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colorcrazie September 27th, 2011 03:50 PM

WOW! He went through a window?!? And survived? That was one crazy, but lucky fellow.
Thanks for the info, however wierd it seems to me.:shock:

Trip September 27th, 2011 03:53 PM

Marty, it wasn't a cabin window, it was a window "of sorts" on an upper deck, if memory matter how, he was a fool for sure..he lucked out!

cherylroy September 27th, 2011 07:49 PM

Not suicide - but I have always told my family to save funeral expenses. Do what I want - and that is to be cremated and throw me over the balcony --- dust that is. Into the deep blue sea I will be happy (when the good Lord wants to take me that is). ;)

Trip September 27th, 2011 07:55 PM

Every balcony on your route to the sea, would be sprinkled with a bit of you! Anyone sitting and enjoying the view, will, with the wind, get a surprise....!

Don't think it would be allowed on any line...Maybe a yacht somewhere, many, many, years from now:)

cherylroy September 27th, 2011 08:22 PM

OH I know! But would be nice ;);)

Snoozeman September 28th, 2011 10:36 AM

Actually it can be done from a cruise ship. Not over the side from your own balcony, but a small formal service and ashed distributed from the aft. More common than you know.

colorcrazie September 28th, 2011 02:50 PM

Living very close to the Gulf of Mexico, there is a local company that has permission from EPA, etc. to distribute ashes at sea. A small ship, not cruise size, but they do a memorial service at sea. Very expensive, I've been told. Our family tradition is to donate our bodies to science, as a last opportunity to give back to the world. But, if it weren't for that, I would definitely like to be sprinkled on the water!

cherylroy September 29th, 2011 09:51 PM

I totally agree - being in the medical field - donate your body to science!!! Wouldn't pay for memorial at sea -- but one ash at a time you can throw...(just kidding). I did do something YEARS ago that probably shouldn't have been done. My dad died and the only state he had not been was alaska. My husband and I were taking our 25th anniversary cruise to alaska (2 years planning) and I wanted to cancel because of his death (he died like 6 or 7 weeks before we left). My kids insisted we go, so we did and had a good time (have since been back to find out what I missed). It was a wonderful cruise as it was my healing - not the party carribbean style of cruising if you know what I mean. Anyway - going down Alaska waters, I brought a hat of dads, kissed it and threw it over (sorry). He now has been to every state. As far as his ashes - they are in a beautiful marble urn - watching over us in my living room. I know TMI! And he is the first thing I take when we evacuate for a hurricane!!!

Manny21 October 4th, 2011 10:38 PM

It was sad, mostly because I was there, this was my first time being on a cruise and just leaving Cozumel this guy jumps off the ship with so many people seeing him jump and fall like in a canon style and some saw him floating but by the time the ship crew knew they threw out the Distress Beacon late like 6 minutes late the guy jumped by the Old PIER in Cozumel where Conquest use to docked but Crew and some securities didn't believe some of the passengers who literally saw the jump fall in front of there faces! Some ladies crying and begging the security and crew to take the ship more back because they were looking at the wrong place! Man the cruise was fun but that tragedy killed our fun most of people jumped out and didn't eat that night it was bad and sad! And the most sad i have that guy on a video i have i saw a picture of him on a news channel and i saw the video it was HIM! And he was having fun! Either he was drunk or the wife did something to cause him to jump!

And like i mentioned i was on the Carnival Conquest when it happened!

Trip October 4th, 2011 11:03 PM

Manny, thanks for posting,and your insight into this tragedy. Honestly, I cannot imagine witnessing someone going overboard:( While on the Magic, we had an overboard call, but, thankfully, the man was found in the casino!!

cherylroy October 4th, 2011 11:18 PM

Manny - I can't even imagine what you went through. I'm so sorry your vacation ended up in such a senseless tragedy. My prayers to you and your family as well as the jumper and his family.

david30101 October 5th, 2011 07:22 AM

I cant see how they can not allow you to spread ashes over the side.. Just pack the "ern" in your checked luggage in a regular type container, etc that dosnt raise suspision. Less chance of it being found instead of you carrying it through security. Or does the drug dogs smell for dead ashes as well? Once onboard, Just go up on deck at 3am when nobody is around and dump over the side. I walk the decks late at night, so late, I see all the night shift cleaning going on, usually after 3-4 in morning. Most people are asleep by then.

Paul Motter October 5th, 2011 12:00 PM

Manny - you confirmed one thing I have written about people who go "missing" at sea - especially young adults. The young man you witnessed jumped while he was still is sight of the pier. In other words, he probably thought he was going to make it ashore.

I can't read minds, but having thought a lot about this topic (as I have to write articles about these things) I have come to the conclusion that some people, most likely strong young adults, jump from the ship thinking they are definitely going to survive.

This is a BIG mistake.

I will admit a couple of things here. When I worked on cruise ships I had that conversation with other staff members. I said I thought I could jump from our ship and survive. They completely disagreed with me, but I remember being very confident in the idea.

Secondly - just a few years ago I was on a very small expedition ship, in Norway, and I was talking to friends. For an inexplicable reason, one guy started the motion to get up and sit atop the railing. He was just absorbed in conversation, and it was there so he went to sit down. It didn't even occur to him for split second that was a bad idea. Of course, we stopped him before he got up there. But he said , "You know, I totally know better, but I just wasn't thinking about that..."

I believe some people do "fall" from cruise ships - but only because they do stupid things like sit on the railing. I personally believe this is how the Connecticut honeymooner case (George Allen Smith) happened. he was alone on his balcony, drunk as a skunk, and he just got up on the railing to smoke a cigarette and fell over. The did find a chair in the corner of the balcony.

Manny21 October 7th, 2011 12:28 PM

The thing is he was a 39 year old man

Paul Motter October 7th, 2011 12:50 PM

Yes, I know he was 39. I consider that young.

Haoie October 16th, 2011 07:08 PM

Probably the worst way to avoid both a bar tab and a hangover.

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