later.

People do go to Cuba and there's an agency that takes about 10,000 visitors there every year, It's a group thing and you must stay with the group.

As far as a vacation destination I don't think it's going to come real soon I think people are jumping the gun on this, but I can see either Carnival or Royal leading the pack.
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I don't think we'll see any real movement until 2016 in not later.

People do go to Cuba and there's an agency that takes about 10,000 visitors there every year, It's a group thing and you must stay with the group.

As far as a vacation destination I don't think it's going to come real soon I think people are jumping the gun on this, but I can see either Carnival or Royal leading the pack.
That is just for US citizens other Countries have been vactioning there for yrs

If the embargo is lifted they will be able to get better food supplies along with other things much need there
If the big ships are going to go they need some better docking facilites
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Yes I'm aware of of the restrictions for American citizens , I was just pointing out that some Americans can and do go to Cuba althought "we're not allowed "
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I wonder how many Americans who buy Cuban cigars in other countries realize they are still breaking the law? The U.S. embargo law makes it illegal to purchase Cuban products everywhere, although obviously it is not enforced. But strictly speaking, if I buy a Cuban cigar in Grand Cayman, as a U.S. citizen I have violated a federal law. This is the level of silliness that exists.
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Dave,
The silliness goes even further.
My company's ships are mostly flagged Bahamas.
Some of our ships call at US ports.
My ship is currently sailing in China.
If I tried to sell a Cuban Cigar to a European passenger on my Bahamas flagged ship in Asia, my company would get a US$1 Million fine from the US Government.
The US Government claims jurisdiction over my ship because some of our sister ships call at US ports and we sell cruise tickets to Americans in the USA.
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We all know some ships and other counties can visit Cuba, but, for us this is a NEW idea...A FB friend who lives in the BVI, must overnight in another port before going over, which I find interesting..I've gotten emails and snail mail for years regarding educational and religous group tours for Cuba..Everything I have seen about these types of tours, are quite regimented,and you see what the goverment wants you to see, with no ability to roam on your own....

One thing I really would absolutely hate to see, if all this does move forward, is walking off the ship and seeing a MacDonalds or Dunkin Donuts....No Americanization of Cuba, puleeze!!

In todays paper, there was an artlicle about how difficult is is to maintain the vintage cars, and, how they have been passed down through the generations. Many are hoping to be able to soon buy newer U.S. cars...
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I wonder how some people will adjust to being Americanized if it goes that far.
I sometimes believe we need to go back in time.

Trip.... Yes all the groups that do go have to stick with whats told to them, no free time at all.
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My guess is that Cuba will be another Jamaica. Communists arenít any good at public relations, because they have never had to be concerned about it.
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Cruise ships already go to Cuba, but they are the brands that primarily serve the European market mostly with the older ships the mainstream cruise lines have retired such as Thompson, Pullmantur, etc.

The bigger issue will be the wrangling over the current embargo law and various rules and procedures about ships from the U.S. going to Cuba. The politics may indeed kill some of all of this. Obviously I hope not, but the Cuba issue has now been served up as a hot button for the 2016 Presidential campaign.
Obama will want to sweep the 7 billion dollars in claims under the carpet of
good diplomatic relations with Cuba. The Congress and all of those investors who lost money wouldn't, nor will those lawyers who represent them.

Of course the Cubans may decide to grab a multi-million dollar cruise ship for alledged US transgressions, which might make the cruise companies think twice.
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Obama will want to sweep the 7 billion dollars in claims under the carpet of
good diplomatic relations with Cuba. The Congress and all of those investors who lost money wouldn't, nor will those lawyers who represent them.

Of course the Cubans may decide to grab a multi-million dollar cruise ship for alledged US transgressions, which might make the cruise companies think twice.
When ships depart US ports they have those Coast Guard boats escorting them.
The question is when coming into Cuban port will the ships have the same type of security?
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This started out as a cruising / traveling issue.


Now it's changed to a political issue. And to make matters worse some hate has crept in. .

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We all know some ships and other counties can visit Cuba, but, for us this is a NEW idea...A FB friend who lives in the BVI, must overnight in another port before going over, which I find interesting.
That is interesting since UK citizens can fly direct to Cuba from the UK
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That is interesting since UK citizens can fly direct to Cuba from the UK
I understand health insurance is mandatory(required by Cuba). Is this true. What does British government require?
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I understand health insurance is mandatory(required by Cuba). Is this true. What does British government require?
I know for Canadians travelling to Cuba we must show proof of health ins

You must present proof of health insurance in order to enter the country. Upon arrival, travellers may be required to present an insurance policy, insurance certificate or medical assistance card valid for the period of their stay in Cuba. Those who do not have proof of insurance coverage may be required to obtain health insurance from a Cuban insurance company when they arrive.
Temporary residents also have to hold valid health insurance policies.
Although proof of Canadian provincial health insurance is sufficient for visitors to enter Cuba, your provincial plan may cover only part of the costs and will not pay the bill up-front, as required. It is therefore recommended that you purchase supplemental health insurance. Note that some private insurers also require the traveller to pay costs up-front and be reimbursed later. Cuban authorities will not allow anyone with outstanding medical bills to leave the country.
All health insurance policies are recognized, except those issued by U.S. insurance companies, as they cannot provide coverage in Cuba.
For additional details on this requirement, please consult the Embassy of Cuba in Canada.
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I know for Canadians travelling to Cuba we must show proof of health ins

You must present proof of health insurance in order to enter the country. Upon arrival, travellers may be required to present an insurance policy, insurance certificate or medical assistance card valid for the period of their stay in Cuba. Those who do not have proof of insurance coverage may be required to obtain health insurance from a Cuban insurance company when they arrive.
Temporary residents also have to hold valid health insurance policies.
Although proof of Canadian provincial health insurance is sufficient for visitors to enter Cuba, your provincial plan may cover only part of the costs and will not pay the bill up-front, as required. It is therefore recommended that you purchase supplemental health insurance. Note that some private insurers also require the traveller to pay costs up-front and be reimbursed later. Cuban authorities will not allow anyone with outstanding medical bills to leave the country.
All health insurance policies are recognized, except those issued by U.S. insurance companies, as they cannot provide coverage in Cuba.
For additional details on this requirement, please consult the Embassy of Cuba in Canada.
Great detailed report so it seems that cruisers will have to buy extra insurance. Very interesting.

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Great detailed report so it seems that cruisers will have to buy extra insurance. Very interesting.
We usually buy out of Province insurance when we travel
Some Canadians will even buy medical insurance for short trips across the border
Medical costs in the USA are a lot higher than we pay in our own Province

I am sure the State/Country insurance works the same in the USA ??

Not sure how other Countries deal with travellers who become ill & need medical care outside their Country but that is a whole other subject
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