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Old December 30th, 2010, 05:48 PM
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After many cruises and several on Carnival within the past 10-15 years, we still have the attitude that any cruise is a good cruise. We enjoyed celebrating the holidays aboard the Miracle. The staff was exceptional - each and every staff member went above and beyond, despite how hard it must have been for them being away from home for the holidays. Amazing job for the hard work each and every day by every single crew member aboard. The food was excellent as well - from the deli, to the dining room, to the sushi bar - great presentation and quality.

With that being said, the cutbacks in the entertainment department where beyond noticeable. There is a limit as to how much things can be cutback, and Carnival has far crossed and exceeded that limit to the point where it severely affected the quality of the cruise, the level of enthusiasm throughout the ship, and our (any many cruisers) overall enjoyment.

Unfortunately, we were beyond disappointed with the entertainment. Out of all cruises, the entertainment was beyond the worst. The cutbacks reflect in the entertainment department, and it is simply attributed to spending less... a lot less, orders from headquarters in Miami to the ships. We noticed some declines last year in the Dream and Valor, and we were hoping it would not decline any more. I understand some cutbacks, but there is a limit as to how much Carnival can and should do it without it affecting the cruise, and Carnival has far crossed that limit in their cutbacks with entertainment to the point where it may be worth a little more money for some quality entertainment that we were used to on Carnival and can still be used to on Royal Caribbean and Norwegian. The singers, dancers, and musicians are all individually very talented. The singers in the shows were great, and the soloists throughout the ship are very talented, but there is just so much that a piano player can do to engage the crowd, liven the atmosphere, and encourage fun and dancing. Soloists is pretty much all to be found on the Miracle, and all that we should come to expect on all Carnival ships in the near future. We have come to enjoy at least one full band in additional to a full Calypso band. In addition, we have come to enjoy several duos, and in the minority, one or two soloists. There was one band, and we were told that if it wasn't for the Ticket to Ride show, Carnival would have gotten rid of the one and only band as they have and are doing on the rest of the ships. No more bands on Carnival. The calypso duo was one of the better duos compared to the other Carnival ships, but there is just so much that a calypso duo can do compared to a full calypso band - and the staff agreed that many people miss the calypso bands as there are differences. These solicits and this one duo played the same songs over and over, cause they have such a limited selection of pre-recorded tracks. No other duos, just 3 piano entertainers / soloists. We used to love the duos AND bands, and music unlimited was great, but we were told that they are all being cut to soloists. Not on other lines though....

There were 3 nights out of 8 without any professional entertainment - opening night, legends, and deck party night - again, one or two nights ok, but 3 nights with nothing is really, really noticeable and pushing it. The comedians - all 3 of them were terrible. Literally not one laugh. If Carnival is going to do Punchliners, let them at least do it right with quality and funny comedians and screen them. The ventriloquist was not funny and many walked out. On a positive note, Gregg at the piano bar was exceptional, as was music unlimited and Tony Ray. But yes, the cutbacks in this department crossed the line, and we were told by staff no bands on other ships - Carnival really needs to reconsider how they budget, cause for a few more thousand dollars per cruise on entertainment, they will not lose loyal cruisers to us.

-Ticket to ride was the only good show all week.
-As stated earlier, the comedians were simply awful. A waste of time, money, and a waste of a concept that could be a great one.
-We saw the magician walking around on the last night, where was he all week? Get rid of them! Even if he did make it to our table, is one trick per table really worth the money? Carnival, pay somone that can entertain a greater number of people, use the money for this waste of an entertainer to pay for the MUCH needed live entertainment, such as an extra band member or two.
-Find a better and funnier juggler and vantriliquist. We've seen quality ones on other Carnival and non-Carnival ships, but not here. No laughs, and noticed many walking out mid-show.
-How about new activities and events. Does it take that much work or brains... it shouldn't. The other lines add varity, but with Carnival, we can recite the schedule, the lines, and the questions. No wonder even the non professional entertainment is so terrible. How about new questions for the marriage show? How about a different legends show, deck party, and opening show. What about new pool games? Maybe contests such as stuff your shirt, swim with fruit between your legs... anything other than the so original hairy chest contest that really was not funny the first time nor the 6th.
-The first night opening show had the same songs as the opening show from the 7 other Carnival cruises. The last night legends show is the same, and it's another cheap way to use the guests to entertain the guests rather than hire professional entertainment. The deck party is another night with no professional entertainment - that's 3 fo 8 nights... one or two, fine... but this is just way too much.
-The deck party... how about the deck event - I wouldn't ever attempt to even try calling it a party. The band played some music. It was not hosted, not hyped up, and so dull. How about funny contests and finding a way to attract and engage more than 75 people who showed up? Chacha slide, electric slide... no wonder everyone who did not show left.
*The lack of live entertainment is pathetic, it really is. I do not want to hear the excuse that there are not enough beds - there absoutely are. There were one enough beds for 5 or 6 full bands. Get rid of the magician. I guarantee Carnival once found a way to have the beds, the other lines do, and they still can. Music Unlimited was the only band. They were phenominal! Great job. We also were told that Carnival tried cutting them, but that they were needed for the Beetles Ticket to Ride Show. Do not expect bands on other ships - at least we were told that these are the orders from the corporate office to generate more revenue. Only soloists to come and replace all bands. CARNIVAL, WE DO NOTICE THESE CUTBACKS. YOU ARE LOSING PAST CRUISERS LIKE US TO THE LINES THAT STILL HAVE BANDS AND QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT. WE REALLY DO NOTICE THOUGH, AND IT REALLY DID USED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Charge 10 dollars more a person for some bands and quality entertainment. Thats 20,000 dollars to pay for the additions. We also miss the calypso band rather than duo, and we also miss hearing music thoughout the ship. It was nice seeing a 10 piece showband, but we were told the other ships are down to 5 or less, and that the Miracle is the only ship left with this large band. It will be gone soon. We noticed the difference, but unfortunately even this will be gone soon. People only danced with Music Unlimited and to the showband. I guess Carnival does not want anyone dancing and enjoying the music. The others were limited in what they could play, based on what pre-recorded tracks they had. Each ship needs at least a full showband, a rock band like Music Unlimited, and a full calypso band. Then in addition, there should be at least two duos, and maybe one or two solosts... but as was stated, only solists is terrible, noticable, and unacceptable. Carnival, many of us noticed this. We love live music with bands. A duo or soloist especially is not a band. They do not engage the crowd.

So the entertainment was a major disappointment. As the week went on, we heard this more and more from first time cruisers, and especially from past guests. Carnival may not notice that the past guests are leaving until we are all cruising with the other lines. Hopefully they will listen and be proactive rather than reactive when it may be too late. The crew were great. Food great as well. We loved the salmon bagels and omlettes. But the entertainment is a major reason for cruising, and these cutbacks really showed and really were completely unexpected and unacceptable.

In conclusion, Carnival needs to screen the comedians. They need to screen for the shows as well. There was a great motown entertainer one night that I forgot to mention, and they holiday show was great. Singers in the show and dancers all very talented. But 3 nights with no shows or entertainment, and the same old questions and games without making them different and changing questions and events up by ship and month or year is really not smart or good. Most importantly, Carnival really needs to bring back the duos and bands (at least one band and calypso band and several duos with minimal soloists and piano players which there were 3 or 4 of). Get rid of the magician that we didn't see, and spend the money on shows and bands that affect us. Hopefully Carnival gets their act together, so we can come back to Carnival after we give Royal a try since they have the bands and quality entertainment. Still open to book Carnival as soon as we read and see improvements and more spending on entertainment, and with the trend continuing to decrease with the elimination of the showband on the Miracle and all bands on other ships it may be awhile.
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One of our moderators, Rollerdonna,and Skymaster a long time Cruisemate
recently back from the Miracle with similar issues...
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Might I suggest you go to John Heald's Blog
and submit a comment . Mark it JOHN PLEASE READ & RESPOND in the subject and atop the letter.

Since CD's are in charge of the entertainment division onboard he would be the one person who can make fleetwide improvement suggestions to the beards at CCL plc.
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Regarding the cut backs, where there anything else you noticed other than the entertainment?
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I have to comment on this thread. I too recently returned from the Miracle and had much the same complaints as you regarding the entertainment, as outlined in my very long review on Chit Chat board.
You actually LIKED Calypso the "pool band"??? There was only 1 guy when we were there, with long dreads and he was absolutely AWFUL. I stayed far far away from him whenever he was on.
Did you have Malcolm Burns as CD? He wasn't much of a CD and we blame him for the poor entertainment staff on board.
This was our 9th Carnival cruise and we most likely won't be going back on Carnival again....

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Wow! I'm sorry to hear Carnival has gone so far down since I cruised a few years ago. Sorry you had such a bad cruise.

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Ya know, I posted awhile back about a friend who had issues on her cruise on Miracle.

I'm sure there are favorable reviews/experiences over the past year for Miracle but it does seem like a pattern is developing. Maybe its the CD, maybe not.

I've been in situations where staff have raised concerns to higher ups only to be rebuffed. Sometimes change cannot be accomplished at the "local" level because it is stifled from above.

Other ships and other lines have similar issues. Its how they address them and if the pax give them another look and come away with a better experience the next time that counts.
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Personally, I don't cruise for the entertainment and don't mind Carnival cutting back there. I'm not aware of any entertainment on the ship directly adding to the bottom line unless you count bingo and art auctions.
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I have to comment on this thread. I too recently returned from the Miracle and had much the same complaints as you regarding the entertainment, as outlined in my very long review on Chit Chat board.
You actually LIKED Calypso the "pool band"??? There was only 1 guy when we were there, with long dreads and he was absolutely AWFUL. I stayed far far away from him whenever he was on.
Did you have Malcolm Burns as CD? He wasn't much of a CD and we blame him for the poor entertainment staff on board.
This was our 9th Carnival cruise and we most likely won't be going back on Carnival again....

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RD.. if you've previously sailed them 8 times, and enjoyed them enough to book your ninth, it might seem a bit rash to say you'll not sail them again because of one "bad" one.

Unless you've decided the Carnival "Fun Ship" atmosphere is not for you any longer.

I had some issues with a Celebrity cruise, my first time with the line. I didn't sail them again for 5 years, and when I did go back I really enjoyed it.

Frankly I don't think ANY of the mass market lines are consistent enough from ship to ship to count on a great cruise each and every time out on them. Perhaps sadly, there's always occassional bumps in the road.
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I would agree to give them another try, except from our other Carnival cruises, we noticed extreme cutbacks on the Dream, and even more severe cutbacks a year later now on the Miracle. We were told that with Gerry Cahill looking solely at the bottom line, we should not expect any more bands - only a duo or two and a couple soloists. We should not expect professional entertainers, and we should not expect many in the show bands. They are really continuing to look at cutting back even further in entertainment - the staff admitted it, they notice it, we do, and there's nothing that can be done since it comes straight from corporate. With them admitting that and that it will get worse, and with it affecting the cruise experience, we will not consider Carnival until they realize that we realize and are upset with the product and cutbacks and fix their mistakes. We just looked at Royal Caribbean cruise compasses, and they still have many bands throughout ships and entertainment every night. That alone makes it worth cruising with them, even if it is a little higher in price.
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except from our other Carnival cruises, we noticed extreme cutbacks on We should not expect professional entertainers, and we should not expect many in the show bands. They are really continuing to look at cutting back even further in entertainment - the staff admitted it, they notice it, we do, and there's nothing that can be done since it comes straight from corporate. With them admitting that and that it will get worse, and with it affecting the cruise experience, we will not consider Carnival until they realize that we realize and are upset with the product and cutbacks and fix their mistakes. We just looked at Royal Caribbean cruise compasses, and they still have many bands throughout ships and entertainment every night. That alone makes it worth cruising with them, even if it is a little higher in price.
The cutbacks are noticed on other cruiselines as well, we came off the Constellation a month ago and their entertainment was really worse, in theater and on the decks.
Royal Caribbean may have bands still, maybe they wont have it in the future.
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I agree, the musicians, while maybe not adding directly to the bottom line, do enhance the on-board experience. I can't name specifics, but on our first several cruises in 2002-2006 there seemed to be a "no expense spared" approach to making guests happy.

After a 4 year hiatus from cruising, we went again in November, and there did seem to be a different atmosphere. My biggest surprise: No comment cards at the end of the cruise! On ALL our previous cruises we had comment cards on our beds the last night, and the Cruise Director made a big deal of asking everyone to fill them out. We always did, and my wife even won the $100 drawing on debark morning once. No cards, and no $100 drawing on the last cruise, leading me to suspect that Carnival doesn't really care what the guests think.

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We just got back from the Conquest last week, and it was the same way. I was really disappointed in the entertainment. They have a new show one night and would be a repeat the next. Other than that the cruise was great. Loved the islands, especially Grand Cayman. The girls fell into that void age group this year 18-22 and they had a lack of things to do. The clubs had adults and they felt uncomfortable there. It was the old 70's and 80's music. They went to the shows, but they had a lot of repeats. We did not have the dance parties on deck like we use to. Just a different cruise than what we were use to, but had a great time.
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The CD IS part of the entertainment staff on the ship. They don't choose the shows or staff levels. There is only so much entertainment budget and it all has to fit. Income from bingo and art auctions only helps a little to offset the entertainment costs.

On the cruise comment cards, they were replaced with an email program, but with Carnival's incredibly inept IT folks, they have never seemed to have gotten the bugs out.
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this is a very interesting thread to follow..and may explain an increasing comment that I have overheard on the full charter smooth jazz cruises the past few years. Most jazz cruisers have elected to only do the music cruises (in spite of the premium surcharge) rather then go back to a non theme (normal) cruise..due to the overall cruise experience of which the entertainment and other onboard experiences are key..it's the same cabin, the same food, the same staff,with rare exception the same port rotation as a non theme cruise, but yet so different...

I have not taken a "normal" cruise since 2003 ( European River Cruise on Peter Deilman to the South of France, Maine Windjammer weekend cruise and 5 full charter smooth jazz cruises)..my BF 75 year old Mom, who's first cruise, was with me on a full charter smooth jazz cruise, went on her 2nd cruise with her senior citizens group, on a 'normal' cruise and reported back she was bored out of her mind

I think it goes back to one of our "core topics'..why does one cruise..is it for total relaxation (could care less about the evening entertainment, the less to do the better) or more for adventure/entertainment, where the ship becomes the destination as opposed to the islands (repeat cruisers who have been to the same islands more then twice will probably fall into the latter category)..the bigger the ship (i.e. OAS), the more diverse guests, the more diverse activities must be offered

someone mention if they raise the cruise cost by $20 to cover for better entertainment , they would pay it..cruise lines are way ahead of you, the track record of the sold out one year in advance full charter music theme cruises have told them guest will pay a steep mark up above rack rates for just that ..even the theme cruises that are not full charter (i.e. the motorcycle theme cruises) that share the ship are a huge hit and growing

i suspect, first time cruisers would not notice that entertainment has been cut back and probably really enjoy it..more then one cruise is a different story
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I agree, the musicians, while maybe not adding directly to the bottom line, do enhance the on-board experience. I can't name specifics, but on our first several cruises in 2002-2006 there seemed to be a "no expense spared" approach to making guests happy.

After a 4 year hiatus from cruising, we went again in November, and there did seem to be a different atmosphere. My biggest surprise: No comment cards at the end of the cruise! On ALL our previous cruises we had comment cards on our beds the last night, and the Cruise Director made a big deal of asking everyone to fill them out. We always did, and my wife even won the $100 drawing on debark morning once. No cards, and no $100 drawing on the last cruise, leading me to suspect that Carnival doesn't really care what the guests think.

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After a 4 year hiatus from cruising it is hard to see why you would not expect a change of some kind, good or bad. Getting the same thing after 4 years would be reason to complain as well.

They have gone to emailing each cabin a "comment card" evaluation email. You can share your thoughts on any aspect of your experience, not just the limited options on the card they left in the cabin.

There was a problem with some pax not getting the email but it seems the issue was with folks who had visited carnival.com and at some point in the proces had a check box that "opted out" of emails. I suspect many felt this applied to "marketing" emails but it seems it affected the new comment card process too.

They have realized this glitch and are arranging for each cabin that has an email on record at booking/sailing to get the email. One per cabin.

What had been happening was that pax felt that the CD's were pushing the comments to be positive giving the impression that crew pay would be affected if they had anything less that "exceeded expectations."
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Funny thing with this OP and thread subject in a few forums here.....

Cruiser9800 appears to be the same as John970 and sportsstar90. Posts at CC are identical.
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Sounds as if this could be an issue with that one ship.
Last April I sailed on the Splendor and the entertainment rocked.
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Cruiser9800 appears to be the same as John970 and sportsstar90. Posts at CC are identical.
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Yes, those other two names are my name and another family member's name on CC. I combined our two posts that we each wrote about our Miracle cruise on CC and made it into one detailed review and summary here on cruisemates. I have all of the Fun Times, so please feel free to ask any questions or to ask about any details. I am more than glad to assist.
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My wife and I cruised on the Carnival Elation just over a month ago. That was her ninth and my seventh Carnival cruise in the last five years. We enjoyed everything about our Elation cruise EXCEPT the entertainment.

The two production shows in the main theater were hyped all week as being "new shows". The first one was acceptable with the notable exception of an extremely annoying lighting routine. During most of the first ten minutes of the show the stage lights were trained directly into the eyes of the audience making the experience somewhere between annoying and painful. When we took our complaints to the lighting engineer he told us that the entire show was computerized and he could not change any aspect of the lighting.

The second "all new" show was just awful. The music was bad; the choreography was bad; and the lighting was terrible. We actually left the theater about half way through the show. We really hope that this is just a blip and not a trend.
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We sailed the Miracle on the Dec 5th cruise to the Southern Caribbean and also noticed the lack of bands aboard the ship. We enjoyed the Calypso band and there was a soloist who sung at the casino bar several nights and of course the band that plays for the Shows. Ticket to Ride was an extremely good production and Generations was good too. The juggler and ventriloquist weren't too entertaining in my opinion.

We enjoyed all the comedians except Phat Katt, who we had seen on a previous cruise and didn't think too much of his act back then. We loved the Mad Hatter comedy club and everyone we talked to who went to the late night Inabitions (sic), show said it was a hoot.

I would suggest that they make some changes to the newly wed game, like new questions. I was also disappointed with the singing in the MDR as we were finished with dessert and out the door most nights before the singing and dancing started. We asked the waiter about this and he said the Maitre'd
wanted it to start later to include more of the anytime eaters.

All in all we really enjoyed the cruise. We weren't too impressed with the CD, Malcolm, but in reality we saw more of Sparkles then him anyway and Sparkles was a cool gal.
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My most recent cruise was Dream May 2010. We had a great time and as usual had a hard time deciding which activities we were going to attend. The dinner shows were all good. I wouldnt say they ALL were great but they were at minimum "good". They had an extra attraction/dance group called Fun Force that was very entertaining and when they had a audience participation in the main atrium lobby one night it was packed and very much fun to watch how the passengers followed them in their dance moves. They also had parts in one or two of the dinner shows. The comedian shows that go on for 4 nights of the cruise was fantastic with shows going on at various times..like 3show s a night. All the comedians were great...the only one that we really didnt care to listen to was the host "Fun Dude". Maybe things have really changed since May but we hope not. Will find out as of next Monday as we are to be on Elation then. Will report back after we return home!
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Can't wait to see your report.

We are doing a B2B on the Dream in Oct and since it is our 20 year anniversary, I decided to upgrade to a suite. Hope we won't be disappointed.

We are also sailing on the Spirit, next month.
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@Gail4Cruisng - oh yes, I HATED fun dude. He was terrible!

Entertainment is so subjective, you will never please everyone. You aren't guaranteed to love a comedian at sea, any more than you are guaranteed to love one on land. I watch a lot of comedy central and don't always find the comedians funny, but someone thinks they are good enough to put on TV.


Please don't get rid of the magicians!!!!!!! You have to remember that these guys are not supposed to be David Copperfield. IMHO, they are there for the young kids. And you know what? My kids (3 and 4) still talk about Aron the Magician from the DREAM.

As for the guys who play on deck .... not my cup of tea ... I'm just as happy with music piped in over the stereo.
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@Gail4Cruisng - oh yes, I HATED fun dude. He was terrible!

Entertainment is so subjective, you will never please everyone. You aren't guaranteed to love a comedian at sea, any more than you are guaranteed to love one on land. I watch a lot of comedy central and don't always find the comedians funny, but someone thinks they are good enough to put on TV.


Please don't get rid of the magicians!!!!!!! You have to remember that these guys are not supposed to be David Copperfield. IMHO, they are there for the young kids. And you know what? My kids (3 and 4) still talk about Aron the Magician from the DREAM.

As for the guys who play on deck .... not my cup of tea ... I'm just as happy with music piped in over the stereo.
I have seen some outstanding magic shows on cruise ships, most recently on the Triumph in Sep.09.
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Was the comment about magic shows? If so, yes I have seen great shows on board too. My comment was in relation to guys that roam around the dining room doing simple table-side card/scarf/coin magic tricks.
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With all these entertainment cut-backs, does anyone think is will have a trickel down effect on the other lines?
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Barryn514...I am so jealous...b2b on the Dream! We had one of the Cove balconies and we loved it! On my first Dream cruise had one of the end cabins on Lido (10205 if i am remembering correctly)....was nice to just walk down the hall and be on Lido. We most likely will book again for May and most likely will be either Dream or Triumph we choose. Will make sure I get back on after i return from Elation...hope it works out really well..this is the ship that is currently in the port that is the shortest drive for us.
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