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Old August 13th, 2002, 12:09 PM
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Those of you who got emails "Renaissance Cruises is back" should take note that this is a travel agency, Online Vacation Center. They bought the Renaissance Cruises name in bankruptcy court . There are no ships of any kind in the new "Renaissance Cruises." I understand that the president of the travel agency is Ed Rudner, ex CEO of the real Renaissance Cruises who was booted out by board members of the board.

In my opinion, a travel agency which pretends to be a cruise line is pretty sleazy.
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Old August 13th, 2002, 12:55 PM
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Thanks for the info Anne.

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Old August 13th, 2002, 01:11 PM
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Anne.. what a SHAME! I got the e-mails and was hoping that Ren was making a rebirth (though I didn't know what they were going to use for ships). Now that it appears to be a travel agency looking for a hook and using Ren's old e-mail address book I'm VERY disappointed.

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Old August 13th, 2002, 01:36 PM
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It's no surprise, Kuki. What is funny, in a sense, is that Rudner, "Mr. Anti-Travel Agent" himself, owns the very travel agency in question. It gives an interesting picture of what he's all about.
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For what it's worth, here is the "real" Reniassance website

<http://renaissancecruises.com/>

I read on another board (yep, I do read the others sometimes) that a "researcher" called Rudner's office and was told it it was a "hoax." At least, that's what I think I remember. Don't hold me to the wall on it and I'm not going to wade back through oceans of meaningless natter to find it.

So, is Rudner or is Rudner not part of this lash-up? Looks like a job for SuperNorm to me !!!

What makes me VERY curious is just how so many of our e-mail addresses were "given" to these slimeballs ??? (Is "slimeball" an appropriate term here?) In my curious reading, I noted that people who say they have sailed on Ren before DID NOT get the e-mail so maybe it's NOT the "official" Ren list ???

As I mentioned to Mike M in a previous note, the reason for that little "fill in the blanks" screen is probably so the information given can be ported straight into a database. It's cheesy programming at best.

I think I also mentioned that I could have purchased the name "RenaissanceCruises" with two or three different extensions just by sending the purveryor a few bucks.

The thing to remember is that they are not OFFERING anything, nor do they seem to have anything to offer. All they seem to want to do is collect personal data.

I keep wondering why I, who am not a travel agent and have never been on a Ren cruise, would be on their "hit list" ???

For whomever it was that speculated that "cc" was a code for Turks and Caicos, I checked that. Turks and Caicos is "tc".

I am tres curious to see what will end up in Mike's mailbox !!!



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Old August 13th, 2002, 07:42 PM
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Hi Anne,
I've been getting those e-mails as well, thanks for the expanation. It totally amazes me what people will do??

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Old August 13th, 2002, 08:45 PM
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Scam is right, wish this agency would be regulated and lose any license or affiliate with the cruise industry. Gives a bad name to all those TA's that go out of their way for the customer.

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I got a couple of those e-mails and have never sailed on a Renaissance ship. Glad I deleted them and did not give out any info.
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Old August 14th, 2002, 10:35 AM
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Everyone should go back and read, if they haven't, Kuki's feature on "Bad Agents."

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What is very interesting is that I HAVE cruised on Ren and I did not receive an e-mail from this Travel Agency with this 'mis-information'! I did check out the 'new' website and saw what they were asking and thought, "Yeah right, no way". I wonder if anyone has contacted the Florida Attorney Generals Office on this 'scam' yet? Could be very interesting! <G>
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What is real weird is that my mom got an e-mail from Rennisance. As far as I know, she never even heard of them before. I have surfed from her computer, but I have no clue how Rennisance could have gotten her e-mail address. I have not got the e-mails myself. Anne, you are right. This whole thing smells like my socks on laundry day.

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