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Default One Dead and still missing on Carnival Star

One dead now and more missing still. People were at the muster stations fore 7 hours too. A roll call was 2 hours...

Say a prayer for all ther souls now.


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This morning at approximately 3:10 am local time, as Star Princess was en route from Grand Cayman to Montego Bay, a fire broke out in the passenger accommodations, and spread to adjacent cabins. Passengers were immediately notified of the fire using the public address system and requested to report to their muster stations. We are currently completing a full passenger check to account for all passengers and crew.
The fire is now out, however there is still residual smoke throughout the affected area. The cause of the fire at this time is unknown.

The ship is carrying a total of 2,690 passengers and 1,123 crew members.

A full damage assessment is being carried out at this point.

Authorities were immediately contacted regarding the incident and we continue to work closely with all relevant parties.

Star Princess sailed from Fort Lauderdale on March 19 on a western Caribbean itinerary with calls at Cozumel, Grand Cayman, Montego Bay and Princess Cays.

A special number has been set up for inquiries from immediate family of passengers who are currently onboard: 1-800-693-7222.
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That is a Princess ship.

Although owned by Carnival, Princess Cruise Lines is it's own entity in the vast Carnival Corporation.
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WOW..that's terrible. How did the fire start ?Was smoking in the room a possibility ?
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According to an AP report I just read, a cigarette is the suspected cause of the cabin fire. What a shame,,,and what a tradegy!
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According to an AP report I just read, a cigarette is the suspected cause of the cabin fire. What a shame,,,and what a tradegy!
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Sure was Ken..Makes a cse for non smoking doesn't it ?..I mean people are drinking and having a good. Maybe drinking to much and passing out with a lit cigarette. Something to think about.
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Initial reports on incident root causes are usually 99% WRONG.

“We haven’t found out yet where the fire in the ship started or why it started,? Newsome said.
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Are there no sprinler systems on these ships?
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Are there no sprinler systems on these ships?
Yea, I was just about to ask that question. Does anyone know if there are sprinklers aboard ?
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Sprinklers are on the ship and in all cabins.
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It is now being reported that they beleive the cause of the fire was a cigarette on a balcony of a cabin.
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holy cow.....what an awful picture. I can't imagine what everyone was going through. It's comforting to know that the crew handled everything so calmly and efficiently. If they narrow it down to the cabin where it started, could the cruise line press charges against the passenger?
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That is some picture, looks like some extensive damage
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all Passengers are accounted for, there was death do to a heart attack.
rumor has it that it was a cig. on a balcony (just a rumor still not confermed) The origin and cause of the fire is still unknown.
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I would bet some serious money that it was a cigarette. It is now the American custom that smokers can dump them anywhere without penalty. I for one am so sick of watching ignorant smokers fling them out of their smelly cars onto the street and my windshield. Whatever you do, don't look at the ground while stopped at an intersection. There will be piles of smokers litter on the ground. When did it become OK for smokers to disrespect the rest of us so much? There ought to be a law...one that would be enforced I mean...use your ashtray or get a ticket.....

I say again that I bet it was some idiot that threw a lit cig off a balcony or passed out holding one.


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WOW !!!

My heart goes out to those that lost their family members.


I think they should ban smoking on the ship in all rooms, I know I don't appreciate being around a smoker. I guess they can't distinguish floors for smoking like hotels.

I don't like sitting or standing near people smoking. It stinks :evil:
Now besides second hand smoke, they could cause people to lose their lives in fires. Their vacation dream went up in smoke now, and many passengers that were waiting for their forthcoming vacations.

I hope everyone will think twice before lighting up their next smoke, when they are on their cruise, or wherever they may be.
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I am a smoker and i am not an idiot or ignorant.
I do not smoke in my home, hotels or stateroom,
i do not smoke around people that do not smoke unless they are in the smoking section,
I do not throw my cigarette butts out the car window, as a matter of fact, i don't even smoke in my car.
Where i live you will get a $500 fine for throwing a cig. out out car window.
Sure there are smokers the are idiots and are rude about it.
would it have been ok if the fire would have started because someone had a lit candle or left the iron on?
would you ream them because they are idiots for wanting pressed clothes?
I am more than sure the person who did this will be haunted by it forever.
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Great point caribbean dreams, lets keep this in perspective. There is no proof YET that it was caused by a cig. Lets just wait and see what happens before forming a strong opinion.
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[quote="caribbean dreams"]I am a smoker and i am not an idiot or ignorant. Nobody said YOU were.
I do not smoke in my home, hotels or stateroom, Should we thank you for that? Do you make non smokers hold their breath getting past you at the entrance to buildings? i do not smoke around people that do not smoke unless they are in the smoking section, Thanks again?
I do not throw my cigarette butts out the car window, as a matter of fact, i don't even smoke in my car. The person that ends up with it after you will thank you.Where i live you will get a $500 fine for throwing a cig. out out car window. Seems appropriate. Do they enforce it? I guess we would have to inspect the ground at intersections to find out.....
Sure there are smokers the are idiots and are rude about it. Yep
would it have been ok if the fire would have started because someone had a lit candle or left the iron on? Ridiculous question.
would you ream them because they are idiots for wanting pressed clothes? No I would ream them out for being stupid.
I am more than sure the person who did this will be haunted by it forever. Not as much as the family of the poor man that died.[/quote]



Instead of taking it personally you should think a little more carefully about what I said. Every bit of it is true(except my guess that it was a cig).

Oh and do I think that smoking in general is stupid? Of course I do. Better question......Do YOU?
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We can all speculate as to what happened but it's just that--- speculation at this point. I really can't see how a cigarette would cause that much damage on a balcony. After all, what is there on a balcony to burn like that apparently did? There are sprinklers in all the newer ships in all the cabins so it's hard to figure.

People do some very dumb things. How many times do you see where someone is talking about taking power strips so they can plug in upteen different appliances in their cabins? Talking about taking irons, etc. and my all time favorite --- scented candles -- as one poster once put it---
" to set the mood ". The fire may have started from none of the above-- I don't know. But one thing we all need to remember and that is that fire is indeed an enormous danger to any ship at sea and we really don't need to add to the risk by forgetting our common sense.

Hopefully the fire investigators will come up with the cause soon.
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Reviewing news stories it is the Princess Star ship out of Ft. Lauderdale.
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........ It is now the American custom that smokers can dump them anywhere without penalty.

........ There ought to be a law...one that would be enforced I mean...use your ashtray or get a ticket......
Our city, as well as MANY others, do have such laws. Anyone caught tossing a cigarette (lit or not) out a car window is fined $500. And it IS enforced. My BIL is remitting his $500 check to the city today.
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This is an awful tragedy. I fill for the ones who were injured and the family of the deceased. If smoking was the root cause of this, hopefully Princess (and the rest of the Carnival Group) will put a no smoking policy in place for all staterooms and balconys. Allowing smoking in staterooms and on balconys is another accident waiting to happen.
Oceania Cruises told CruiseMates that the company immediately moved to a policy of "zero tolerance" of smoking in areas of their ships, including cabins and balconies. While previously passengers have been given several polite warnings if caught smoking in cabins and on balconies, they will be immediately put off the ship if caught. The cruise line is also considering imposing fines.
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I read that the reason sprinklers didn't work is because the sprinklers are in the rooms and the fire was started outside.
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........ It is now the American custom that smokers can dump them anywhere without penalty.

........ There ought to be a law...one that would be enforced I mean...use your ashtray or get a ticket......
Our city, as well as MANY others, do have such laws. Anyone caught tossing a cigarette (lit or not) out a car window is fined $500. And it IS enforced. My BIL is remitting his $500 check to the city today.
That is wonderful. I wish I could tell you that Michigan was as current in our thinking as you are. It is an awful problem here.

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Oceania Cruises told CruiseMates that the company immediately moved to a policy of "zero tolerance" of smoking in areas of their ships, including cabins and balconies. While previously passengers have been given several polite warnings if caught smoking in cabins and on balconies, they will be immediately put off the ship if caught. The cruise line is also considering imposing fines.


Wow would that be great. No more cig butts to step over...no more accidental burns to innocent children....

Fine the crap out them. Smoke in your homes and on your property I say. Let the rest of us not breath second hand smoke.

I guess you could say the rant continued..............
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I am adding my voice ot the thought of smokers going unpunished by littering with their butts. It IS against the law and IS enforced when onviewed. It is the same with any offense against humanity, it is only enforced when seen.
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I am adding my voice ot the thought of smokers going unpunished by littering with their butts. It IS against the law and IS enforced when onviewed. It is the same with any offense against humanity, it is only enforced when seen.
Trust me....it is NOT ENFORCED. I watch people do it every day. I commute 32 miles to work on surface streets. AT evry red light ignorant people do it. EVERY RED LIGHT! It is not tlike they try to hide it. They just don't care what they do to others or what we think of them. They certainly don't worry of being fined......

Throwing them out of their windows....

Forcing the rest of us (including children) to hold our breath exiting and entering buildings......

Don't even get me started on what it costs our economy when we ALL pay for the inevitable cancers and breathing problems.......


That is it. I am done...........

I promise.

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